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03-26-21, 11:28 PM
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No, inanimate objects o do not kill - people do
Why does the U.S. have so many mass killings?
The answer is clear.
It's the guns.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/07/w...gtype=Homepage
The answer is clear.
It's the guns.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/07/w...gtype=Homepage
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73rx313b (03-27-21)
03-28-21, 09:16 AM
I agree, guns do not kill people , people kill people
but its not the sane people that commit these mass shootings, its crazy people.
and they are doing it with guns.
and that is a problem. No one can say that having so many mass shootings is not a problem.
so, the problem is that crazy people kill people with guns.
and since with have laws that separate drunk people from their cars
we should have laws that separate crazy people from their guns.
but since we need to protect the 2nd amendment we need to be careful about who to separate from their guns
so what we need are common sense back ground checks ( and other common sense laws ) that prevent crazy people from getting guns
if we don't act responsibly we will eventually lose the 2nd amendment.
now, can anyone tell me why my trailing ignition if firing 90 degrees out of phase?
I'm running an MSD box for my leading ignition, and stock set up for my trailing.
no matter how I stab the dizzy the trailing is of by 90 degrees, I can tell cause I can see the marks at the three oclock position, about 90 degrees after tdc.
I have verified my main pull position and checked the position of all the spark plug wires and I am stumped.
but its not the sane people that commit these mass shootings, its crazy people.
and they are doing it with guns.
and that is a problem. No one can say that having so many mass shootings is not a problem.
so, the problem is that crazy people kill people with guns.
and since with have laws that separate drunk people from their cars
we should have laws that separate crazy people from their guns.
but since we need to protect the 2nd amendment we need to be careful about who to separate from their guns
so what we need are common sense back ground checks ( and other common sense laws ) that prevent crazy people from getting guns
if we don't act responsibly we will eventually lose the 2nd amendment.
now, can anyone tell me why my trailing ignition if firing 90 degrees out of phase?
I'm running an MSD box for my leading ignition, and stock set up for my trailing.
no matter how I stab the dizzy the trailing is of by 90 degrees, I can tell cause I can see the marks at the three oclock position, about 90 degrees after tdc.
I have verified my main pull position and checked the position of all the spark plug wires and I am stumped.
03-28-21, 07:30 PM
Well said Robert, we need to do something about the guns and the crazies.
On the ignition, I think the problem is with the MSD ignition.
MSD is an American product, it doesn't belong in an SA.
The Rotary Gods would not approve.
I think they are yanking your crank.
Wankeling your Wankel, so to speak.
On the ignition, I think the problem is with the MSD ignition.
MSD is an American product, it doesn't belong in an SA.
The Rotary Gods would not approve.
I think they are yanking your crank.
Wankeling your Wankel, so to speak.
03-28-21, 07:52 PM
Well said Robert, we need to do something about the guns and the crazies.
On the ignition, I think the problem is with the MSD ignition.
MSD is an American product, it doesn't belong in an SA.
The Rotary Gods would not approve.
I think they are yanking your crank.
Wankeling your Wankel, so to speak.
On the ignition, I think the problem is with the MSD ignition.
MSD is an American product, it doesn't belong in an SA.
The Rotary Gods would not approve.
I think they are yanking your crank.
Wankeling your Wankel, so to speak.
I agree... MSD just keeps dropping the ball with their ignition boxes IMPO. If you are after hot spark try out Crane; same multiple fire, but more reliability. Not to mention you can get NASCAR take off units for $150 shipped.
How many of the wires did you cut to setup your box? Did you set it up as a 4cyl or a 6? That might account for the delay in fire.
03-28-21, 09:58 PM
Here's Crane's contact information:
Memphis, Tennessee 38118
901-795-2400
Email Us
They are Democrats, so they must be high quality.
CONTACT INFO
3406 Democrat RoadMemphis, Tennessee 38118
901-795-2400
Email Us
They are Democrats, so they must be high quality.
03-28-21, 10:08 PM
Here's Crane's contact information:
Memphis, Tennessee 38118
901-795-2400
Email Us
They are Democrats, so they must be high quality.
CONTACT INFO
3406 Democrat RoadMemphis, Tennessee 38118
901-795-2400
Email Us
They are Democrats, so they must be high quality.
Ray, I think that's Comp cams website...
Crane HI-6RL Ignition Box NASCAR, Drag Race | eBay
This is what you guys should be after. NASCAR take offs. They run them one time and toss em. Crane doesn't have the terrible rep that MSD has acquired. I just wish I'd gone this route before buying my MSD al-6.
But you'd better get it now before the EPA shuts down racing for good.
03-29-21, 06:54 AM
I found my problem and it was with the MSD ignition, not a system failure, but user error.
I had rewired my engine compartment, including all my ignition circuits and turns out the MSD trigger circuit has a polarity.
I had the purple and greens wires reversed causing it to go wacky, found it last night.
good info about the other systems though, if this one bites the dust I will go that way.
I also installed new fans, new fan shroud, new fan controller, new alternator, new charging system wiring and finally got rid of the remnants
of all the ballast resistor wiring that was still lingering in my wiring loom. Lots of work, but it all works a lot better.
For the first time ever I can turn everything on and even at idle the systems holds a solid 14.2 volts. Never had that before.
I had rewired my engine compartment, including all my ignition circuits and turns out the MSD trigger circuit has a polarity.
I had the purple and greens wires reversed causing it to go wacky, found it last night.
good info about the other systems though, if this one bites the dust I will go that way.
I also installed new fans, new fan shroud, new fan controller, new alternator, new charging system wiring and finally got rid of the remnants
of all the ballast resistor wiring that was still lingering in my wiring loom. Lots of work, but it all works a lot better.
For the first time ever I can turn everything on and even at idle the systems holds a solid 14.2 volts. Never had that before.
Last edited by rwatson5651; 03-29-21 at 07:00 AM.
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t_g_farrell (04-01-21)
03-29-21, 08:05 AM
I found my problem and it was with the MSD ignition, not a system failure, but user error.
I had rewired my engine compartment, including all my ignition circuits and turns out the MSD trigger circuit has a polarity.
I had the purple and greens wires reversed causing it to go wacky, found it last night.
good info about the other systems though, if this one bites the dust I will go that way.
I also installed new fans, new fan shroud, new fan controller, new alternator, new charging system wiring and finally got rid of the remnants
of all the ballast resistor wiring that was still lingering in my wiring loom. Lots of work, but it all works a lot better.
For the first time ever I can turn everything on and even at idle the systems holds a solid 14.2 volts. Never had that before.
I had rewired my engine compartment, including all my ignition circuits and turns out the MSD trigger circuit has a polarity.
I had the purple and greens wires reversed causing it to go wacky, found it last night.
good info about the other systems though, if this one bites the dust I will go that way.
I also installed new fans, new fan shroud, new fan controller, new alternator, new charging system wiring and finally got rid of the remnants
of all the ballast resistor wiring that was still lingering in my wiring loom. Lots of work, but it all works a lot better.
For the first time ever I can turn everything on and even at idle the systems holds a solid 14.2 volts. Never had that before.
03-29-21, 01:54 PM
Ill take some tonight.
What happened to the widebody got me thinking about my sub-standard wiring and how bad it would be to not heed that warning.
so I went through and revised all the crappy wiring I had stacked on top of other crappy wiring to help avoid a tragedy.
it looks nicer as well.
What happened to the widebody got me thinking about my sub-standard wiring and how bad it would be to not heed that warning.
so I went through and revised all the crappy wiring I had stacked on top of other crappy wiring to help avoid a tragedy.
it looks nicer as well.
Last edited by rwatson5651; 03-29-21 at 01:58 PM.
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Qingdao (03-29-21)
03-29-21, 07:12 PM
Yeah, I got fear of wiring fires too... Few years ago I had a car fire (100% stock). It was just a random grounding in the alternator, but the designers of the car saw fit not to put a main fuse between the battery and the alternator. So up in smoke it went. Now everything gets fuse blocks, and every car has a 10mm spanner near the battery terminals just in case. Also, all my cars have fire extinguishers.
03-30-21, 07:54 AM
Yeah, I got fear of wiring fires too... Few years ago I had a car fire (100% stock). It was just a random grounding in the alternator, but the designers of the car saw fit not to put a main fuse between the battery and the alternator. So up in smoke it went. Now everything gets fuse blocks, and every car has a 10mm spanner near the battery terminals just in case. Also, all my cars have fire extinguishers.
03-30-21, 05:02 PM
hehe... my battery is in my frunk; so the 10 mm wrench is in with the spare tire and tool kit.
On the 7 I have a ton of random tools I might need in the convenient little storage bins behind the seat.
04-01-21, 02:43 PM
Waffles - hmmm good
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Robert good to hear you got that fixed. After your call it kept me up at night thinking about it. I kind of think I mentioned something about connections being backwards but didn't suspect the MSD.
I think I need to do the same, I got a bunch of wires running around for ignition and fan stuff that I need to cleanup. You inspired me. Now post those pics!
I think I need to do the same, I got a bunch of wires running around for ignition and fan stuff that I need to cleanup. You inspired me. Now post those pics!
04-03-21, 12:54 PM
Looks like a Wankel powered lap top.
How's the rest of the car coming? Bodywork and paint all back to pristine condition?
We hope to see it soon!
How's the rest of the car coming? Bodywork and paint all back to pristine condition?
We hope to see it soon!
04-03-21, 01:57 PM
04-04-21, 09:26 PM
I've forgotten... Thats why I'm going; to see some real engines.
I've been driving around my neighborhood on expired tags for months now*, and I haven't even popped open the hood.
*trying to keep that nikki nice and clean.
04-07-21, 07:33 PM
James, you're fixing to get arrested*.
But it's good to know you're keeping your Nikki nice and clean.
Hope to see some of you guys at OGTA/DGRR 2021.
But it's good to know you're keeping your Nikki nice and clean.
Hope to see some of you guys at OGTA/DGRR 2021.
