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Old 09-19-07 | 06:21 AM
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Thumbs up Scatter Shields

For a REAL scatter shield, go to http://www.theracingstore.com Look under drivetrains.
Old 09-19-07 | 05:47 PM
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I have that shield. It is not SFI.
Old 09-20-07 | 05:20 AM
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They list it for a Rx7 but which one? is it for the FB,FC, or FD model?
Old 09-24-07 | 12:01 AM
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I need an SFI scatter sheild. Bacon was supposed to make one this spring but he never did. Anyone else out there know of where to buy one???????
Old 09-24-07 | 12:08 AM
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I need an SFI scatter sheild. Bacon was supposed to make one this spring but he never did. Anyone else out there know of where to buy one???????
how many times do I have to tell you................. nobody makes a "SFI LEGAL" scatter shield.

build a 2x4 cage around your bellhousing out of pine and paint it silver, son
Old 09-24-07 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Viking War Hammer
how many times do I have to tell you................. nobody makes a "SFI LEGAL" scatter shield.

build a 2x4 cage around your bellhousing out of pine and paint it silver, son
Old 09-24-07 | 12:29 AM
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No such thing as a SFI. scatter sheild.
SFI. bellhousing can be bought here to replace the Mazda one.

http://www.browellbellhousing.com/


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Old 09-24-07 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by crispeed
No such thing as a SFI. scatter sheild.
SFI. bellhousing can be bought here to replace the Mazda one.

http://www.browellbellhousing.com/

Yea I don't want to have to sell my left nut to buy one of those. sorry
Old 09-24-07 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Viking War Hammer
how many times do I have to tell you................. nobody makes a "SFI LEGAL" scatter shield.

build a 2x4 cage around your bellhousing out of pine and paint it silver, son
I think BIG AL would **** a brick if he saw that. Oh god, I can see it already, "You are banned forever!"
Old 09-24-07 | 04:08 PM
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JW transmission makes a SFI shield for the TII trans. If you want it that bad i am sure you could figure out a way to swap it.


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Old 09-24-07 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 13B-RX3
JW transmission makes a SFI shield for the TII trans. If you want it that bad i am sure you could figure out a way to swap it.

Those are SFI rated for automatic transmissions using a torque converter but not for a manual transmission/clutch equipped setup. They carry the same rating as the now illegal blankets did. The rating required to make it leagal is much higher. Just in case you did not know. You're better off with a home made shield constructed with 1/4 inch steel than any aluminum one.
I'm also not going to get into the other problems with those bellhousings that people have found out after purchasing one.

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Old 09-25-07 | 12:02 AM
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Yea I don't want to have to sell my left nut to buy one of those. sorry
Well I guess you have placed a price on your's and others safety at the track then. After you've witness in person the destruction and the carnage to the human body what a thrown clutch/flywheel can result in I'll bet you will be the first one to go out and get one.
You gotta pay to play. At least have the respect for other's safety if you don't have any for yourself. This is a very dangerous sport we all love. If you want to play at the pro level then you gotta abide by the rules.
You won't have to worry about your left nut when the ring gear from the factory flywheel come through the windsheild and exit the back of your head.
I'll bet you don't even have your ring gear welded to the flywheel.
Things you learn the hard way.

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Old 09-25-07 | 12:23 AM
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Building a safe shield is not that hard its the sfi rating thats the problem! There must not be enough $$$$$ it for some one to make a setup for the stock 5 speed. The liability would have to be very high, and if not installed right what good would it be.
Old 09-25-07 | 12:36 AM
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Building a safe shield is not that hard its the sfi rating thats the problem! There must not be enough $$$$$ it for some one to make a setup for the stock 5 speed. The liability would have to be very high, and if not installed right what good would it be.
The only way to make it safe and legal is to have it SFI certified.
These people have a SFI legal bellhousing to replace the factory stock one.

http://www.browellbellhousing.com/

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Old 09-25-07 | 12:38 AM
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This was just a clutch explosion. Thank God the flywheel stayed in place.








A quote from Ross(Dragon performance UK) after the incident.

'Went testing on sunday. Just did sixty foot first and did a 1.30 on the new Toyo drag tyes.
Then on the next run the clutch exploded and went through the firewall from the engine bay side and also through the floor between my legs.
The bell housing was completely missing and the gearbox was only an inch off the floor.
The clutch plate ripped though the additional fuel rail on the the plenum, so methanol started pumping out everywhere, luckily though another part of the clutch smashed through the fuel pump relays and cut the power to them, so no fire!
The Downpip is wrecked, it also ripped the brake master cylinder in half.
One of the tyres is cut to pieces, and lots of other random bits, wiring etc has been wrecked, so much damage!
One of the Santapod guys said that some of the clutch pieces were dug 4 inches into the floor!!'

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Old 09-25-07 | 01:23 AM
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That tells me no toyo drag tyes! I know not funnie, i will be checking with the people you listed to see about a shield. I kinda have got used to my feet and left and right nuts!
Old 09-25-07 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by crispeed
Well I guess you have placed a price on your's and others safety at the track then. After you've witness in person the destruction and the carnage to the human body what a thrown clutch/flywheel can result in I'll bet you will be the first one to go out and get one.
You gotta pay to play. At least have the respect for other's safety if you don't have any for yourself. This is a very dangerous sport we all love. If you want to play at the pro level then you gotta abide by the rules.
You won't have to worry about your left nut when the ring gear from the factory flywheel come through the windsheild and exit the back of your head.
I'll bet you don't even have your ring gear welded to the flywheel.
Things you learn the hard way.
At what point is a scatter shield necessary?(or recommended)

I am all about safety.
Old 09-25-07 | 06:43 AM
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+1 id like to know as well
Old 09-25-07 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by KNONFS
At what point is a scatter shield necessary?(or recommended)

I am all about safety.
With our engines I think anyone who has modified and is running a clutch/pressure plate other than stock should run one. I've had N/A slightly ported motors but with a very good clutch/pressure plate setup just spin the ring gear right off. Horrible experience if you've ever experienced it before. Like Crispeed has already mentioned get a scatter shield and also throw some welds on your ring gear. Your car and your body will greatly appreciate it. You'll get people that will say that they have never had any problems and don't see need for a scatter shield. But if you have been witness to a flywheel explosion you would not even think twice of running without one.
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With our engines I think anyone who has modified and is running a clutch/pressure plate other than stock should run one. I've had N/A slightly ported motors but with a very good clutch/pressure plate setup just spin the ring gear right off. Horrible experience if you've ever experienced it before. Like Crispeed has already mentioned get a scatter shield and also throw some welds on your ring gear. Your car and your body will greatly appreciate it. You'll get people that will say that they have never had any problems and don't see need for a scatter shield. But if you have been witness to a flywheel explosion you would not even think twice of running without one.
Thanks for the info!

Now here's a couple of stupid questions?

If running a RB aluminum flywheel, should I still weld the ring? Or is that just an issue on the OEM one? Would the ones from the racing store be enough?

Sorry about the noob questions, I want to be safe above all!
Old 09-25-07 | 11:08 AM
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Thanks for the info!

Now here's a couple of stupid questions?

If running a RB aluminum flywheel, should I still weld the ring? Or is that just an issue on the OEM one? Would the ones from the racing store be enough?

Sorry about the noob questions, I want to be safe above all!
The RB aluminum flywheel has the ring gear bolted in place. You still need to keep your eye on it for extreme applications because I've seen the gear start to rock and the bolts wear on the aluminum and you know what the rest is.
Old 09-25-07 | 11:26 AM
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Cool Scatter My Shield

Its really very easy to have a "SFI" bellhouseing on your rotary. You make a steel plate that bolts to the rotary. Then you bolt a Lakewood bellhouseing to the steel plate, and now you can use any tranie you want to behind the Lakewood "SFI Rated" bellhouseing/scatter shield. I've done this, and its no big deal. Any one with a mill can do the job. Go for it and quit looking for something thats not made.
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Originally Posted by crispeed
The RB aluminum flywheel has the ring gear bolted in place. You still need to keep your eye on it for extreme applications because I've seen the gear start to rock and the bolts wear on the aluminum and you know what the rest is.
Thanks for the info!!

I've seen cars that had a two piece steel (I pressume) cover, one piece goes on top of the stock bellhousing, and the other piece at the bootom. Its like a cover for the stock bellhousing...

Its been a while since the last time I saw something like that, and I don't know how efective it was.
Old 09-25-07 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Dick Elliott
Its really very easy to have a "SFI" bellhouseing on your rotary. You make a steel plate that bolts to the rotary. Then you bolt a Lakewood bellhouseing to the steel plate, and now you can use any tranie you want to behind the Lakewood "SFI Rated" bellhouseing/scatter shield. I've done this, and its no big deal. Any one with a mill can do the job. Go for it and quit looking for something thats not made.

I don't think a Chevy Lakewood bell housing would fit in a FD chassis without cutting the tunnel. There is more to it than "cut a plate", and on top of that you could no longer use the stock transmission. I think most people on this thread are looking for a stock replacement drop in SFI bellhousing for a FD which apparently doesn't exist (realistically). Too bad. I guess the home made scatter shield is the best choice.

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Old 09-26-07 | 06:16 AM
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You gave up too easy. You can bolt any tranie to a lakewood bellhouseing by drilling new holes. And who said anything about a chev bellhouseing? Lakewood makes a dozen different ones. Some big / some not so big.


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