GT-3 For Sale
#1
GT-3 For Sale
I looked but couldn't find the RX3 section. So here goes.
2002 Run-offs pole sitter/race leader. bridge port, factory dry sump,
factory oil cooler, inconal exhaust, 4 1/2" clutch, Hewland ST trans
w/30+ gear sets, Alcon brakes, 12 Panasports, adjustable bars, etc,
etc, etc. 2 mechanical DNF's in 8 years of ownership. Penske 3 way
adjustable shocks have been installed since last raced (2002 run offs)
Spare body, suspension arms, engine/trans parts etc.
30K or trade for ?????
Mike Pinegar
cell 248 755 9855
home 734 425 6834
2002 Run-offs pole sitter/race leader. bridge port, factory dry sump,
factory oil cooler, inconal exhaust, 4 1/2" clutch, Hewland ST trans
w/30+ gear sets, Alcon brakes, 12 Panasports, adjustable bars, etc,
etc, etc. 2 mechanical DNF's in 8 years of ownership. Penske 3 way
adjustable shocks have been installed since last raced (2002 run offs)
Spare body, suspension arms, engine/trans parts etc.
30K or trade for ?????
Mike Pinegar
cell 248 755 9855
home 734 425 6834
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#8
Mike, as you most likely already know, recovering the costs(50% of them) of building a car like yours will take alot of patience. John Weisberg had to part his 2005 runoffs EP RX7, and he was looking for 20K. Sad, but true, best shot is to trade into the class you want to race in. Problem is anyone with 30K cash is not likely to want an RX3... I love your car, but it will take serious time to sell. Presumably it is listed on all the SCCA, and NASA regional forums, give it time, or part it, those are your choices. Good luck, Carl
#9
Originally Posted by Carl Byck
Mike, as you most likely already know, recovering the costs(50% of them) of building a car like yours will take alot of patience. John Weisberg had to part his 2005 runoffs EP RX7, and he was looking for 20K. Sad, but true, best shot is to trade into the class you want to race in. Problem is anyone with 30K cash is not likely to want an RX3... I love your car, but it will take serious time to sell. Presumably it is listed on all the SCCA, and NASA regional forums, give it time, or part it, those are your choices. Good luck, Carl
I believe John's car was a 2nd gen. There have been 3 first gen EP cars parted out since the runoffs last season. Several of us here have been recipients of many of those parts inculding me. I'm not sure what the answer is. I've been trying to sell my ITA car for almost a year now. I figure I'll just keep it and run a few times a year.
If I had $30k to spend on a race car I would build an RX-8 or something newer. What most people who have never been there discount is the time it takes to build and develop a car.
Good luck selling her.
Paul P. EP07
#12
Mike,
any detail photos for the chassis without the body installed? Interested but not in RX3 trim(sorry). It is a very nice setup, but I would like to see the chassis if possible. post here or email tim@wanaboo.com thanks
any detail photos for the chassis without the body installed? Interested but not in RX3 trim(sorry). It is a very nice setup, but I would like to see the chassis if possible. post here or email tim@wanaboo.com thanks
#13
Originally Posted by mike 25
Plus, it's a tube frame, you can put any body you want on it.
Mazda was going to supply me with a RX8 body, but yhey
never built one.
Mazda was going to supply me with a RX8 body, but yhey
never built one.
My coments above were based on a T2 RX-8, these GT and production classes are too much work, and too much $$. My E car has been kicking my butt. Sometimes SSB looks pretty good.
#15
I figured it was a tub based car. Very nice.
My coments above were based on a T2 RX-8, these GT and production classes are too much work, and too much $$. My E car has been kicking my butt. Sometimes SSB looks pretty good.
A car that has been built to be a racecar from the ground up, is a lot less
maintence than a production car. A prod has to use many production parts
that aren't up to the stresses of racing (been there done that). Also in the
event of a crash, it's alot easier to cut and replace tubes, than to try to straighten
a tub car.
My coments above were based on a T2 RX-8, these GT and production classes are too much work, and too much $$. My E car has been kicking my butt. Sometimes SSB looks pretty good.
A car that has been built to be a racecar from the ground up, is a lot less
maintence than a production car. A prod has to use many production parts
that aren't up to the stresses of racing (been there done that). Also in the
event of a crash, it's alot easier to cut and replace tubes, than to try to straighten
a tub car.
#18
Mike's RX3 is one of the nicest GT cars out there. I have looked closely at it for the past several years at the Runoffs. Yes, it will be hard to get the desired money out of it without parting it, but it is turnkey and you can run up front at any SCCA race.
I am not all that familiar with the internals of the car - only what I can tell from observation - but always felt it was only limited by the RX3 aerodynamics. The thing is damn fast and looks like it handles great. Watching at Mid Ohio, I got a huge kick out of seeing this red brick with 30 year old aero lead cars that were $100k and above (ie, the Toyota's).
Mike, you should market it to the historic / vintaage guys. They have a lot more money than most of us!
Rich
PS - I bought Prather's EP tub when he parted out his RX7.
I am not all that familiar with the internals of the car - only what I can tell from observation - but always felt it was only limited by the RX3 aerodynamics. The thing is damn fast and looks like it handles great. Watching at Mid Ohio, I got a huge kick out of seeing this red brick with 30 year old aero lead cars that were $100k and above (ie, the Toyota's).
Mike, you should market it to the historic / vintaage guys. They have a lot more money than most of us!
Rich
PS - I bought Prather's EP tub when he parted out his RX7.
#21
Quote: "If I had $30k to spend on a race car I would build an RX-8 or something newer."
No offence to you cpa but it pisses me off to no end when I hear some one say that. Why do people think it csts so litle to build a race car? I have built five t2 RX8's to date, each are $40k+ cars. A car like Mikes would cost $60k+ to duplicate and my car would be close to $40. Do you guys think that we would be dumb enough to try and sell these cars for what it would cost to build one?
Rant over sorry for the highjack Mike
No offence to you cpa but it pisses me off to no end when I hear some one say that. Why do people think it csts so litle to build a race car? I have built five t2 RX8's to date, each are $40k+ cars. A car like Mikes would cost $60k+ to duplicate and my car would be close to $40. Do you guys think that we would be dumb enough to try and sell these cars for what it would cost to build one?
Rant over sorry for the highjack Mike
#22
Originally Posted by EProdRx7
Quote: "If I had $30k to spend on a race car I would build an RX-8 or something newer."
No offence to you cpa but it pisses me off to no end when I hear some one say that. Why do people think it csts so litle to build a race car? I have built five t2 RX8's to date, each are $40k+ cars. A car like Mikes would cost $60k+ to duplicate and my car would be close to $40. Do you guys think that we would be dumb enough to try and sell these cars for what it would cost to build one?
Rant over sorry for the highjack Mike
No offence to you cpa but it pisses me off to no end when I hear some one say that. Why do people think it csts so litle to build a race car? I have built five t2 RX8's to date, each are $40k+ cars. A car like Mikes would cost $60k+ to duplicate and my car would be close to $40. Do you guys think that we would be dumb enough to try and sell these cars for what it would cost to build one?
Rant over sorry for the highjack Mike
Maybe cpa doesn't care about being competitive
#23
Originally Posted by EProdRx7
Quote: "If I had $30k to spend on a race car I would build an RX-8 or something newer."
No offence to you cpa but it pisses me off to no end when I hear some one say that. Why do people think it csts so litle to build a race car? I have built five t2 RX8's to date, each are $40k+ cars. A car like Mikes would cost $60k+ to duplicate and my car would be close to $40. Do you guys think that we would be dumb enough to try and sell these cars for what it would cost to build one?
Rant over sorry for the highjack Mike
No offence to you cpa but it pisses me off to no end when I hear some one say that. Why do people think it csts so litle to build a race car? I have built five t2 RX8's to date, each are $40k+ cars. A car like Mikes would cost $60k+ to duplicate and my car would be close to $40. Do you guys think that we would be dumb enough to try and sell these cars for what it would cost to build one?
Rant over sorry for the highjack Mike
On another note, did you part your car out after the runoffs or sell it intact?
#24
Originally Posted by MPM
Maybe cpa doesn't care about being competitive
#25
CPA,
I apologize for the rant but the financial bath I took on my car is still a bit fresh in my mind. I parted the car out and the fact that the shell is still hanging around my shop reminding me of it daily doesn't help. BTW I am trying to bring the remaining parts and a 3/4 built car to the runoffs this year. Hopefully it will sell then.
As for the RX8 figure $27k for the car or if you can find a wrecked one for $17 needing $5k worth of bodywork. Either way it's $25k. Cage that is worth a **** will be $3500-$4000, shocks $5k, MazdaSpeed strut bars, springs and swaybars$1200~ other safety bits and a seat$1500, three sets of wheels $2400, rains and two sets of tires $2200 Plus the labor to put it all together $4-5k and you are over $45k. I did this off the top of my head and this is just what you will need to get on the track. Now if you want to be competitive add in another 7-10 for a pro built motor, $8 for a Motec, $1k each for the trans and rear massage... and double the price of the wheels for the super light ones, and another $5k of labor and you are at close to $75k. It adds up fast! And this is a T2 car! No secrets here. Just the costs of racing.
If I added up all of the $ in my EP car plus running costs it would be well over $100k for the 6 seasons I raced it.
Now I hope this doesn’t scare you off and I wish you luck in getting you car done and on the track soon but please consider the knowledge and the value of the people that have "been there done that". We are not trying to get rich at this. That would be impossible. I do this because cubicles suck and this is what I love. Selling a race car is more an effort to recoup a small percentage of the fortune spent to build the car in the first place. As the old joke goes, “How doe you make a small fortune in racing? Start with a large one!
I apologize for the rant but the financial bath I took on my car is still a bit fresh in my mind. I parted the car out and the fact that the shell is still hanging around my shop reminding me of it daily doesn't help. BTW I am trying to bring the remaining parts and a 3/4 built car to the runoffs this year. Hopefully it will sell then.
As for the RX8 figure $27k for the car or if you can find a wrecked one for $17 needing $5k worth of bodywork. Either way it's $25k. Cage that is worth a **** will be $3500-$4000, shocks $5k, MazdaSpeed strut bars, springs and swaybars$1200~ other safety bits and a seat$1500, three sets of wheels $2400, rains and two sets of tires $2200 Plus the labor to put it all together $4-5k and you are over $45k. I did this off the top of my head and this is just what you will need to get on the track. Now if you want to be competitive add in another 7-10 for a pro built motor, $8 for a Motec, $1k each for the trans and rear massage... and double the price of the wheels for the super light ones, and another $5k of labor and you are at close to $75k. It adds up fast! And this is a T2 car! No secrets here. Just the costs of racing.
If I added up all of the $ in my EP car plus running costs it would be well over $100k for the 6 seasons I raced it.
Now I hope this doesn’t scare you off and I wish you luck in getting you car done and on the track soon but please consider the knowledge and the value of the people that have "been there done that". We are not trying to get rich at this. That would be impossible. I do this because cubicles suck and this is what I love. Selling a race car is more an effort to recoup a small percentage of the fortune spent to build the car in the first place. As the old joke goes, “How doe you make a small fortune in racing? Start with a large one!