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Old 12-16-06, 09:46 AM
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guys, the IC3 thing is not going to get you anywhere. FIle it there, but only for a record of doing so. The FBI takes those complaints and send them to the appropriate police department. It is up to the police to decide what to do with it next and they normally dont do anything with them. Your best bet is to file a criminal complaint with the actual police department and cut out the middleman.
Old 12-16-06, 10:24 AM
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I want to stress again that criminal and civil complatints are treated seperately. While I'm not going to speak against contacting a local police agency to begin the criminal action (this is local gvt vs theif), he needs to file in small claims to start the civil action to recoup his money (victim vs theif).
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Originally Posted by rx7roller02
guys, the IC3 thing is not going to get you anywhere. FIle it there, but only for a record of doing so. The FBI takes those complaints and send them to the appropriate police department. It is up to the police to decide what to do with it next and they normally dont do anything with them. Your best bet is to file a criminal complaint with the actual police department and cut out the middleman.
Question, how would you know that IC3 is not going to do anything good? Have you used them before? Well, I have, 3 times in total. The problems were resolved within a week, everytime. And no, they don't just hand the complaint to the local PD, the FBI fully investigates the claim and oversees everything.
Old 12-16-06, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by carzy driver
Question, how would you know that IC3 is not going to do anything good? Have you used them before? Well, I have, 3 times in total. The problems were resolved within a week, everytime. And no, they don't just hand the complaint to the local PD, the FBI fully investigates the claim and oversees everything.
Try reading the IC3 website itself....

After you file a complaint with the Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3), you will receive an email containing your complaint id and password. This email will contain a link to an area on our site where you can view, download an adobe pdf version of your complaint, and also provide additional information to be added to your complaint.

As Internet crime complaints are reported online, the IC3 electronically compiles the data. Trained analysts review and research each complaint, disseminating information to the appropriate federal, state, local, or international law enforcement or regulatory agencies for criminal, civil, or administrative action, as appropriate.

After you file a complaint with the Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3), the information is reviewed by an analyst and forwarded to federal, state, local, or international law enforcement or regulatory agencies with jurisdiction. The IC3 does not conduct investigations and, therefore, is not able to provide the investigative status of a previously filed complaint. It is the IC3's intention to review every complaint and refer them to law enforcement and regulatory agencies having jurisdiction; however, investigation and prosecution is at the discretion of the receiving agencies.
In other words, this is precisely what I said it was. They take the complaint as you submit it, DO NOT INVESTIGATE IT IN ANY WAY, and simply forward it to the appropriate police department.

Now, that does not mean that the cops wont do anything, but my personal experience shows me that many police departments are far too busy to be worried about something from IC3. yes, I have personal experience with this. You got lucky, trust me on that one. There is a deal down here where multiple people have filed complaints with this website on the same person. This person has now stolen over $2,000 that we know of from several individuals....the complaint was sent to the police here and nothing further took place. believe me when I tell you, and if you dont believe me, then just read the quoted info from the site I posted.

According to the site itself, they send the complaint to the appropriate "federal, state, local, or international" agency. Not all complaints will be forwarded to the FBI for them to investigate or oversee anything. Try it--complain that someone stole $50 from you on ebay....let's see the FBI get involved over $50....sorry, pal, but I have professional experience putting bad guys in jail and catching thieves and scammers....I think I know what I am talking about here....

Again, read for yourself:

After you file a complaint with the Internet Crime Complaint Center, the information is reviewed by an analyst and forwarded to federal, state, local, or international law enforcement or regulatory agencies with jurisdiction. As investigation and prosecution is at the discretion of the receiving agencies, please contact your local law enforcement directly if you believe your matter is time sensitive.
Old 12-16-06, 01:28 PM
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Well I would Like to work this out, outside of court, so ska3260 if you would like to get this taken care of please contact me through my email account. Luke.Tech.Motorsports@gmail.com
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I thought so....

next time, before you try to sound like you got a pair, learn the facts first. You could have handled this situation with class, but instead you made yourself look like a real ***. Hope you get this worked out.

Also, dont forget the others that you owe money to....
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lol
Old 12-16-06, 03:03 PM
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please archive this for all future scammers bad sellers once and for all
or sticky as must read, so newbies and everyone on forum dont' have to hassle with scammers selling parts, buying cars, etc.
Old 12-16-06, 06:11 PM
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who says I want to now? Maybe I would like to see your *** get railed? Fucktard.
Old 12-16-06, 06:22 PM
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If it were me I'd call your bluff. After all, if you were knowledgeable enough and intent on doing this, you would never have posted here to begin with. You're just trying to look like an e-badass now that you've got a few people on your side.
Old 12-16-06, 06:32 PM
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agreed--stop being a dick already. The people in this forum have helped you get to a position where you can get this resolved--dont blow it now just so you can see which one of you has a longer E-*******.

Be grateful for the spot you are now in and take advantage of it. Otherwise, dont bother posting these threads the next time someone screws you over.
Old 12-16-06, 06:36 PM
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I'm sorry, my intial feelings towards this matter was yes to get my money or rims. But after everything he said, I am hurt. I am hurt that one of our own fellow club members would take advantage of people like that. $200 to me right now is inmateral. I want an apology to the club posted on the forum, an apology to me, and I want him to do right to me and eriksseven and give us the money we deserve. I make $200 in 4 hours at work. It is moral to me and it should be to you too. That is why this country is built on a legal system and laws are made.
Old 12-16-06, 07:35 PM
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that is why i posted to email me so i can get some thing straightened out here, i do not have money flowing out my ears, and nor do i have that kind of money at this point in time. But i would like to make things right. My paypal has been closed so i am going to have to do this outside of and keep all my receipts so that i can get everything straightened out again.
Old 12-16-06, 07:39 PM
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I would like to thank GXL87 for the phone call I do recognize that you have no part in this and you had no idea of what you were receiveing. As for Mr. Amstutz I hope I got that right. I am sorry to hear about your current financal situation and I am sorry to hear that your "attoury" dropped your case for loss of merit or none at all. That sounds like a huge problem on your part. I would like to meet with my actully lawyer and talk this over with him first.
Old 12-16-06, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MiataTurbo
gxl87turbo you are knowingly in possesion of stolen property.
Ok, wtf. First off Luke didnt even tell me these wheels were sold to somebody else. I had r1 fd wheels which I traded him about a month ago for them. How the **** was I suppose to know if they were sold already when this Luke Tech guy has over 1000 posts. I took his word not knowing they were already sold. The wheels are on my car now. Luke Tech has offically fucked me over too.


Here is his info, Im willing to go to his house and I know he has $200



His name is Luke Amstutz
Phone number is 260 701 5853
Decatur, Indiana 46733
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Originally Posted by ska3260
I would like to thank GXL87 for the phone call I do recognize that you have no part in this and you had no idea of what you were receiveing. As for Mr. Amstutz I hope I got that right. I am sorry to hear about your current financal situation and I am sorry to hear that your "attoury" dropped your case for loss of merit or none at all. That sounds like a huge problem on your part. I would like to meet with my actully lawyer and talk this over with him first.

I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW HOW GXL87 KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT MY LAWYER, BUT OK HE KNOWS ALL I GUESS
Old 12-16-06, 07:56 PM
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Also he cant say he doesnt have $200. He has a gtu car that has s5 tails and bumpers and he is also is selling turbo parts. HOW THE **** DO YOU NOT HAVE $200? People like this guy make me ******* sick. SICK! I try to help people out on this club, and guess what- bunch of ******* people trying to rip each-other off. Like I sad I will take anybody that is willing to go to his house with me. And about the wheels, ill ******* give them away to this guy bc Luke likes to be a little bitch and not pay people back
Old 12-16-06, 08:00 PM
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Well I'm Done Putting Up With Others People Dumb Whinny *** Bullshit. My Email Address Is In My Signature If You Would Like To Get A Hold Of Me "ska3260" And If Not Then I Don't Know What Else To Do About This.
Old 12-16-06, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by eriksseven
Luke Tech, you owe me $150...
WTF IS THIS>??????? Do you owe everybody.........
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Luke are you scared?
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Originally Posted by ska3260
Luke are you scared?
NO BUT IF YOU WANT THIS RESOLVED THEN JUST ******* EMAIL ME AND WE CAN BOTH GO OUR SEPARATE WAYS.
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Mr. Luke Amstutz ever since post #31 on this thread I feel we have gone our seprate ways. I feel that you are being absolutly irrational. Why are you so eager to settle this outside of court when you were not that eager to scame me over? I offered you the cost of shipping plus was willing to pay you extra to ship them to me, instead you chose to scame. I have heard many many stories in the past 24 hours of how you opperate. People are coming out of the woodworks to denounce your scheme. I personally feel that a court trial would set you straight instead of sitting here "screaming" at me with your capital letters. Why should I help YOU get out of YOUR F.U.B.A.R now?
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if thats the way you feel
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Thats the way I feel
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Ok, this is getting out of hand. Luke, you ******* pos we all know you have parts in your hand that is worth $200. At least offer this guy some parts if you dont have the cash. And read my ******* posts, dont ignore me. Just bc you cant do good business doesnt mean you have to rip people off. And for the record, I went and saw this guy a few times. There is no such thing as "Luke Tech Motorsports" This guy doesnt even have a shop. He just sells parts, and dont try to bs people by saying you went out of business, bc you never had a ******* business. Your just a person selling parts with no experience at all.


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