BoostedFd3s

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I'm looking to upgrade my walboro pump to the aeromotive a1000 pump. I need to know where I can buy the proper fuel lines to do this upgrade. Length of fuel line needed would help as well. Any links that will direct me to the fuel lines would be awesome as well. Thanks in advance.

Tony

Attila the Fun

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I replaced the stock fuel lines with flexible, stainless steel ones from Jegs. This not a cheap way to go by the time you add the Aeroquip fittings.

Evil Aviator

This is a complicated custom fabrication job and not a direct bolt-in. If you don't know what you are doing then you should have a professional shop perform the work. In this case, the shop does not need to know anything about rotary engines.

Given that nobody on this forum ever listens to me and is under the impression that they can perform all types of fabrication themselves despite not even understanding the basics, here is some more information:

This project would normally require:
- Aluminum hard line (5/16"OD for up to 300bhp, 3/8"OD for up to 500bhp, 1/2"OD for up to 1000bhp)
- Pipe bender
- Flare tool
- Fittings and adapters (see the Aeromotive web site)
- Flexible fuel line rated for EFI pressures
- AN fitting wrenches
- AN fitting vice jaw protector
- Hack saw
- Vice

Along with the fuel pump, you should have also bought:
- Aeromotive in-line fuel filter (one or two)
- Aeromotive fuel pressure regulator

The hard tubing length, flex tubing length, and types of fittings you will need depend on how you design this custom project. If you plan well you can limit the amount of mistakes. Whether or not to buy reusable fittings is up to you. Plan on spending at least $300 on lines and fittings.

Most of the items can be purchased at your local speed shop, or from similar online retailers like Jegs and Summit.
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...10019_-1_10267
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...733687&NeXID=4

BTW, AN fittings are sized by the 16th of an inch. For example, -8 AN = 8/16" = 1/2".

Good luck.

BoostedFd3s

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LOL I am definitely listening to you...as I am no pro at fabrication. I'll be looking to run a different route (possibly dual pumps) instead of the a1000.

Evil Aviator

LOL, that is even more complicated, and will require additional fuel filters, hard line, flex line, and fittings. You may want to stick with the A1000 to save some money.

Oh, I just remembered that RETed covered the fuel system on his website. However, I think his statement about 500bhp on the stock fuel lines, while possible, is way too hard on the fuel pump, and an upgrade should be small potatoes for anybody who has a car built to that power level. I prefer the more conservative rule of thumb of 300bhp from A. Graham Bell. Also, note that RETed's diagram assumes a quality fuel pressure regulator (SX or Aeromotive brand) with a built-in pulsation damper.
http://fc3spro.com/TECH/MODS/FUEL/fsystem.htm

Let me ask you this... Do you really need an upgraded fuel system, or would the stock system with a Walbro or Bosch in-tank fuel pump work?

sunburn

Listen to the Evil Aviator he speaks the truth.

BoostedFd3s

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I really do need an upgraded fuel pump. Shooting for 500+whp, tuning for 23+psi. So the walboro by itself will not do. Also I was reading the install pdf on summit and it called for -10an lines for the a1000. I remember you saying -8an lines. Which one do I use?? Thanks for your help Aviator.

Attila the Fun

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A prophet crying in the wilderness...to no profit.

Evil Aviator

It sounds like you are planning for about the same power as I am. My friend and I are currently piecing together the fuel system for my car. So far we are using a Fuel Safe Pro Cell fuel cell, SX 18201 fuel pump similar to your A1000, SX 41001 -10AN/10micron in-line filter, 1/2" hard lines to a Y-splitter that feeds 3/8"NPT KG fuel rails in parallel, then to an SX 15402 fuel pressure regulator with a -6 return line. We are still trying to decide on the lines to the fuel rail, which will probably be -8, with an adapter for the -10 fuel pressure regulator inlets. I am also trying to decide whether to use one of those new Aeromotive -10 shutoff valve fuel filters to feed the pump, or just a regular -10AN/100micron filter and -10AN Jiffy-Tite connector to act as a shutoff valve.

I hate to tell you this, but when all is said and done I will have well over $3,000 in my fuel system. I hope you know what you are getting into because I sure didn't, lol.

Use -10 to feed the pump, and after that you can go to -8. If you download the catalog from the Aeromotive website you can see fuel system recommendations in the "Power Planner" section.

Also, since I assume you have a street-driven car, are you planning on running the fuel pump voltage with a dedicated fuel pump controller, or does the Power-FC have some way to run it?

Thanks, but unlike some of my physics-based posts, this one is mostly an opinion based on my own frustrations with the subject. Hopefully some other people will chime in. RETed will probably find this thread since I have invoked his name, lol.

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May end in Houghmagandie
Some ither day.

BoostedFd3s

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well it only cost me a few hundreds b/c I already have 850cc/1600cc injectors, fuel rails, fpr, ect. I just didnt have the fuel pump, sump tank, and lines for installation to the front of the car. I'll start piecing things together when they arrive. Thanks for all your help Aviator.