NHRA Rule Change!!!!!!!!
#1
NHRA Rule Change!!!!!!!!
Changes in the all-motor class rules favors the FWD's again.
The FWD's now can weigh 25lbs less where as the RWD's running clutchless transmissions(basically everyone) now have to add 50lbs. It's not like they changed the minimum weight in the RWD's by adding 50lbs but they targeted all the clutchless transmisson cars by adding mandatory weight. So everyone have to add 50lbs no matter what their minimum weight was!
Less weight plus they can use dry-sumps and air-pumps now is sure going to favor the FWD's.
I guess the Mopar Team was tired of getting beat up by a couple of old-school RWD's rotaries!
The FWD's now can weigh 25lbs less where as the RWD's running clutchless transmissions(basically everyone) now have to add 50lbs. It's not like they changed the minimum weight in the RWD's by adding 50lbs but they targeted all the clutchless transmisson cars by adding mandatory weight. So everyone have to add 50lbs no matter what their minimum weight was!
Less weight plus they can use dry-sumps and air-pumps now is sure going to favor the FWD's.
I guess the Mopar Team was tired of getting beat up by a couple of old-school RWD's rotaries!
Last edited by crispeed; 07-24-03 at 11:29 PM.
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it's not that everyone's against the rotaries per se, it's just that it's becoming too difficult for the fwd cars to compete against the rwd cars. that's the reason why nhra split up all the fwd and rwd cars into separate classes last year. they would've done the same to all motor, but there aren't enough rwd all motor cars to fill up a field. this is their way to try and level playing field as much as possible in a class w/ both fwd and rwd cars.
#6
Originally posted by KNONFS
WHY?!?!?
That is my question, is it something against the rotary engine?
Are the mopar guys realy complaining?
WHY?!?!?
That is my question, is it something against the rotary engine?
Are the mopar guys realy complaining?
In the past, rotaries have become non-competitive in different forms of racing because of increasing handicaps.
Jack
#7
Originally posted by kabooski
Yep
rotaries just to have to find more power
BTW Kilo found some very nice HP gaines when he went to the dyno after the Orlando Race
Yep
rotaries just to have to find more power
BTW Kilo found some very nice HP gaines when he went to the dyno after the Orlando Race
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#9
Originally posted by Trout2
If Mopar is a series sponsor, their complaints may be listened to. This happens in all forms of motorsports - "give us our way or we pull our sponsorship".
In the past, rotaries have become non-competitive in different forms of racing because of increasing handicaps.
Jack
If Mopar is a series sponsor, their complaints may be listened to. This happens in all forms of motorsports - "give us our way or we pull our sponsorship".
In the past, rotaries have become non-competitive in different forms of racing because of increasing handicaps.
Jack
#10
Originally posted by fdracer
it's not that everyone's against the rotaries per se, it's just that it's becoming too difficult for the fwd cars to compete against the rwd cars. that's the reason why nhra split up all the fwd and rwd cars into separate classes last year. they would've done the same to all motor, but there aren't enough rwd all motor cars to fill up a field. this is their way to try and level playing field as much as possible in a class w/ both fwd and rwd cars.
it's not that everyone's against the rotaries per se, it's just that it's becoming too difficult for the fwd cars to compete against the rwd cars. that's the reason why nhra split up all the fwd and rwd cars into separate classes last year. they would've done the same to all motor, but there aren't enough rwd all motor cars to fill up a field. this is their way to try and level playing field as much as possible in a class w/ both fwd and rwd cars.
#11
Originally posted by Street King
Well **** that's their problem if they wanted to choose FWD cars. BS!
Well **** that's their problem if they wanted to choose FWD cars. BS!
dont cry about it. you chose it.... is my opinion 100%
#12
Originally posted by madaz07
like in le mans wher they changed the rules basically banning the 787b cuz it whooped their asses
like in le mans wher they changed the rules basically banning the 787b cuz it whooped their asses
#13
Originally posted by 911GT2
They did the same to the Porsche 917. it guzzled gas like nobody's business, (twin turbo, high revving, high boost, flat-12 ) so they added a gas tank size limit that basically reduced the car to a few laps per tank. Bastards.
They did the same to the Porsche 917. it guzzled gas like nobody's business, (twin turbo, high revving, high boost, flat-12 ) so they added a gas tank size limit that basically reduced the car to a few laps per tank. Bastards.
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Originally posted by rxrotary2_7
EXACTLY!!! thats what i was just going to say but got to your post and you already said it.
dont cry about it. you chose it.... is my opinion 100%
EXACTLY!!! thats what i was just going to say but got to your post and you already said it.
dont cry about it. you chose it.... is my opinion 100%
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I think that the drag racing sanctioning bodies should make everything fair for every type of car. The reason why they are doing this is that the FWD cars are what the majority of the fans want to see . This sucks but it is true. Rotaries are cool but since there are relatively few (compared to honda's anyways) cars that are running rotaries on the track, or the street, they need to market the scene towards those other people.
The reason why I know this is that I am into the old-school vw scene. the vw bugs are scarce in the drag racing scene because the NHRA and the IDRC don't want the vw's to win. plain and simple. there are not enough people out there that want to see a vw win. This sucks. What the sanctioning bodies did was put a weight limit on the vws at 1800lbs (50lbs heavier than stock) to keep the times down. So now the v-dubs are in the high 10's (all motor) where they run mid to low 9's in the PRA (which is the vw sanctioned drag racing series). AS you know, the all motor hondas are in the low 10's. HOW ARE WE GOING TO KEEP THIS SPORT COMPETITIVE IF THIS KEEPS GOING ON???
I bet in a few years you will need a red honda to be competitive, because the blue one will have a weight penalty because people like the red one better.
The reason why I know this is that I am into the old-school vw scene. the vw bugs are scarce in the drag racing scene because the NHRA and the IDRC don't want the vw's to win. plain and simple. there are not enough people out there that want to see a vw win. This sucks. What the sanctioning bodies did was put a weight limit on the vws at 1800lbs (50lbs heavier than stock) to keep the times down. So now the v-dubs are in the high 10's (all motor) where they run mid to low 9's in the PRA (which is the vw sanctioned drag racing series). AS you know, the all motor hondas are in the low 10's. HOW ARE WE GOING TO KEEP THIS SPORT COMPETITIVE IF THIS KEEPS GOING ON???
I bet in a few years you will need a red honda to be competitive, because the blue one will have a weight penalty because people like the red one better.
#17
The only people that are always complaining are the FWD people. They even protest their fellow FWD racers!
The fact is that the RWD's always get the penality. The faster they go they always find an excuse to change the rules. The FWD's get quicker too but the rules are changed to benefit them. For those that still believe that the FWD's still cannot set up the suspension to match the RWD's with the present rules have not actually ran or raced against the real fast cars!.
For example their 60ft's match and beat the RWD's! They are making the same or more horsepower but still they are allowed to weigh less. Erick Aguillar consistenlty get 1.37 60ft's and is making 350whp but weighs 1500lbs. Most of the RWD racers don't mind the weight difference but they should not have to pay for the other racers lack of knowledge to keep up with the true leaders of import racers who have been doing it long before any FWD car was even thought of as been used for drag racing. Ken Scheepers once told me he doesn't mind if the FWD's get the weight breaks but don't keep adding weight to the RWD's to make it even.
The fact is that the RWD's always get the penality. The faster they go they always find an excuse to change the rules. The FWD's get quicker too but the rules are changed to benefit them. For those that still believe that the FWD's still cannot set up the suspension to match the RWD's with the present rules have not actually ran or raced against the real fast cars!.
For example their 60ft's match and beat the RWD's! They are making the same or more horsepower but still they are allowed to weigh less. Erick Aguillar consistenlty get 1.37 60ft's and is making 350whp but weighs 1500lbs. Most of the RWD racers don't mind the weight difference but they should not have to pay for the other racers lack of knowledge to keep up with the true leaders of import racers who have been doing it long before any FWD car was even thought of as been used for drag racing. Ken Scheepers once told me he doesn't mind if the FWD's get the weight breaks but don't keep adding weight to the RWD's to make it even.
#18
Originally posted by fdracer
they need to protect the diversity in the sport, that's the heart of import drag racing. you also can't just ignore the fwd, they started this whole import craze and they are the most prevalent cars at the track.
they need to protect the diversity in the sport, that's the heart of import drag racing. you also can't just ignore the fwd, they started this whole import craze and they are the most prevalent cars at the track.
Originally posted by fdracer
actually the people that cry and complain the most are the rotaries, because they haven't been able to keep up w/ the piston engines. complaining mostly from abel is what forced v8's into their own class, and ultimately into extinction.
actually the people that cry and complain the most are the rotaries, because they haven't been able to keep up w/ the piston engines. complaining mostly from abel is what forced v8's into their own class, and ultimately into extinction.
Last edited by KNONFS; 07-30-03 at 01:21 PM.
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Originally posted by KNONFS
That might be true in LA, but not in the east coast....OLD school is how we call it on this side of the states
That might be true in LA, but not in the east coast....OLD school is how we call it on this side of the states
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