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Old 07-06-03 | 06:58 AM
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Question Engine Managment? Link, Haltech or Others? 4 a Turbo II 13b

Does anyone here know a lot about engine management setups?

I have an RX2 with a 12a setup, right now I just want to get it going but later on (1 year or so) I want to find a 13b and Supra gearbox for a more updated setup.

this of course means I will nead a computer to control the new engine.

What could be considered the best Stand Alone setup for a 13b turbo 2 motor?

I was looking at the LINK ECU from NZ, and the Haltech, but also a few others. The link seems to pack quite a punch and has a ton of upgrades / modules for even more functionality. I really like that feature.

Well anhow let me know or point me in the right direction.

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Old 07-06-03 | 11:51 AM
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There isn't any "best" EMS for the 13BT. It depends on what you like. Every EMS does basically the same thing, but you need to decide how to weight factors like map and injector resolution, SFI vs. batch fire, onboard 2D/3D boost control, datalogging, closed loop control, narrow vs wideband O2 sensor support, hand controller, live software, map storage, rev limiter, turbo timer, Windows vs. DOS, local support, etc.

Since you are in Sacramento, you may want to check out the Wolf3D, because the US distributor is just a few miles away in Rancho Cordova. IMO local support makes a big difference.
http://www.checkpointmotors.net/Prod...ail.asp?pID=13
http://www.wolfems.com.au/home

Most EMS products have a web site where you can download their manual and software to try out the system before you buy. This is nice given the high price tag of an EMS.
Old 07-06-03 | 05:41 PM
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I installed a Wolf3D into an RX2 with 13BT last year.
It worked well, and was a relatively straightforward install. The hardest part was modifying the crank sensor to suit the Wolf, but that is just a matter of gring off most of the teeth on the wheels in the CAS.
The new Microtech LT8 can use the CAS unmodified, along with the stock coils and igniters for a 13BT, and is similar in features to the Wolf.
It comes down to local support, especially for tuning.

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Old 07-06-03 | 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by rotaspec
I installed a Wolf3D into an RX2 with 13BT last year.
It worked well, and was a relatively straightforward install. The hardest part was modifying the crank sensor to suit the Wolf, but that is just a matter of gring off most of the teeth on the wheels in the CAS.
The newest version of the Wolf3D allows the use of the stock, unmodified CAS. It's about time!

Originally posted by rotaspec
The new Microtech LT8 can use the CAS unmodified, along with the stock coils and igniters for a 13BT, and is similar in features to the Wolf.
The LT8 is a slightly lower level product if you look at the core product. Depending on the dealer, the LT8 can sell for about 2/3 the price of a new Wolf, but the LT8 doesn't have 3D boost control or the same level of fine fuel/ignition map and fuel injector resolution. However, which one is better for a particular application depends on individual preference, especailly given the small difference betwen the two with respect to secondary functions and intangibles.

Originally posted by rotaspec
It comes down to local support, especially for tuning.
I agree that this is a major factor. Support by telephone or email is OK for some instances, but there are times when you really need someone to actually look at the installation. For most people on this forum I think it is best to have a professional perform the initial tuning on an EMS.
Old 07-07-03 | 06:55 AM
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i live in NZ, every 2nd workshop has a person with great piles of LINK experience, alot of them will even advise people with link's on rotaries to sell them and buy something else.

Link will run anything, pretty much anything will run anything, but LINK and rotary's are almost like polar and non polar molecules. they dont get along all that well.

I would recoment a Haltech, Microtech, Wolf before i'd recomend a LINK to someone with a rotary. I dunno what prices you guys are paying for LINK's over there but i wouldn't think they'd be much cheaper, if at all compared to the LTX8 microtech.
Old 07-07-03 | 02:01 PM
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There is also a distributor of haltech in rancho cordova california, k2rd.com

I like my e6k but I will probably upgrade to an e11 soon
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There is also a distributor of haltech in rancho cordova california, k2rd.com

I like my e6k but I will probably upgrade to an e11 soon
That's another good place to check out. The E11 looks like a good product. I didn't realize that K2RD was still tuning after Ted left.
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