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Old 01-02-11 | 06:49 PM
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Could you use an RE or auto FD rear plate and turn the starter around like the auto cars run? Would be a 13B only solution, but...
Old 01-02-11 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ultimatejay

The TII uses a larger diameter flywheel and ring gear than the N/A, so no swapping ring gears would not work. And this is why the starters are different.

So long story short. I have to go all TII parts to make this work for my car.
understand totally where your coming from, had the same bag of fun for my car last year, even had to make new gearbox cross members to suit each angle bellhousing , and yes literally every thing from each era has to be used, but i was told buy a few different guys that you can get a turbo spec ring gear fitted to your older (smaller) flywheel , saving you changing at least your clutch and flywheel
I dunno i thought they were on crack,but it may be worth asking around if it can be done
Old 01-02-11 | 08:43 PM
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Noting better then an old school ride with old school drive . BTW beautiful job on the 2 and most of all keep having a blast doing it!!!!!
Thanks and I always have a blast!

Originally Posted by RoTaRyBoYz
Nice tranny, can't wait to see what you'll do with a 13b PP under the hood. Good luck in 2011

Thinking about getting a GF-5R-reverse for a honda motor I got here..
Thanks Aaron, good luck to you too. BTW my son wears his t- shirt backwards so he can see the cars himself and he wears the shirt almost everyday. I'm going to have to buy some from you soon, but you have to get some All motor West coast white boy shirts.


Originally Posted by C. Ludwig
Could you use an RE or auto FD rear plate and turn the starter around like the auto cars run? Would be a 13B only solution, but...
I dont' know. I wan't to run both engines so that is not an option right now but thanks for the idea.


Oh and beefcake, I see what your saying now. I have to still use the TII bellhousing and adaptor plate, but then I could use the smaller flywheel and clutch. I'm sure it could easily be welded on but I don't want to risk things coming apart and balance issues.
Old 01-02-11 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RoTaRyBoYz
Nice tranny, can't wait to see what you'll do with a 13b PP under the hood. Good luck in 2011

Thinking about getting a GF-5R-reverse for a honda motor I got here..
Don't do it. Ditch that b series and build a k-series or s2000 motor.
They will make more power and at least spin in the right direction.
Old 01-03-11 | 09:26 AM
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Jay you could use the turbo II bell housing with your small 12A flywheel. obviously the turbo II starter wont catch the 12A flywheel. What most of us do is simple. we modify the turbo II bell housing and move the turbo II starter inward to catch the 12A flywheel teeth. I'm sure rene could help you with modifing the turbo II bell housing.
Old 01-03-11 | 10:53 AM
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Thanks everyone for the help and ideas. I just got off the phone with Liberty and they are sending me a TII adaptor plate at no cost. Problem solved.
Old 01-04-11 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ultimatejay
Yes, since it is all ready to go I thought I'd see what it would do with the clutchless before I put the 13b in. Actually to see how really bad a shifter I am with the stocker.
your shifting did get a bit better at the end, but you still suck. so with the clutchless gearbox I see a 3 second improvement from your previous 11.9... to some it up. 11.9 on a turbo II gearbox and 8.9 on the liberty clutchless gearbox.......
Old 01-04-11 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Judge Ito
your shifting did get a bit better at the end, but you still suck. so with the clutchless gearbox I see a 3 second improvement from your previous 11.9... to some it up. 11.9 on a turbo II gearbox and 8.9 on the liberty clutchless gearbox.......
Oh, C'mon... it wasnt that bad was it?
Old 01-04-11 | 11:46 PM
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Moving on up jay arent we? nice box,, hopefully santa will bring me one like it one of these days..good luck on that 13b.... im working on my rear end gearing as we speak,,its gonna be a good summer i feel it....btw your shifting is alot better than mine so dont feel bad...

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Old 01-04-11 | 11:48 PM
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Moving on up jay arent we? nice box,, hopefully santa will bring me one like it one of these days..good luck on that 13b.... im working on my rear end gearing as we speak,,its gonna be a good summer i feel it....btw your shifting is alot better than mine so dont feel bad...
Thanks and good luck to you this year. Keep me posted on your progress.
Old 01-05-11 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by oldrotaryman
Moving on up jay arent we? nice box,, hopefully santa will bring me one like it one of these days..good luck on that 13b.... im working on my rear end gearing as we speak,,its gonna be a good summer i feel it....btw your shifting is alot better than mine so dont feel bad...
yep, yours is pretty bad too. but congrats on being out there racing. tell Juankillo I said happy new year..
Old 01-05-11 | 08:35 AM
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Oh, C'mon... it wasnt that bad was it?
Jay u did have some progress. but man!!! for us out here watching you grow was horrible.......
Old 01-05-11 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Judge Ito
Jay u did have some progress. but man!!! for us out here watching you grow was horrible.......
That just shows you how really fast this 12a is.

No, I know I had alot of room for improvement but I knew I was going to sell this trans. soon so I kept it easy. I never even tried to power shift once and never even grinded a gear. LOL. Don't have to worry about it now. Just have to remember not to put my left foot down and my right foot off.
Old 01-06-11 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by enzo250
Don't do it. Ditch that b series and build a k-series or s2000 motor.
They will make more power and at least spin in the right direction.
I concur; the b series head flow/design is very inferior to that of the K and F series engines. To give you an idea, you can port a B series head all the way to the coolant/oil galleries and put a wild cam in it and it STILL won't flow as much air as an F or K series will in stock form.

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Old 01-06-11 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by C. Ludwig
Could you use an RE or auto FD rear plate and turn the starter around like the auto cars run? Would be a 13B only solution, but...
I thought the same thing ... But then I remembered him saying that he wanted to run the 12a for a while first, so I threw out that idea.

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Old 01-06-11 | 10:54 PM
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santa can be late i'll wait lol nice bro!
Old 01-06-11 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorilla RE
I concur; the b series head flow/design is very inferior to that of the K and F series engines. To give you an idea, you can port a B series head all the way to the coolant/oil galleries and put a wild cam in it and it STILL won't flow as much air as an F or K series will in stock form.

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EHHHH, dont clutter my thread with that piston talk crap!
Old 01-07-11 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ultimatejay
EHHHH, dont clutter my thread with that piston talk crap!
I knew I'd get this Believe me, you would be hard pressed to find a bigger rotor head than I... But it doesn't change the fact that I build and tune them all on the daily. And love what I do, regardless of if it's piston or rotor! But in the end, I only put ONE of them under my 7's hood

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Old 01-07-11 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorilla RE
I knew I'd get this Believe me, you would be hard pressed to find a bigger rotor head than I... But it doesn't change the fact that I build and tune them all on the daily. And love what I do, regardless of if it's piston or rotor! But in the end, I only put ONE of them under my 7's hood

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It's cool, I was just playin.
Old 01-08-11 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Gorilla RE
I knew I'd get this Believe me, you would be hard pressed to find a bigger rotor head than I... But it doesn't change the fact that I build and tune them all on the daily. And love what I do, regardless of if it's piston or rotor! But in the end, I only put ONE of them under my 7's hood

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I got a new t-shirt going your way with a template for you. Mr. Barry thinks your a good guy.. happy new year jon..
Old 01-08-11 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Judge Ito
yep, yours is pretty bad too. but congrats on being out there racing. tell Juankillo I said happy new year..
lol i will, hopefully we can practice this year on it we"ll be at the 16 on lakeland next weekend....ill let juan know...
Old 05-17-11 | 08:49 AM
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anyone got ideas on the cost of a t2 bellhousing adapter for these units , is it the bit on the liberty website that says 400 bucks mazda adapter ?
Old 05-17-11 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by beefcake
anyone got ideas on the cost of a t2 bellhousing adapter for these units , is it the bit on the liberty website that says 400 bucks mazda adapter ?
I have an extra one that has the holes cut out for old school bellhousing
and TII bellhousing if your interested. Hit me up on the Pm.
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