i saw this guy w/ white souped up fd in forum, had ugly conversion, but his engine sounds evil!!! i loveeeed it!!

where can i find egines like that??

how much horse does 4 rotor pump out w/ out any mod??

n how much horse does 3 rotor pump out w/ out any mod??

4 rotor sounds very interesting......

 

dreaming is fun aint it.

on the reality side. if you got bank for it, more power to you.

 

LOL!

 

lets just say that realistically, a 4-rotor would cost you easily upwards of $100-125km just for the fact that many parts have to be custom made.

 

Like what?

Mazda never made a production 4-rotor engine, so technically, there isn't such a thing as an "unmodified" 4-rotor engine. Given that, the performance depends on how you build it, and how you tune it. Here is the Mazda race 4-rotor engine, called the R26B (Downing Atlanta has them all, and good luck getting them to sell you one).
http://www.mymazdarotary.com/mazda_r...paper_html.htm

Mazda says the production 20B-REW peaks at 276bhp @ 6500rpm at about 10psi boost. This is in full emissions form, of course, and many people think that Mazda fudged the dyno numbers a bit to make the engine look less powerful. It was only available in the JC Cosmo:
http://www.dmrh.com.au/

Mazda also made race-only non-turbo peripheral-port 3-rotor engines, called the "13G" and "20B Race", which made about 475-500 HP.
http://members.rogers.com/sofronov/C...otary/20B.html

Outside of the US you could get a custom 4-rotor for much less. It wouldn't be as good as the R26B, but it would have 4 rotors and it would run.

 

mercedes benz made a production 4-rotor "Mercedes Benz MB C111"

 

http://www.mercedes-sl.de/baureihe.htm
Loosely translated, "ging jedoch nicht in Serie" = did not however go into production. Therefore, it was only a prototype.

http://www.der-wankelmotor.de/Motore...s_c111-ge.html
The chassis numbers are listed near the bottom of the page. They started with number 21, and went to number 36, for a total of 13 chassis (apparently some numbers were skipped). Chassis number 24a was a Version 1 chassis with a Version II body. Numbers 21, 22, and 25 were scrapped, number 24 was totalled in Hockenheim, and the others are in museums.

 

for those interested I am selling my 34 rotor crank and associated parts.

I have a crank (two 13B cranks) that was made/modified by the guy here in NZ that manufactires 3 and 4 rotor cranks.
end plates, the modified plate and stationary gears for the extar rotors, through bolts.
also the sump bolts have been replaced with studs so that a plate can be fitted to act as a girdle sort of.

asking $4000NZ

 

hey man check this site out

http://www.monito.com/wankel/mercedes.html

this will explain what i was tryin to say

 

I still don't understand what you are trying to say. How about if you just say it?

From the monito site:
Rotary Cars: Prototype, Concept, and Racing
60 NSU road test disgsd Prinz sedan, 250cc, Motor Trend May 1960
62 NSU road test disgsd Prinz sedan, 250cc, 11,000 rpm max, 45 bhp
63 NSU Sport Prinz with 400cc, 51hp, VW gearbox, 100mph MT Feb63.
63 Mazda Cosmo August, shown Oct. Tokyo Motor Show.
65 Mazda R16A, 4-rotor, 1 unit.
? NSU Spider 2-rotor.
67 Mazda RX87 Tokyo Motor Show, original designation of R130.
Mazda RX85 Tokyo Motor Show, original designation of R100
69 Mercedes C111 (initially C101) 3-rotor gullwing.
70 Mercedes C111 (initially C101) 4-rotor gullwing, 16 made, 186 mph
70s Mercedes 2-rotor sedan prototype
70 Mazda EX005 Wankel drives electric motor. Urban vehicle.

FYI, "Prototype, Concept, and Racing" cars are not "production".

 

You left out the mid-engine Corvette prototypes. They made both a 2 rotor and a four. :-)

 

ok man i give u props u proved me wrong, but they do make production 4-rotor boats. im sure of that

 

I seen a r26b sell one time for around 25k ... it was a CORE!!! not ran for YEARS god only knows if it was blown up or not... a few people have BUILT THEM but your talking lots of time and money to do it your self or to have someone else do it for that matter... in all reality I dont really see whats ammater with a 13b OR the 20b both of them can put out some SERIOUS poneys under heavy boost...

 

White FD... Ugly "Bodykit"... 4 Rotor...

He's talking about the Scoot 4 Rotor Democar. It was in the interior/exterior/audio forum w/ a topic relating to headlights. It was a custom made from 12A parts.

 

FYI, over here in australia a panel shop has built a quad-rotor powered BMW M3 drag car.

Not sure if it will ever make a pass, as it looks pretty much like a show car that will never be started or driven, but still, it could prove interesting.

 

I think that 4 rotor Bimmer has been run now. I could be wrong, but I think I've seen a picture of that car during a launch on the strip.

hmmm,,,,,,,yep, got some pics. I guess it was shown a few times before they raced it, mabye to build some mystery into the car.

I don't remember the times, but it was damn respectable to say the least.

Anybody else have any more info on the ride?

Inspiration for us all, I'm sure!@

|M|

 

34-rotor? Wow! What a f**king monster!

 

what the hell does Km turn into with dollars? The cost is going to depend on what grade you want it to be and what resources you have. For example, if have access to any machine device, costs will be cheap but you will be putting in loads and loads and loads and loads and loads and loads of work. Or it can cost as much as you can spend.

 

Not quite on topic, but an interesting FYI: I was tallking with Jim Downing at VIR in 2001. At that time, he said that his shop had made a custom 3-rotor at Mazda's request, using '91 rotors (for lightness), 13B-rew housings and a custom driveshaft. Cost was in the $25,000 - $28,000 range. Ouput was 550 hp at 9000 rpm, normally aspirated. This was designed to be a "low-cost" alternative to the 13G.

 

^^^^Man o man^^
We can all dream though right?
that sounds like an incredible piece of machinery
+

 

"FYI, over here in australia a panel shop has built a quad-rotor powered BMW M3 drag car."

Not sure if it will ever make a pass, as it looks pretty much like a show car that will never be started or driven, but still, it could prove interesting."

Geez, anybody with enough housings and some all thread rod to make long tie bolts could slap together a 4 rotor for show that won't run. What a ******.

 

Ok I guess they made an 8 second pass the first time they ran it. It's 4 rotor with 2 oversized chargers, they say it'll push 45 psi boost!! They are expecting around 1000 to 1500 Hp. I don't know if they've had it on a dyno yet.
I guess when they had it at the sydney auto show last year(they won king of show, and firsts in many different areas, like innovation, paint, suspension,engine, engine bay, etc)they didn't put it on the dyno . Mabye it wasn't running as it should at that time. don't know why????
They have put over $200,000.oo into it, so it's not likely to be a tow and show car. IT will indeed be a show car with wild paint, and incredible stereo, etc. but I think they're trying to make a statement with the rotary.

http://www.queenstsmash.com is thier site. Check out the flash site

Here is a Great article about the BMW:
http://www.mazdarotary.net/queenstbmw.htm
gives alot of info, but is an old article.

http://urbanracer.com/idealbb/view.a...EAB4E&pageNo=1
that says alot about the rotary!!!way to go rotary!.

here's something kind on/off subject, but interesting about torque-vs-Hp. found it on a wake boarding forum:
http://wake.com.au/modules.php?name=...106&highlight=
they talk about that bmw.


BTW guys, here is a great tool for looking for info on the rotary.
http://www.rotary-search-engine.com
can search for and find just about anything. It's where I've found all of the above links!

good inspiration fo all of us!

 

BMW video in here http://www.mazdarotary.net

 

man o man
there is a video of that bimmer pulling a 7 sec. Quarter on Queenstsmash's website

link is a few post up ^^^

HOT!

 

who built the red 4 rotor FD that was all over the forum a few months ago-wicked sounding drag video?