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Old 01-16-09, 11:18 PM
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I am a very good artist and have many ideas but my eyesight is not that good. Box up a set and send them to me so i can get an artist's perspective.
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artist or asstist??
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Originally Posted by RoTaRyBoYz
artist or asstist??
I think more like asskisstist.
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Old 01-16-09, 11:51 PM
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No he meant artist>con-artist!
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too funny allen

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I am a very good artist and have many ideas but my eyesight is not that good. Box up a set and send them to me so i can get an artist's perspective.
no problem, I will box you up a set and put a check in the box for your time. will this work for you? your too funny.

Better than the drawing, why dont you take your spare time and go to the track and let see that MIAMI Power go down the track?

Take care funny boy and give a heads up before you go to the track and maybe i will go up and visit you. Free pointer jaja
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Have someone put the rotors in a light box and take some better quality pics.. use a black background and get pics from different angles
What we are looking for is new cool ideas for our sticker.

Sorry about not posting more pics of our rotors in the web but there are some secret there. A patent is on the works but we still dont want the haters and those who dont want to put the time in for research to steal our idea. For Example Rohan from xtreme Rotary, oh sorry COPY PASTE ROTARY.
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What exactly are you trying to patent? There might be more than you are showing but just making the rotor out of aluminum isn't a patentable item I don't think. If I understand the Curtis Wright patent correctly the items under patent protection were the fin cooling and the oiling arrangment. Could be wrong though...
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Originally Posted by eastcoastparts
What we are looking for is new cool ideas for our sticker.

Sorry about not posting more pics of our rotors in the web but there are some secret there. A patent is on the works but we still dont want the haters and those who dont want to put the time in for research to steal our idea. For Example Rohan from xtreme Rotary, oh sorry COPY PASTE ROTARY.
Edgar I totally understand where you are coming from.. He copied the TB down to every nut & bolt , so its wise to patent your rotor.

Others have made rotors, but it's clear that you have little tricks that needs to be protected by a patent. I plan on visiting the "short pants- Tuna" in the spring, so maybe i'll get a first hand view on the rotors
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Originally Posted by rjwoods77
What exactly are you trying to patent? There might be more than you are showing but just making the rotor out of aluminum isn't a patentable item I don't think. If I understand the Curtis Wright patent correctly the items under patent protection were the fin cooling and the oiling arrangment. Could be wrong though...
I have seen the patent that mr. wright has and it is nothing like ours except it is a rotor. The idea of making a lighter rotor is the same but how we designed it is different.
What i dont understand is when we started with this project everyone expected us to fail. They said it would not work, it would melt, the apex seal slots would spread and so on. As of today, we went ahead and proved every one wrong. We are not saying that we are 100% finished with our research, but we are way farther than anyone had expected us to get.

We have asked for others to provide some examples of other people that have tested or ran an aluminum rotor in a rotary engine and still nothing. Yes, Mr Wright has or had a patent for his theory of the aluminum rotor but no sign of any documented tests.

My question is, Where are these famous rotors? And further more, why aren't they in production? The industry obviously wants them. This is the future for this incredible motor, not just for power but more importantly, fuel economy.

Please don't take this the wrong way but we just want to see facts, not theories. We can talk about aliens, Big foot, and other myths that people talk about. The facts are the facts and this is all we care about. All inventions can be improved over the course of time. I think that the current rotor being used has reached its maximum potential and it is time for a better, lighter, more productive part to help us reach the next level of performance.
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Originally Posted by RoTaRyBoYz
Edgar I totally understand where you are coming from.. He copied the TB down to every nut & bolt , so its wise to patent your rotor.

Others have made rotors, but it's clear that you have little tricks that needs to be protected by a patent. I plan on visiting the "short pants- Tuna" in the spring, so maybe i'll get a first hand view on the rotors
No problem and thank you for the support.
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Old 01-17-09, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by eastcoastparts
no problem, I will box you up a set and put a check in the box for your time. will this work for you? your too funny.

Better than the drawing, why dont you take your spare time and go to the track and let see that MIAMI Power go down the track?

Take care funny boy and give a heads up before you go to the track and maybe i will go up and visit you. Free pointer jaja

Don't forget to throw some money in for shipping


Give me a call next week Edgar. I have a good friend who has a wealth of information about patents. I may have some info that you would benefit from.
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Make sure you investigate the licensing rights that Mazda has on Wankel technology in the US. It would suck to go through all of that just to get a cease and desist order in the mail from them. What you are doing isn't a peripheral part to the engine.
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I don't see any difference between his Rotor compared to the other guys that are making Apex seals & aluminum side plates.. He didn't copy their design, he simply reinvented the wheel- so to speak

with that said, I don't believe he should have a problem with Mazda etc..
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Old 01-18-09, 08:11 PM
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Since patents take time its best to sell and prove yourself into the market by providing good parts and service.
That is why theres so many pat. pend. products.
Patent or not if these are what seem to be they will be sucessful.
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Originally Posted by rjwoods77
Make sure you investigate the licensing rights that Mazda has on Wankel technology in the US. It would suck to go through all of that just to get a cease and desist order in the mail from them. What you are doing isn't a peripheral part to the engine.
I would think apex seals are similarly classified, and we know loads of aftermarket manufacturers.

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I highly doubt that mazda will come on to this as a patent thing ... If anything they probably love all this kind of stuff to further increase their research since they're basically the only big name out there ... I'm am surprised that nobody makes block from scratch yet.
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Old 01-19-09, 04:03 PM
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"I'm am surprised that nobody makes block from scratch yet."

doesn't racing beat make there own irons and housing?
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i don't know if they make housings, but i know they make the irons, but a full out company that makes everything. East Coast parts maybe wants to step it up?
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i don't know if they make housings, but i know they make the irons, but a full out company that makes everything. East Coast parts maybe wants to step it up?
We are working on it. We have a few new projects in the works. All we can say is, toy. mits., nissan, hondas, ect. LOOK OUT AND DONT FALL BEHIND CAUSE WE ARE COMING.
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One of the major reasons Mazda's rotaries work is because of their rotor housings and the process in which they are constructed. If anyone successfully copies that design, you can bet Mazda will be knocking at the door.
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Originally Posted by eastcoastparts
We are working on it. We have a few new projects in the works. All we can say is, toy. mits., nissan, hondas, ect. LOOK OUT AND DONT FALL BEHIND CAUSE WE ARE COMING.
Hope you're successful in your endeavours, good luck!
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Originally Posted by eastcoastparts
Sorry, but that is our secret, but you are correct there is no end mill that small. It took us one year to find a way to cut this.

You give it away in some since on the web site when your showing the cutting. Nice work though. You cutting on a VF3?
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We are happy to announce another successful test with our billet rotors. We installed a set of rotors on a 93 with a GT-47, ALS seals and the E&J 4 barrel Throttle body. We were able to produce 505 @ 17 psi of boost with 93 octane gas. The car was driven as a daily drive for over 600 miles with no problems. The motor was taken apart and every thing looked perfect. All of the clearance and all the walls show no sign of stress.
This pics are dedicated to those who said that the rotor would melt and that they would not perform on a street application. This is proof that we should not speak or comment about some thing that's never been done. Nothing in this world is easy and if you don't try, nothing will ever be accomplish. We understand that more testing has to be done and it will be.
At the end of January we will be testing on a road race car and we will provide the result of our test.
thank you all for the support.

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HERE THE LINK FOR THE PICTURES. http://eastcoastparts.com/html/billet_rotor.html
Edgar, Great job!

Have you considered using a thermal coating like the ones used on the piston crowns to help control heat.

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Edgar, Great job!

Have you considered using a thermal coating like the ones used on the piston crowns to help control heat.

Barry
BERRY,

WE HAVE CONSIDERED AND WE ALREADY HAVE A COATING THAT WE ARE PLANNING ON USING. WE WANT TO TEST WITH OUT COATING AND SEE ITS UN COATED POTENTIAL. AFTER THIS TEST WE WILL COAST AND RE TEST.
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You give it away in some since on the web site when your showing the cutting. Nice work though. You cutting on a VF3?
YES WE DO HAVE A VF3.

TRUST ME, WE HAVE NOT GIVEN ANY SECRET AWAY. WHAT YOU SEE ON THE WEB PICS IS JUST AN INDICATION OF THE SIDE SEALS, NOT A MACHINING PROCESS.
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