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Old 02-04-03 | 06:24 PM
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Flaco Racing...7.04@191!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 02-04-03 | 06:55 PM
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Right on!
Looks like 6's are any time now for Abel.
It says he shut down before the finish line and still managed a 7.04.

Does anyone know why he let up?
Old 02-04-03 | 06:59 PM
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yeah but what're the bullish guys gonna be running next year? i still think the nhra should ban the 3 rotor from competition. they banned the v8's because they weren't indicative of sport compact motors. 3-rotors are even more out of place than v8's. the 3-rotor takes away from the ingenuity of building high hp rotaries. w/ a 2 rotor, there's endless different things that can be done to make power, from different porting, rotor lightening, tuning, etc. the 3-rotor seems like just an easy way out. if the nhra makes the weight handicaps more fair, i think the 2-rotor still has a lot more to go. hell, lingenfelter hit a 6.99 on a 4 cyl.
Old 02-04-03 | 07:13 PM
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You can still do all those mods with a 3-rotor that you can with a 2-rotor, and the guys are already doing them.
A 2-rotor can't be competitive in todays Pro-class... a 900 rwhp 2-rotor (which is it's max hp) won't win a class where you are racing against guys making 1200-1500 rwhp in their cars.
If they remove the 3-rotors, then the 2JZ engines will just walk away with the wins fairly uncontested.
Old 02-04-03 | 07:25 PM
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duh, that's why i said the handicapping has to be more fair. where'd you come up w/ the magical number of 900 max hp for a 2 rotor? no one's even using d-ports or pp's on turbo motors yet.
Old 02-04-03 | 07:35 PM
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I said 900 b/c most of the top guys such as Dyson Rotary and Rafaelito Racing are making high 800's on their 13B's.
And yes... they are using P-ported Turbo engines!
Is a D-port just another name for a Monster port?

I think that 20B and 2JZ are fairly equal in terms of performance potential.

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Old 02-04-03 | 07:39 PM
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3 rotors = 6 cil. all NHRA needs to do is seperate the 4cil class and the 6cil .class for pro import .. 2 rotors in the 4cil. class and the 3 rotors in the 6 cil. class. but the problem is right now there is not enough cars to have full fields of cars on both classes. And let's not forget money. Putting together a seperate pro import class will bring another purse. Right now IDRC did not pay Carlos Montano(pepeloco race car) his championship money(25,000) IDRC said the sponsors or not paying and they told Carlos Montano in a letter to qet a Lawyer and sue them. NHRA has the same problem, they are always trying to get more sponsors in..
Old 02-04-03 | 07:47 PM
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I think Abel among others are probably coming to the end of the line w/ 2 rotor. Wether a 3 rotor is banned or not I think these 3 rotor guys are looking to hit the record books with a "rotary engine" period, which is fine.
I still think that Jesus Pedilla got F'n rob'd by banning his 3 rotor N/A....His accomplishments are just plain cool in my opinion.
Old 02-04-03 | 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by Bridgeported
Right on!
Looks like 6's are any time now for Abel.
It says he shut down before the finish line and still managed a 7.04.

Does anyone know why he let up?
The Vegas track is known to be very dark at night especially at the end and Abel said he could not see so he lifted early.

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Old 02-04-03 | 08:22 PM
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Originally posted by Judge Ito
3 rotors = 6 cil. all NHRA needs to do is seperate the 4cil class and the 6cil .class for pro import .. 2 rotors in the 4cil. class and the 3 rotors in the 6 cil. class. but the problem is right now there is not enough cars to have full fields of cars on both classes. And let's not forget money. Putting together a seperate pro import class will bring another purse. Right now IDRC did not pay Carlos Montano(pepeloco race car) his championship money(25,000) IDRC said the sponsors or not paying and they told Carlos Montano in a letter to qet a Lawyer and sue them. NHRA has the same problem, they are always trying to get more sponsors in..
yeah that's exactly what needs to be done. the nhra caters puts too much emphasis on supporting fwd cars. it's an absolute travesty that unibody rwd and awd don't even have a class to compete in for championship points. due to lack of money and competing cars, the next best thing is to do is implement a fairer weight penalty system. i'm still of the opinion that the 3-rotor is not a sport compact motor, it's never even been in a factory sports car or a compact car. v8's have come in all sorts of sports cars, yet it was still banned. while they're at it they need to ban the big displacement v-6's too, like what mihovetz is running. they need to cap piston displacement at something like 3.2 liters.
Old 02-04-03 | 08:36 PM
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Originally posted by Judge Ito
3 rotors = 6 cil. all NHRA needs to do is seperate the 4cil class and the 6cil .class for pro import .. 2 rotors in the 4cil. class and the 3 rotors in the 6 cil. class. but the problem is right now there is not enough cars to have full fields of cars on both classes. And let's not forget money. Putting together a seperate pro import class will bring another purse. Right now IDRC did not pay Carlos Montano(pepeloco race car) his championship money(25,000) IDRC said the sponsors or not paying and they told Carlos Montano in a letter to qet a Lawyer and sue them. NHRA has the same problem, they are always trying to get more sponsors in..
How do you stroke a Rotary. The problem with a Rotary in any type of racing is how do you classify it. When they are classified, they are no longer competitive because of weight restrictions ECT, ECT. I do agree that it is not fair for a 2 rotor to compete with 3 or stock motor to compete a monster stroker. I don't know much about Import drag racing but it is new and these things will be adressed. I just feel sorry for the guys who have to come up with rules to address these problems. It's a no win situation for everyone

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Old 02-05-03 | 01:01 PM
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Old 02-05-03 | 02:24 PM
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Damn!!! He was almost there!! If he wouldn't have let off he would've definitely ran in the 6's. Oh well, just have to wait a little bit longer.

Originally posted by fdracer
. .....hell, lingenfelter hit a 6.99 on a 4 cyl.
When was this? and in what car? Man I really need to catch up on the drag racing scene......hehehe.
Old 02-05-03 | 02:28 PM
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that is excellent!
Old 02-05-03 | 03:57 PM
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he ran a 6.99 in pomona right before he crashed on the backup pass and went into the coma.

anybody know how he's doing now?
i havent eard any uptades......

Originally posted by Turbo_Rotary
Damn!!! He was almost there!! If he wouldn't have let off he would've definitely ran in the 6's. Oh well, just have to wait a little bit longer.



When was this? and in what car? Man I really need to catch up on the drag racing scene......hehehe.
Old 02-06-03 | 08:02 PM
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BAD NEWS....

Lingenfelter is dead...

I heard from my landlord and he was pretty good friend's with john. He had his z06(twin turbo) built by john.
Old 02-06-03 | 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by enzo250
BAD NEWS....

Lingenfelter is dead...

I heard from my landlord and he was pretty good friend's with john. He had his z06(twin turbo) built by john.
And where did you hear this? His site says that he is in a coma right now - but not dead.
http://www.lingenfelter.com/JLStatus.asp
Old 02-07-03 | 01:20 AM
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Originally posted by enzo250
BAD NEWS....

Lingenfelter is dead...

I heard from my landlord and he was pretty good friend's with john. He had his z06(twin turbo) built by john.
enzo, you gotta be shitting me.....
i think if he died there would have been mention on nhra's site or something, speed news on speed vision....

can anybody confirm this.
damn he was the only ex-V8 guy in import racing that i actually liked. he brought the sport to a whole new level
Old 02-07-03 | 01:32 AM
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i just noticed that the update page on his site is from almost 2 months ago, alot could have happened in that time. i wasn't even aware that he had come out of the first coma. i cant believe he was lively and home with his family, only to be put into another coma because of a reaction to medication?????? i wish they had elaborated on that. might be malpractice...........

can anyone confirm is john is dead or alive?

there is a phone number on his site to call for updates, but its waay to late to call right now
Old 02-07-03 | 04:29 AM
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Damn, that is very bad news. Suprisingly, I hadn't even heard anything about John or the crash or a coma - I don't know where the heck I was when it happened.
Can someone enlighten me on the whole situation, like about the crash, and the details? You can PM or email me if you don't want to pos it; I understand.

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Old 02-07-03 | 10:02 AM
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He's not dead but still recovering. I don't know if he is still in a coma or not. The latest updates were a couple of months ago. There is still a website setup to leave get well card online and people are still posting there everyday.

Bridge: Go check out Summit Racings website or Lingenfelter.com for info on what happened and when.
Old 02-07-03 | 11:47 AM
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it's funny how this **** gets around. i was there when he crashed and i heard from two different people that he was dead w/ 2 completley different stories why. and i heard from a couple other people that he was perfectly fine.
Old 02-07-03 | 11:53 AM
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Checked out both Summit Racing's drag site and Lingenfelter.com - can't find any info..?
Old 02-07-03 | 11:54 AM
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damn, i guess they dont feel like modifying the car to comply with next years rules.

anybody got 100,000??????

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2401776291
Old 02-07-03 | 12:30 PM
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bridge: check this link out for info:
http://www.lingenfelter.com/JLStatus.asp


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