Ok, Had to start another thread since the other said nothing to do in the heading about tuning... Still looking to do this the last weekend of June or 1st-2nd weekend of July. I am waiting to here back from Brian on all details. I have had several interested but most like myself are still putting there car together. I need some cars that will be ready... So list away.... And give me what date is best for you and if you want dyno..

1. Mike (sk8world) dyno time and any date is going to be fine with me.
2. Steve Stover No dyno time ---any date
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Mike, even if I could get my car together by end of June, I still would need a break-in period, so I don't think I'll be ready.

 

just drive like a maniac, don!!!! we need a new and improved TUNED don!!!!

 

This one is still up in the air but perhaps July time wouuld be best. I'm tenatively scheduled for two trips after this one here in CO up to WI as well as NC so we'll have tto see how the scheduling part works out.

B

 

July is fine with me... Lets set a date so DON can get in on this..... Hell maybe Phil will get his done also... So let me know if you want July 8th or 15th???

Nothing like tuning in 98 degree weather! I guess we could try to tune one or 2 early in the morning and 1-2 at night if the heat is bad..

 

LOL! I'm still waiting on parts..

We'll see.. I was going to try to tune it myself when its done.

 

My initial date to start the new engine install is July 15th (if Mother Nature cooperates) and have everything up and running sometime that following week. So if it's put off till the end of July, I'll more than likely be ready.

 

Thought you were going to up the date? I can wait to late July but hate to if your car will not be ready. It always takes longer then we plan! just let me know. If you feel pretty ertain you will be ready we will wait, atleast I can and I am sure Steve Stover will also. mike

 

I did, but my funds won't allow me to purchase the engine till end of June/first of July, so I'm pretty much back to my original schedule. I would really hate to detain everyone and then not be ready by the tune date. I started disassembling last weekend and I plan to do more this weekend and each afternoon I have free time.

 

I have one guy in TN who sounds in on the tuning also. So between me, Steve Stover and him thats enough to bring Brian in (3). I have no problem setting up the date for July 22nd to give you a chance but at least we would not have to rely on your car if things dont come together....

So if you feel you will be ready by July 22nd. We can set it up for then. (10 weeks away ugh) I hope to get Brian here on the 21st.

I think Brian does not like to tune more tha 3-4 cars a day so if more guys come on board then I will set them up on either the 21st or the 22nd. Dyno time will be extra and I can set that up for te 22nd.

 

My best friend's wedding is sometime in July -- I just remembered it so let me make sure I can get some definite dates.

B

 

Also anyone who is interested in just hanging out let me know. We could set up a Friday night dinner? drag strip?.... Saturday a lunch on Mont Sano? cruise? Maybe we will luck out and the autocross be the same weekend....

 

up to the top... Come on guys anyone else in?

Don, you making progress on your car?

I got in my new fuel parts today! Just waiting on the other pump and gaskets and the project begins!!!

 

I'm slowly making progress. I started taking the engine apart, installed my modified clock spring for my Efini steering wheel, and started taking my interior out to install the new stereo. More to come tomorrow if it doesn't rain.

 

I would like to come and hang. So am I'm understanding that I don't have enough mods done to warrant a tune?? I know Don said that I didn't have enough to warrant a PFC (even though I'm still gonna buy one) but does that also mean there's no need for me to tune?

Brad

 

Yes, you could buy a PFC, but with your limited number of mods at the present time, that's $$ that could be used elsewhere (unless you have unlimited funds). As far as the tune, sure it can be tuned, but do you need a tune... no. The base map in the PFC is sufficient to handle most bolt-on mods.

 

I won't say that his current mods dont warrant the purchase of a PFC, it may not be needed right now, but once he starts to really mod his car it will be much safer with the PFC already installed.

 

I agree with Don to a point... First, buy a PFC no matter what. You will need it sooner or later.. Like Don said the base map will be safer than running your stock ecu with bolt ons.. BUT>>>>
If you think about it running a pre set PFC its no differant than running a piggy back unit or a chipped ecu if its not tuned for YOUR car. I dont mean a 3rd gen rx7 but your car sitting in your garage.
Yes, I do agree its not really needed for the mods he has but it can make his car more reliable power. Over Kill? Probably! But if it were me I would take advantage of the tunning date and pick up a few more parts like upgraded fuel pump, IC, intake not sure if you have a mid-pipe. Maybe a boost control. Then have Brian tune it for 13-14 psi. Should make 325rwhp+/-. You have to remember if you wait to add this later then you have to wait for another tunning date.


Just my 2 cents....

 

I plan on adding enough mods to put my FD in the 340-350rwhp range. I don't plan on going any higher as I've been told that will be about max for the stock turbos. Once (or if) my motor pops or the turbos go kaput, I'll probably be doing a LS1 swap. So I will ride my FD out with around 350rwhp and just be happy with until it's LS1 time.

Mike, I have HKS Super Megaflow Intake. I do not have a midpipe or even a downpipe, but I plan on purchasing a DP from Phil sometime this week or next week when I can meet up with him. I also plan on purchasing a Walbro pump and bigger injectors. Maybe a highfow cat...I'll be staying away from a midpipe. I'll also be looking for a Greddy SMIC.

Anyway, maybe I can get all this done by July. My two little boys are taking up a lot of extra cash as to be expected. Decorating bedrooms, backyard toys, etc. Never stops, but I love it. Just let me know a date.

Brad

 

Brad, That sounds very good. Believe me I know what you mean about taking up money!!! I am almost done (week to week and half ) on my new house. Twins are almost 4 and wife wants all new furniture for the house.. And new frig because it does not match her new apliances!!! Mean while I am trying to finsh up my car and justify the purchases!!!!

 

except about the LS-1 part.....

 

Well, I'm not 100% on the LS1. I'm about 75/25. 75% leaning toward the LS1 and 25% leaning toward a big single. I've discussed this over dinner with the B'ham guys that Saturday night we all met at the Korea House on Jordan Lane (wish you could've been there). After a lite discussion on the topic I have decided that I would do a lot more research before making a solid decision. I love the idea of a big turbo with about 400-420rwhp but I love the driveability and reliability of the LS1.

And yes, I know that a rotary motor can be very reliable if maintained properly. The problem I see is that even if I go with a big single turbo that eventually I'll end up dropping an LS1 in because I feel that there will still be issues with proper tuning of a single turbo to keep a rotary motor reliable. But hey, I'm still a noob and there's a lot I have to learn. I may end up with a 3 rotor when it's all said and done

Brad

 

Brad,

I know LS1 motors are known to be reliable, but any motor you start modding will lose its reliablility. Unless you are going to put LS1 and leave it pretty much stock and drive it daily. But I wouldnt put in an LS1 just to be more reliable. I've also thought about this and I think its pretty unique. I never thought that its a bad idea, Just can't seem to spend that much money and learn something all over to save on gas and go NA. And if you did go turbo charged LS1, you are talking about big money.. and only option for intercooler will be front mount... And we all know what kind of issue we have with FMIC.. lol!

I think Leo did the right thing... If you were to go LS1, go buy a used Z06. ITs not much more than doing the swap and its all done up from the factory. I guess you might also enjoy the process more than the out come, but I think putting one in 93 FD vs more modern 02 Z06, I would prefer 02.. Of course its not an RX7 but hey, its still consider sacrilegious to put piston in rx7 by most hard core rotary owners...

 

Phil, I agree.. The 02 style vets look very nice and before I did a engine swap "and hope there was some resale value" I would just sale the FD and buy a Z06. Hell I will admit it, I thought about it before!! I have also been thinking about a late 90's early 00 GTS "Viper" ....
But for now I am going to keep the FD and see how things go..


Brad, SO should I count you in on the tuning? If Don gets done then that will be 5 cars ready!!

Still waiting on a date from Brian!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Phil,

That's pretty much why I'm not 100% on the LS1. But, I have to be honest and say that I did not buy an RX7 because of the rotary motor, I bought it because of the looks, and power-to-weight ratio. If Mazda would've put a turbo inline-6 in these cars instead of a rotary (with the same power and/or power potential of course) then I would've still bought an RX7.

Like you know, I was a Mustang guy for years...not a Ford guy, a Mustang guy. I was a big fan of the foxbody. I built 2 GTs and after I was done I probably could've bought 2 Z06s for what it cost to build the GTs. I didn't build them because of the 302 motor, I did it because of the foxbody. Anyway, my point is that I'm in love with the RX7 body, interior and bodyweight...not the motor. However, working on rotaries is something totally new to me and I enjoy learning, so at the moment I am satisfied with what the FD has to offer. Once and if my rotary motor detonates then I have to say that I'll be pretty tempted to do a LS1 or maybe even a 302 swap since I know what to do with them (somewhat). I'll just have to see how comfortable I am with being able to fully work on a single turbo setup myself when it comes the time to make that decision.

I really do appreciate everyone's input. I hope you continue to give me advice and guidance. If I know I have guys around me that know what they're doing with rotary motors then I might just go with a single turbo. Hopefully though, I am far from the time in having to make that decision.

Thanks again,
Brad