crispeed

Changes in the all-motor class rules favors the FWD's again.
The FWD's now can weigh 25lbs less where as the RWD's running clutchless transmissions(basically everyone) now have to add 50lbs. It's not like they changed the minimum weight in the RWD's by adding 50lbs but they targeted all the clutchless transmisson cars by adding mandatory weight. So everyone have to add 50lbs no matter what their minimum weight was!
Less weight plus they can use dry-sumps and air-pumps now is sure going to favor the FWD's.
I guess the Mopar Team was tired of getting beat up by a couple of old-school RWD's rotaries!

kabooski

Yep

rotaries just to have to find more power

BTW Kilo found some very nice HP gaines when he went to the dyno after the Orlando Race

KNONFS

iTrader: (14)

WHY?!?!?

That is my question, is it something against the rotary engine?

Are the mopar guys realy complaining?

drago86

probably a stupid question, but why would you want to run an air pump?

fdracer

it's not that everyone's against the rotaries per se, it's just that it's becoming too difficult for the fwd cars to compete against the rwd cars. that's the reason why nhra split up all the fwd and rwd cars into separate classes last year. they would've done the same to all motor, but there aren't enough rwd all motor cars to fill up a field. this is their way to try and level playing field as much as possible in a class w/ both fwd and rwd cars.

Trout2

iTrader: (5)

If Mopar is a series sponsor, their complaints may be listened to. This happens in all forms of motorsports - "give us our way or we pull our sponsorship".

In the past, rotaries have become non-competitive in different forms of racing because of increasing handicaps.

Jack

RX794

Hehehehehe, I can't wait till the NA Rotary guys start using Renesis motors in their setups, then the piston guys will REALLY be complaining and crying like the little way too sponsored bitches that they are(specifically the Mopar guys).

RX794

I love it when big dollar, money mongering, corporate sponsored teams get beat by the little guys.

madaz07

like in le mans wher they changed the rules basically banning the 787b cuz it whooped their asses

Street King

Well **** that's their problem if they wanted to choose FWD cars. BS!

rxrotary2_7

EXACTLY!!! thats what i was just going to say but got to your post and you already said it.
dont cry about it. you chose it.... is my opinion 100%

911GT2

They did the same to the Porsche 917. it guzzled gas like nobody's business, (twin turbo, high revving, high boost, flat-12 ) so they added a gas tank size limit that basically reduced the car to a few laps per tank. Bastards.

RICE RACING

Those cars sucked down more "juice" than a Japanesse bukkake freak

fdracer

they need to protect the diversity in the sport, that's the heart of import drag racing. you also can't just ignore the fwd, they started this whole import craze and they are the most prevalent cars at the track. actually the people that cry and complain the most are the rotaries, because they haven't been able to keep up w/ the piston engines. complaining mostly from abel is what forced v8's into their own class, and ultimately into extinction. technically the 3 rotor has never been in a sports car or a compact car, but the nhra allows it because they need to make provisions for rotary owners. look at the modified class, a 2 rotor has the lowest min. weight requirements. the same rules that protect fwd's also protect rotaries. special treatment to level the playing field cuts both ways.

zenjoe

I think that the drag racing sanctioning bodies should make everything fair for every type of car. The reason why they are doing this is that the FWD cars are what the majority of the fans want to see . This sucks but it is true. Rotaries are cool but since there are relatively few (compared to honda's anyways) cars that are running rotaries on the track, or the street, they need to market the scene towards those other people.

The reason why I know this is that I am into the old-school vw scene. the vw bugs are scarce in the drag racing scene because the NHRA and the IDRC don't want the vw's to win. plain and simple. there are not enough people out there that want to see a vw win. This sucks. What the sanctioning bodies did was put a weight limit on the vws at 1800lbs (50lbs heavier than stock) to keep the times down. So now the v-dubs are in the high 10's (all motor) where they run mid to low 9's in the PRA (which is the vw sanctioned drag racing series). AS you know, the all motor hondas are in the low 10's. HOW ARE WE GOING TO KEEP THIS SPORT COMPETITIVE IF THIS KEEPS GOING ON???

I bet in a few years you will need a red honda to be competitive, because the blue one will have a weight penalty because people like the red one better.

RX794

This might be off the subject here, but wtf is up with Steph Papdakis running 6's before Abel?

crispeed

The only people that are always complaining are the FWD people. They even protest their fellow FWD racers!
The fact is that the RWD's always get the penality. The faster they go they always find an excuse to change the rules. The FWD's get quicker too but the rules are changed to benefit them. For those that still believe that the FWD's still cannot set up the suspension to match the RWD's with the present rules have not actually ran or raced against the real fast cars!.
For example their 60ft's match and beat the RWD's! They are making the same or more horsepower but still they are allowed to weigh less. Erick Aguillar consistenlty get 1.37 60ft's and is making 350whp but weighs 1500lbs. Most of the RWD racers don't mind the weight difference but they should not have to pay for the other racers lack of knowledge to keep up with the true leaders of import racers who have been doing it long before any FWD car was even thought of as been used for drag racing. Ken Scheepers once told me he doesn't mind if the FWD's get the weight breaks but don't keep adding weight to the RWD's to make it even.

KNONFS

iTrader: (14)

That might be true in LA, but not in the east coast....OLD school is how we call it on this side of the states
I don't know about Abel, but I do know about other roatry racers that don't get the attention, respect, etc that they deserve (by NHRA)

fdracer

don't get it twisted, we had old school import drag cars when they were still new school. what i meant about import craze is the "fast and the furious" crowd, the hondas with the huge aluminum wings, etc. anyway, if the fields get big enough, the nhra will split up all motor into rwd and fwd, so we can all stop complaining. in the meantime the nhra isn't just going to sit around and let rwd's dominate. rules are changed all the time by motorsport sanctioning bodies to help the slowest guys, look at nascar. sometimes you just have to give people w/ inferior setups a break or else you end up w/ everyone having the exact same car and engine. you lose all the diversity from all the different cars out there. that's what's happening in the pro classes now and it sucks. you used see turbo only cars and nitrous only cars, you had rotaries, 4cyl., and 6cyl. cars. now if you don't have a turbo 6cyl you can't even be competitive.