Does anyone have first hand experience with the Pettit Banzai package? If so, I would like to know if it would be that much trouble to scrap the twin turbo setup that they are using for a GT 3540 unit from HKS? Any and all info would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. Laterz.

Zach

 

The Banzai is a 3 rotor. Why put a 35/40 on it? If you are going to go single, make it count and use something appropriate for a 3 rotor.

Do some research.

 

go with a T-66, i have driven one and it is sick my friends...comes on quick cause the 20B has enough exhaust at low rpm and when it does...WOW!!!!!!


either way swaping the stocker for a single is not that much work and you can make a custom kit easy

 

I was mainly asking if anyone has had experience with the actual Banzai package? I was also wondering what all they do to the car. I have searched their site, but all it says is to call and make an appointment.

I was thinking of something like a T-51Kai ball bearing unit. I just was more worried about fast spool up instead of top end power like a T-66 or T-78 would give me. Unless I'm that far off one how quick a 20B would spool one of those big boys up. Please keep the info coming, I really do appreciate it.

Zach

 

This is directly from Pettit's website. They also have a 6 page article from SCC about the banzai. What more could you want?


Taking Excellence to the Limit With Three Rotors
by
Ed Dellis

After having the opportunity to drive some of the world's fastest cars, from Lamborghinis to Ferraris, few cars remain that can elicit emotions that amount to fear. But when you begin with a turbocharged supercar bred for racing and double its power output, you have the foundation for such an animal.

Pettit Racing in Fort Lauderdale, FL, has created the Banzai RX-7. Dispatching the quarter mile in a scant 11.4 seconds at over 126 mph, a driver is just at the first half of the Banzai's performance envelope: top speed is estimated at 240 mph. The brainchild behind the flawless conversion is veteran racer, Cameron Worth. Worth has a long record of racing rotary cars that dates back to the seventies, so it seems fitting that he transfer that knowledge to create a street-legal "Road Warrior" - as he calls it - capable of blowing the doors off supercars costing nearly twice as much. He does it with a turbocharged, 3-rotor conversion.

Under the hood, it seems less cluttered than its two-rotor counterpart. Fitting nicely, everything looks as if it is the way the engineers in Japan had originally intended it. Perhaps what is so impressive about the car is its civility. It can be idled around town, yet it can be rocketed down the on-ramp with a ferocity that words simply cannot explain; it must be felt to be believed.

Everything about the conversion is state-of-the-art. The craftsmanship, down to the self-locking nuts and liberally appointed hiem-joints, is testimony to its racing heritage. Its character is reminiscent of the finely tuned Alpinas, Hartages, and other high-performance gray-market cars that made it in the window of opportunity left open by sleeping legislators. But the spec box only tells half the story.

The other half comes from the Banzai experience that Worth is gladly willing to share with serious buyers who fly into Fort Lauderdale International Airport. For those power junkies who never seem to be able to get enough power, brakes, or handling, Pettit Racing's ride back to the shop will be burned into memory forever. Try it, it's a ride well worth the plane ticket.



3 Rotors
2 Sequential Turbochargers
2.0 Liters
550 HP @ 7500 RPM
460 Lb-Ft @ 5500 RPM
to
propel
2735 Pounds of Canyon-Carving, Freeway-Dissecting, Corner-Chomping, Pop-Your-Eyeballs-Out-Braking, Two-Seat-Heaven RX-7



The Banzai Edition RX-7 utilizes a 20B three rotor twin turbocharged engine which produces 550 Hp, propelling the Banzai to light speed in a flash. The Banzai is fitted with a huge custom built front mount intercooler, hi flow radiator, and retro fit air conditioning condenser to handle the extra cooling needs. A special computer-designed subframe fits the 20B power plant perfectly into the RX-7 engine bay and allows easy access to all components for service. A custom Digital Management System provides unsurpassed drive ability and unbelievable performance without all of the spaghetti wiring of the factory system. A TKT Stainless Steel Exhaust System gives it the perfect note. Special Trak-Pro suspension and brake systems handle the extra performance with ease. Power is transferred to the ground via Bridgestone Potenza S-02 225/40ZR18 front and 285/35ZR18 rear tires mounted on beautiful 18" x 8.5" front and 18" x 10" rear Forgeline LS web design wheels.

Pettit Racing's products have established a firm foothold in the RX-7 performance and accessory market for the average RX-7 owner as well as the true enthusiast. In order to maintain our position as an industry leader, Pettit Racing actively competes in professional road and drag racing. Since 1980, Pettit Racing has won 5 road racing championships, set several track records, and competed in countless drag races. Our quickest quarter mile has been 10.855 seconds. In the 1996 Rolex 24 Hours of Daytona, our car competed in the world class event on DOT street tires, finishing a respectable 11th place in the S2 class and more recently took 3rd place in the S2 class at the Sebring sports car race in October 1997. Pettit's 3rd gen RX-7 finished in 5th place in the S2 class at the 1998 Rolex 24 Hours of Daytona For more information, or to place an order, please call (954) 563-6064.






FACTS
Pettit Racing RX-7 Banzai Edition


Chassis:
Two door, Space-Monocoque steel, welded body, with aluminum hood.

Dementions (in inches):
Wheelbase - 95.5
Length - 168.5
Width - 68.9
Height - 48.4
Ground Clearance - 4.0
Curb Weight - 2740 pounds
Turning Circle - 35.4 feet

Suspension:
Trak-Pro springs, GAB 8-way adjustable shocks, Trak-Pro Super Street anti-sway bar

Brakes:
Front and Rear - Cross-drilled and ventilated 11.6 inch diameter sport rotors with metallic pads
Front - 4 piston
Rear - Single piston, floating caliper

 

I've read that, but I wanted personal experience. Not what a website/company blows it up to be. I'm very sure that the car is insanely fast, however personal experience is a great deal different from word of mouth. Also, I was hoping to find out something about the price of it. I'm expecting around $35,000 or so. Maybe higher, but I'm not sure. That's why I've asked about it.

 

Are you really trying to go with a 20b cause i might now of someone selling there for a hell of a deal! Let me know and sorry to see you your out of SC!! How they treat you good cause my boy just got sent out to some **** hole too!

 

Hey just a comment but my mech worked at Pettit for years and years. He broke away from Pettit and started his own shop-ASIRacing.com. He built and help build almost all the 3 rotors that cam out of Pettit, as he was also the mechanic on their drag car when it did a 9.8x i beleive(That car hasnt been back into the 9s since he left about 2 years ago) anyway if your going to do it you may just want to hit him up first. Info is on the website.

 

I find it hard to beleive 550HP out of the stock 20B sequential setup...I have been in 20B with stock twins in parallel and it was a disappointment after sitting in one with the T-66

Does anyone know what EMS pettit uses on the banzai? What do they mean by retro fitting a/c and does anyone know where they place the condenser with the FMIC?

 

i believe they use the link system

mike

 

From what I understand the stock twins are upgraded and run non seq with custom turbo outlet pipes with no flapper valves or **** to restrict flow. Makes a huge differance! Whos 20b did you ride in? Was it a Pettit Banzai?

 

Does anyone have any idea of a price range for Pettit to do their Banzai package? That will be one of the biggest considerations in wether I go with them or go with someone like ASI Racing or Rotor Sports Racing. Just wondering. I'm hoping to hear something, I know that Pettit won't tell me anything unless I fly down there with a deposit check in hand. Laterz.

Zach

 

I'm sure if you either go down there or talk to cam on the phone the price would be very nego. It also depends on what he has going on at the moment . That price tag on the website is to deter all the dreamers. Money talks speacially 30 big ones.

 

Pettit charges $30,000 to do the Banzai conversion

 

I have only seen the Link in the various Banzai propaganda pictures, but I know that they also sell the E6K and Wolf3D, so I think it is possible that they have used, or are willing to use, other computers to run the 20B.

I think you should understand that if Pettit spent all their time with 20B wanna-be's, they would go out of business. If you can prove that you have the money, they will talk to you. The thing is, hardly anybody has over $30,000 in their checking account, so they are going to assume that you are just some kid with lofty dreams. If you actually have that much money in your checking account, you should also have the business savvy to deal with Pettit.

The last quote I got from Pettit was $39,820, which included the rebuilt engine and rebuilt turbos, 120hrs of labor, and most of the parts and pieces mentioned in the Sport Compact Car article. However, as previously mentioned, Pettit pricing is flexible, especially on package deals.

Pettit Banzai articles:
http://www.geocities.com/evilaviator/banzai1
http://www.turbomagazine.com/features/0207tur_shape/

 

Thats amazing your telling me the price has gone up almost $10000 in the last 31/2 yrs since I worked there.Before they moved into there new location in West Palm the quote was that they started at$30k. Since I am not the favorite incoming call any more could someone please verify this price because this difference seems almost absurd unless there has been some major changes that equal the difference in $'s.I cant imagine them doing this and I would hate to scare people with a price that sounds like it was a mistake or maybe it's just the cost of living has gone upthat much!
And toclarify the engine management question they do and always have used Link.

 

Thanks for all the info guys. However, in light of recent events I found that I'll be able to make the same amount of power out of a 13B-REW. And I see no reason to put up that kind of money when there would still be upgrades that I would have to do to get the car where I want it. i.e. scrapping the twins for a single. But like I said, thanks again everyone for your help. Laterz.

Zach

 

550HP and the 1/4mile in mid 11's, it must be rated at the crank or they were using street tires. 550RWHP in an FD should get you mid to high 10's considering the 2750lb weight they listed after the conversion. $40,000 + paying for an FD, thats more than its costing for my Turbo Supra project.

 

However, you have to remember how much more care it takes to make a true 1/4 mile monster out of an FD. Supras can really take a beating when it comes to abuse of raw boosting where a rotary can't. But still, that is more than the package you're getting is worth. $25K to $30K plus buying the FD would be a feasible price IF it came with a nice sized single and not a set of twins!! Just my .02 though.

 

I think its possibly cheaper to run 10's in an FD than run 10's in a Supra, not that many Supras are making 10's despite the HP they are running. I think 10's is possible with possibly possibly 15K in an FD, where as a lot of people with twice that much in their supras are happy running low 11's. I think a lot of it has to do with driver skill. Thats why I am getting a Boost Logic built Automatic tranny, and I am setting aside 30K to build the engine. Supras might be able to take a beating with boost, but look at all the stuff you have to upgrade that you dont on an FD, cam gears, electric fans, ARP stud, fuel kits cost twice as much, plus if you want to make the real power you need to have a fully built engine, rods, pistons, cams, crank, all this can add up to $13,000-$18,000 in additional engine parts you dont need on a rotary. I think the Banzai is a good basis, but 40K for stock twins? Your going to need to spend 5K+ to convert it to single turbo, but its going to be a hell of a machine after that.

 

Even if the 550 is at the flywheel that would translate into enough to run 10's. You have to remember the car is setup more as a road race type car. Look at all the suspension and brake **** it comes with. Its not set up for drag racing and I doubt with that set up it cuts the 60 foot times needed to get into the 10's with 550hp. It would need to cut 1.5-1.60 range 60 foot times, which is definatly do able with the right set up and slicks

STEPHEN

 

I can tell you from experience that it takes less than 400 HP run 9.9 (super gas) with a 2250 pound car.

The better your suspension, the better your times. The rx7 has a crappy suspension for drag racing. The rx was made to go around corners, not straight.

 

Bermuda, you're wrong on that one. The 7 is a great drag car after you take care of the few weak points that it has in launching. While in stock trim it is better suited for a road racer, with a few mods it will tear up the drag strip just as good as any other J Spec GT car.

While I'd love to have the 20B setup, I've found that I can run the numbers that I need to get into the 10's with a 13B-REW and a nice single. However, the Banzai isn't totally out of consideration since there is another source to get one built away from Pettit. We'll just have to see I guess.

 

Dude, I am not going to get into a pissing contest but the rx is a road racer, not a drag racer.

I got my first super gas car in 1982. We built a tube frame car monza to min super gas weight, put in a slightly modified 340 dodge TA engine, chevy power glide tranny and a ford 9" rear end and away we went. With few exceptions, a car is either made to go fast straight, or fast around corners....you don't get both.

A 400 hp rx will not go into the 9's pure and simple..why because they are not drag cars. You can build anything to go fast but you have to be realistic about what you are starting with.

Here is a racing formula for you to figure out. You have 3 factors for racing, speed, cost, or reliability. You only get to pick two so what do you want.