Rear Alignment change for 1st gen
#3
i figured. Now i have an extra housing sitting here. What else has to be worked on beside the housing to get camber?? do axles need to be bent or re-welded as well??
What kind of shop should I look for to do this kind of job? I just want -1 camber in the back.
What kind of shop should I look for to do this kind of job? I just want -1 camber in the back.
#4
Usually the ends of the housing are cut off, the entire housing placed in a jig to align it and the ends welded on at the angle you want. Most hot rod/street rod shops do this kind of thing for narrowing rear, but most don't know how to add -camber. You may want to find a local circle track shop - they do this to the Ford rears.
BTW - the GSL-SE rear will accept Mustang jigs and pucks - tell the shop this and they may give it a second look. Most won't touch a "ferin" rear.
BTW - the GSL-SE rear will accept Mustang jigs and pucks - tell the shop this and they may give it a second look. Most won't touch a "ferin" rear.
#5
Originally posted by abeomid
i figured. Now i have an extra housing sitting here. What else has to be worked on beside the housing to get camber?? do axles need to be bent or re-welded as well??
What kind of shop should I look for to do this kind of job? I just want -1 camber in the back.
i figured. Now i have an extra housing sitting here. What else has to be worked on beside the housing to get camber?? do axles need to be bent or re-welded as well??
What kind of shop should I look for to do this kind of job? I just want -1 camber in the back.
I would suggest you drop him an e-mail he may be prepared to 'share' some secrets as you are not direct competition as such :-) And seriously think about buying his floating hub kit, a front runner in Texas and also Trinidad has recently started to run them and appear to be doing very well!
Cheers.
#6
Torches
If you heat metal and allow it to air-cool, it shrinks a little.
Want negative camber? Heat the top of the axle tube.
Want toe-in? Heat the front of the axle tube.
I haven't done this myself (I figure as long as the housing doesn't have toe-out I really don't care) but I'd imagine for best results, do this as close to the middle as possible, for minimal binding.
If you heat metal and allow it to air-cool, it shrinks a little.
Want negative camber? Heat the top of the axle tube.
Want toe-in? Heat the front of the axle tube.
I haven't done this myself (I figure as long as the housing doesn't have toe-out I really don't care) but I'd imagine for best results, do this as close to the middle as possible, for minimal binding.
#7
Originally posted by RX-Midget
BTW - the GSL-SE rear will accept Mustang jigs and pucks - tell the shop this and they may give it a second look. Most won't touch a "ferin" rear.
BTW - the GSL-SE rear will accept Mustang jigs and pucks - tell the shop this and they may give it a second look. Most won't touch a "ferin" rear.
What do you mean by "Mustang"? Mustangs have had Ford 8", 9", 7.5", and 8.8" rears from the factory. Also probably the 6.75" rear during the dark days of the Mustang II.
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#10
In Jim Susko's set up manual for first gens he states that the stock side bearings in the LSD unit can take 1 degree of negative camber. When you have the housing bent you want the bend to be as close to the center as possible, since it is the diff side bearing that will take the brunt of the wear from the change.
I have a couple housings to play with and I plan on making a jig and trying this myself, when the weather gets rainy. I fell ok about putting the housing in a jig and heating it with a torch to make the bends, but I am unsure if the heated metal should then be quenched. If you make the metal hard it can break, left if soft and it will bend. This is the next thing that I am researching in this process.
I have a couple housings to play with and I plan on making a jig and trying this myself, when the weather gets rainy. I fell ok about putting the housing in a jig and heating it with a torch to make the bends, but I am unsure if the heated metal should then be quenched. If you make the metal hard it can break, left if soft and it will bend. This is the next thing that I am researching in this process.
#11
Originally posted by Kill No Cone
In Jim Susko's set up manual for first gens he states that the stock side bearings in the LSD unit can take 1 degree of negative camber. When you have the housing bent you want the bend to be as close to the center as possible, since it is the diff side bearing that will take the brunt of the wear from the change.
I have a couple housings to play with and I plan on making a jig and trying this myself, when the weather gets rainy. I fell ok about putting the housing in a jig and heating it with a torch to make the bends, but I am unsure if the heated metal should then be quenched. If you make the metal hard it can break, left if soft and it will bend. This is the next thing that I am researching in this process.
In Jim Susko's set up manual for first gens he states that the stock side bearings in the LSD unit can take 1 degree of negative camber. When you have the housing bent you want the bend to be as close to the center as possible, since it is the diff side bearing that will take the brunt of the wear from the change.
I have a couple housings to play with and I plan on making a jig and trying this myself, when the weather gets rainy. I fell ok about putting the housing in a jig and heating it with a torch to make the bends, but I am unsure if the heated metal should then be quenched. If you make the metal hard it can break, left if soft and it will bend. This is the next thing that I am researching in this process.
#13
Originally posted by Kill No Cone
Great, who makes the axles with the bullet ends?
Great, who makes the axles with the bullet ends?
I use them on my Gen 1 racer and would never look back now. The difference is fantastic.
Last edited by twister; 07-16-02 at 11:13 PM.
#14
I think finding a local shop that knows what they are doing on the bending and purchasing the floating hubs is the ticket. I found a circle track shop here in Dallas that is very good at bending rear ends. This is probably the way I am going to go on my F prepared Solo car.
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