More Abuse on the car: Drag racing or road racing?
07-21-03 | 08:02 PM
#27
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Originally posted by RICE RACING
Yes that is why i laugh my **** of every day thinking about how far behind drag racers realy are compared to serious circuit guys.
Think...
F1, 20 years ago they made over 850bhp @10000rpm in race trim (engine that lasts 300+km) from 1.5lt of capacity and a factory production BMW 4 cyl engine block on petroleum based fuel NO NOS. And over 1000bhp for durations of a qualifying session (up to 30km distace)
Drag racers with NOS, methanol, and 3km life engines (in some cases) ! cant approach anywhere near these power levels (bhp per liter) when you look at the technology available today compared to 1983 it makes you wonder how long it will take drag guys to catch up
Then when you think those same cars (BMW stock engine block) 2 years later made over 1300bhp in qualifiying it makes you realy see that drag guys just are so far behind the 8 ball its plain crazy, yet their **** still struggles to last ... very funny
Yes that is why i laugh my **** of every day thinking about how far behind drag racers realy are compared to serious circuit guys.
Think...
F1, 20 years ago they made over 850bhp @10000rpm in race trim (engine that lasts 300+km) from 1.5lt of capacity and a factory production BMW 4 cyl engine block on petroleum based fuel NO NOS. And over 1000bhp for durations of a qualifying session (up to 30km distace)
Drag racers with NOS, methanol, and 3km life engines (in some cases) ! cant approach anywhere near these power levels (bhp per liter) when you look at the technology available today compared to 1983 it makes you wonder how long it will take drag guys to catch up
Then when you think those same cars (BMW stock engine block) 2 years later made over 1300bhp in qualifiying it makes you realy see that drag guys just are so far behind the 8 ball its plain crazy, yet their **** still struggles to last ... very funny
If you wanna email that BMW spec shizz to someone id love to see it... im BMW crazy
maccoretti@hotmail.com id really appreciate it.
(take a day or to so dont panic !)
07-21-03 | 09:46 PM
#29
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Joined: Sep 2002
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From: Dousman, WI
Hey Peter, I'd like a copy of that too, if you don't mind. kenku@gmx.net
Oh, to all of you that says F1 doesn't break stuff... watch the Jaguars, for example. Okay, that's mean.
For my view, I can't help but believe that the top fuel boys at least would be able to make a lot more power more reliably if they weren't so rules handicapped; same for the rest of the big drag cars. I mean, they *HAVE* to run pushrod engines! The fact that they can keep them together at those kind of revs at all is pretty amazing to me. I mean, they are running around the same specific power outputs as the cute little BMW mill, but with technology that is, for the most part, even older.
Drag is definitely harder on driveline bits, but doing road racing you'll break new and creative things that you'd have never suspected *could* break.
Oh, to all of you that says F1 doesn't break stuff... watch the Jaguars, for example.
Okay, that's mean.For my view, I can't help but believe that the top fuel boys at least would be able to make a lot more power more reliably if they weren't so rules handicapped; same for the rest of the big drag cars. I mean, they *HAVE* to run pushrod engines! The fact that they can keep them together at those kind of revs at all is pretty amazing to me. I mean, they are running around the same specific power outputs as the cute little BMW mill, but with technology that is, for the most part, even older.
Drag is definitely harder on driveline bits, but doing road racing you'll break new and creative things that you'd have never suspected *could* break.
Last edited by Kenku; 07-21-03 at 09:49 PM.
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