SBG Teaser: 'Smart Cooler' On-Board Thermostat-on-Cooler Oil Cooler Kit
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SBG Teaser: 'Smart Cooler' On-Board Thermostat-on-Cooler Oil Cooler Kit
SakeBomb Garage is excited to introduce the long-awaited SakeBomb Garage "Smart Cooler" cooling systems for the FD RX7! Utilizing our patent-pending 'Smart Cooler' on-board thermostat, allows seamless integration with factory hard lines, makes for an OEM+ installation and much less hassle than our original 'Race' Oil Cooler Kits with a single H pattern thermostat that required running all new soft lines. The SBG 'Smart Cooler' systems are expandable to dual core setups, and in this configuration (with two independent thermostats) reduces temperature fluctuation seen in a large single thermostat system, as oil can be bypassed back to the motor if the first oil cooler was able to cool sufficiently, or open to pass oil through the second cooler under high load situations!
- Available Oil Cooler Cores
- Setrab Cores (19 or 25 row)
- Kraken Performance Cores (19 or 25 row)
- Single and Dual Cooler Versions Available - Expandable Later if Needed
- Nylon Lines included for All Versions
- Patent Pending Billet Machined 6061 Smart Cooler Assemblies with Viton O-Ring Seals (will fit many aftermarket coolers)
- 200* Integrated Thermostat - Great for Track or Street Use Cases
- Smart Coolers Allow for Lower Total Oil Temperature Fluctuation, and Easy Integration
- Smart Coolers Can be Set Up in Left and Right Configurations
- High Quality -10AN Fittings Used Throughout
- Custom Made Billet 6061 Male and Female AN Adapter Fittings Integrate with Factory Lines and Fittings
- Aluminum Direct-Fit Mounting Brackets
- Pictorial Instruction Guide for Easy Install
- Single Core 'Smart Cooler' Kit (19 or 25 Row)
- Dual Core Retrofit 'Smart Cooler' Kit (19 or 25 Row) - for cars that came with a SINGLE factory cooler, wanting to add a second cooler - extended soft lines and adapter fittings included for second cooler)
- Dual Core 'Smart Cooler' Kit (19 or 25 Row) - For R1/R2 cars that came with DUAL oil coolers from the factory
- SBG Race -> 'Smart Cooler' Kit - Upgrade kit to convert a previous SBG Oil Cooler Kit to 'Smart Cooler' setup (eliminating existing H-pattern thermostat)
- Universal Versions of the 'Smart Cooler' Assemblies Available Separately - kits for other platforms, universal 'Smart Cooler' Parts, and FD RX7 adapter fittings available separately as well.
Single Cooler Version -> https://www.sakebombgarage.com/sbg-f...tem-fd3s-rx-7/
Dual R1 or Dual Retrofit Version -> https://www.sakebombgarage.com/sbg-f...tem-fd3s-rx-7/
*Official product shots and full details coming shortly
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GoodfellaFD3S (03-03-24)
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As someone who's purchased your previous setup and hasn't even installed it -- am I missing where the "upgrade" is available on your webstore or is it something that is still in the works?
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Well based on the description, upgrading would reduce the temperature swings that are experienced between the open/closed state of a large single thermostat system. Now I'm not saying that those temp swings are 'bad', merely explaining that the theory seems to be that the new setup is more responsive and offers more consistent oil temps that fluctuate within a narrower range.
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I'll be keen to purchase a pair of the smart coolers when they are available seperately, can't see them on your site yet. These will also reduce the pressure drop of having a pair of cores in series like most aftermarket coolers are configured on an FD, great solution guys .
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Well based on the description, upgrading would reduce the temperature swings that are experienced between the open/closed state of a large single thermostat system. Now I'm not saying that those temp swings are 'bad', merely explaining that the theory seems to be that the new setup is more responsive and offers more consistent oil temps that fluctuate within a narrower range.
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SakeBomb Garage (03-07-24)
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Thank you all for the support!
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neit_jnf (03-06-24)
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I will be waiting for that upgrade kit for the existing SBG oil kits. I purchased the 25 row Kraken performance cores, with the 99 spec hardware, and stainless steel lines years ago and I never got to install them (I know I'm lazy). My FD currently has the OEM single oil cooler and I'll buy whatever parts to make this install easier.
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I'll be keen to purchase a pair of the smart coolers when they are available seperately, can't see them on your site yet. These will also reduce the pressure drop of having a pair of cores in series like most aftermarket coolers are configured on an FD, great solution guys .
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They're still in series when the thermostats open, same as factory duals. They MAY reduce overcooling when single core cooling is enough and the second is bypassed. It's a nice kit, I thought about adding a second Mocal H thermostat to my old CWR kit but instead I just upped the thermostat temp from 180 to 200 with a Mocal rebuild kit.
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I will be waiting for that upgrade kit for the existing SBG oil kits. I purchased the 25 row Kraken performance cores, with the 99 spec hardware, and stainless steel lines years ago and I never got to install them (I know I'm lazy). My FD currently has the OEM single oil cooler and I'll buy whatever parts to make this install easier.
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What is the anticipated price point @SakeBomb Garage ?
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Does a 200° thermostat seem high to anyone else?
The OE thermostat starts to open at around 150° and is fully open at 180° and they were also integrated into the cooler. I know we're not talking apples to apples in the cooling performance of an OE setup vs a SBG setup but still.
Maybe I'm being paranoid and showing my ignorance - but it just seem counter intuitive. SBG any specific reasoning in that temperature choice?
The OE thermostat starts to open at around 150° and is fully open at 180° and they were also integrated into the cooler. I know we're not talking apples to apples in the cooling performance of an OE setup vs a SBG setup but still.
Maybe I'm being paranoid and showing my ignorance - but it just seem counter intuitive. SBG any specific reasoning in that temperature choice?
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Does a 200° thermostat seem high to anyone else?
The OE thermostat starts to open at around 150° and is fully open at 180° and they were also integrated into the cooler. I know we're not talking apples to apples in the cooling performance of an OE setup vs a SBG setup but still.
Maybe I'm being paranoid and showing my ignorance - but it just seem counter intuitive. SBG any specific reasoning in that temperature choice?
The OE thermostat starts to open at around 150° and is fully open at 180° and they were also integrated into the cooler. I know we're not talking apples to apples in the cooling performance of an OE setup vs a SBG setup but still.
Maybe I'm being paranoid and showing my ignorance - but it just seem counter intuitive. SBG any specific reasoning in that temperature choice?
When you have larger/more efficient heat exchangers, you don't need to compensate for lack of thermal volume/heat soak by opening the thermostat sooner.
I could be wrong though, I'm just some guy on the internet
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Speed of light (04-03-24)
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Even in stock form, R1/2 dual oil cooler system can overcool the oil in cold weather; some owners cover one cooler to prevent this. Overcooling can cause the oil to never reach proper operating temps, thus keeping viscosity higher and flow lower than it should be and also preventing evaporation and gassing off of water condensation and fuel dilution.
This is from Racing Beat's website: "Oil temperature is critical in rotary engines. Oil temperature entering the engine should never be allowed to exceed 205°F. While many factors affect oil temperature, oil cooler size and location are very important to consider."
A 200 F oil thermostat is perfectly adequate with efficient coolers to control the oil temps. To be absolutely sure, owners can monitor temps to decide if a larger cooler or lower temp thermostat is needed for their specific driving habits.
This is from Racing Beat's website: "Oil temperature is critical in rotary engines. Oil temperature entering the engine should never be allowed to exceed 205°F. While many factors affect oil temperature, oil cooler size and location are very important to consider."
A 200 F oil thermostat is perfectly adequate with efficient coolers to control the oil temps. To be absolutely sure, owners can monitor temps to decide if a larger cooler or lower temp thermostat is needed for their specific driving habits.
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@SakeBomb Garage any updates on the release date? Also, is there an extra port in the opposite side of the thermostat? If yes, is this the cold or hot side of the thermostat? If this is a extra port, I'm curious if this could be an easy way to add a fan switch temp sensor.
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Hey there! Yes, these are on our site as we speak! :^)
As far as extra ports go, the bodies do not currently have any. However, there is certainly space for them to be tapped to accept a sensor.
If you've got any other questions, please send us an email at info@sakebombgarage.com!
As far as extra ports go, the bodies do not currently have any. However, there is certainly space for them to be tapped to accept a sensor.
If you've got any other questions, please send us an email at info@sakebombgarage.com!
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I tried emailing you guys but no response yet Was seeing what the ETA is on these? Ordered a duel smart cooler kit with 25 row Setrab and using the OEM lines from oil filter and front cover; ordered June 14th.
Also I'd like to buy 4 extra sets of the "Custom Made Billet 6061 Male and Female AN Adapter Fittings Integrate with Factory Lines and Fittings"
Also I'd like to buy 4 extra sets of the "Custom Made Billet 6061 Male and Female AN Adapter Fittings Integrate with Factory Lines and Fittings"
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Hey,
Everything is in stock, and happy to answer any questions you got. I did not personally see your email. Hopefully someone will reach out shortly if that haven't already. Feel free to use coupon code JULY4 on check out. Our 4th of July sale is now live.
Everything is in stock, and happy to answer any questions you got. I did not personally see your email. Hopefully someone will reach out shortly if that haven't already. Feel free to use coupon code JULY4 on check out. Our 4th of July sale is now live.
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