Power FC powerFc on 2nd gen. engine
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powerFc on 2nd gen. engine
i 've just fitted a 88 13bt on my 1st gen.i decided to use an aftermarket ecu cause i want to get rid of all those emission stuff(air-pump,bac,acv,solenoids etc.).
i did a search about powerfc and i only found a kit for 3rd gen.
is it possible to make it work on a 2nd gen. engine.
if yes what accessoires and mods are needed?
any suggestion should help.
i did a search about powerfc and i only found a kit for 3rd gen.
is it possible to make it work on a 2nd gen. engine.
if yes what accessoires and mods are needed?
any suggestion should help.
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it is a 3rd gen specific kit. it controls everything along with ac and whatnot. you would have to use an engine and wiring harness from a 3rd gen. just get a haltech or electromotive. they are just as good if not better.
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I know this is an old *** thread, I did a search and found it. lol
Anyways, I have a 87 turbo II, I was woundering if any of you have ever seen or heard of this being done: I want to use a FD lower and upper intake manifold and the primary fuel rail cause it uses side feed injectors, and use the stock turbo II secondary fuel rail cause you mod 1600cc injectors to fit it. I was thikning if I did that, I could go on and use a FD front cover and wiring harness and use a power FC instead of having to get a non-"plug and play" ECU like haltech or microtech. I'm just not sure if the FD wiring harness will work with stuff like the turbo II gauges and the reverse light plugs that are on the tranny in a FD and ect ect.
ANY INPUT WOULD BE GREAT!!!
--Nate
Anyways, I have a 87 turbo II, I was woundering if any of you have ever seen or heard of this being done: I want to use a FD lower and upper intake manifold and the primary fuel rail cause it uses side feed injectors, and use the stock turbo II secondary fuel rail cause you mod 1600cc injectors to fit it. I was thikning if I did that, I could go on and use a FD front cover and wiring harness and use a power FC instead of having to get a non-"plug and play" ECU like haltech or microtech. I'm just not sure if the FD wiring harness will work with stuff like the turbo II gauges and the reverse light plugs that are on the tranny in a FD and ect ect.
ANY INPUT WOULD BE GREAT!!!
--Nate
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Originally Posted by 5252
I know this is an old *** thread, I did a search and found it. lol
Anyways, I have a 87 turbo II, I was woundering if any of you have ever seen or heard of this being done: I want to use a FD lower and upper intake manifold and the primary fuel rail cause it uses side feed injectors, and use the stock turbo II secondary fuel rail cause you mod 1600cc injectors to fit it. I was thikning if I did that, I could go on and use a FD front cover and wiring harness and use a power FC instead of having to get a non-"plug and play" ECU like haltech or microtech. I'm just not sure if the FD wiring harness will work with stuff like the turbo II gauges and the reverse light plugs that are on the tranny in a FD and ect ect.
ANY INPUT WOULD BE GREAT!!!
--Nate
Anyways, I have a 87 turbo II, I was woundering if any of you have ever seen or heard of this being done: I want to use a FD lower and upper intake manifold and the primary fuel rail cause it uses side feed injectors, and use the stock turbo II secondary fuel rail cause you mod 1600cc injectors to fit it. I was thikning if I did that, I could go on and use a FD front cover and wiring harness and use a power FC instead of having to get a non-"plug and play" ECU like haltech or microtech. I'm just not sure if the FD wiring harness will work with stuff like the turbo II gauges and the reverse light plugs that are on the tranny in a FD and ect ect.
ANY INPUT WOULD BE GREAT!!!
--Nate
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Originally Posted by 5252
I know this is an old *** thread, I did a search and found it. lol
Anyways, I have a 87 turbo II, I was woundering if any of you have ever seen or heard of this being done: I want to use a FD lower and upper intake manifold and the primary fuel rail cause it uses side feed injectors, and use the stock turbo II secondary fuel rail cause you mod 1600cc injectors to fit it. I was thikning if I did that, I could go on and use a FD front cover and wiring harness and use a power FC instead of having to get a non-"plug and play" ECU like haltech or microtech. I'm just not sure if the FD wiring harness will work with stuff like the turbo II gauges and the reverse light plugs that are on the tranny in a FD and ect ect.
ANY INPUT WOULD BE GREAT!!!
--Nate
Anyways, I have a 87 turbo II, I was woundering if any of you have ever seen or heard of this being done: I want to use a FD lower and upper intake manifold and the primary fuel rail cause it uses side feed injectors, and use the stock turbo II secondary fuel rail cause you mod 1600cc injectors to fit it. I was thikning if I did that, I could go on and use a FD front cover and wiring harness and use a power FC instead of having to get a non-"plug and play" ECU like haltech or microtech. I'm just not sure if the FD wiring harness will work with stuff like the turbo II gauges and the reverse light plugs that are on the tranny in a FD and ect ect.
ANY INPUT WOULD BE GREAT!!!
--Nate
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Originally Posted by spartiatis
i 've just fitted a 88 13bt on my 1st gen.i decided to use an aftermarket ecu cause i want to get rid of all those emission stuff(air-pump,bac,acv,solenoids etc.).
i did a search about powerfc and i only found a kit for 3rd gen.
is it possible to make it work on a 2nd gen. engine.
if yes what accessoires and mods are needed?
any suggestion should help.
i did a search about powerfc and i only found a kit for 3rd gen.
is it possible to make it work on a 2nd gen. engine.
if yes what accessoires and mods are needed?
any suggestion should help.
Also, i have seen here an imported FC turbo engine from japan that had a power FC with it, and noticed the Power FC had 4 connectors on it just like the FD's ECU and an adapter harness. So, what i wanna know is, is that Power FC specifically for an FC, or for an FD and then someone changed the ignition coil connections so it would work with like the FD's, since this is what you might have to do if you where to buy a Power FC for a 2ng gen.
My 2 cents.
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there are no specific pfc for a fc. only fd ones that was modified for a fc. that would only be all the wiring harness crap wired around right. i believe if u bought the ap eng. pfc for the fc, they would include instructions on how to make the ingition work, plus, they would prob include the manifold pressure sensor (or w/e its called). i had a whole site japanese site translated and it had everything about the ignition. im pretty sure it was supposed to be a simple thing such as rewiring a couple things in the coil.
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Well thats just it, its not that simple, you would need to probably get 2 additional leading igniters, since the trailing coil pack uses that "toggle selection" styled igniter to alternate the one trailing signal from the ECU to both coils. Thats how i would do it.
I think the factory 3rd gen ECU fires the coils directly, i've never seen igniters on a 3rd gen car. Maybe thas it, the PFC has built in igniters in the ECU so the real solution would be to get a coil pack from an FD.
Confusing aint it.
I think the factory 3rd gen ECU fires the coils directly, i've never seen igniters on a 3rd gen car. Maybe thas it, the PFC has built in igniters in the ECU so the real solution would be to get a coil pack from an FD.
Confusing aint it.
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Originally Posted by limbar85
there are no specific pfc for a fc. only fd ones that was modified for a fc. that would only be all the wiring harness crap wired around right. i believe if u bought the ap eng. pfc for the fc, they would include instructions on how to make the ingition work, plus, they would prob include the manifold pressure sensor (or w/e its called). i had a whole site japanese site translated and it had everything about the ignition. im pretty sure it was supposed to be a simple thing such as rewiring a couple things in the coil.
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Originally Posted by limbar85
seriously!?....man, i might have to start saving for that then. haha. what was your total cost for it though?
and when u want new maps, can u send it to an apexi excel shop or do u have to send it to the ap engineering place.
and when u want new maps, can u send it to an apexi excel shop or do u have to send it to the ap engineering place.
I've removed it from the car however and I'm gonna start parting everything out.
I paid $1500 or so.
Worth it, its the only standalone that works with the oil metering pump. I hate premixing.
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does that mean your gettin rid of the pfc too? just outta curiosity....how much for it and the datalogit? there is no way i have the money for it or anything, or else i would freekin by it. haha. just curiosity. the problem is im only freekin 15 ( ), just spent $900 on my brake/hub job, $600 on my bbs wheels, and only have $500 left which i may spend on a digital camera for if i go back to japan again this summer. yea...post some pics of the wiring harness part or something if u have any man.
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Yes, I'll be selling the pfc. Whoever is interested is welcome to PM me. I'm keeping the datalogit for my FD, sorry. They're readily available however.
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Originally Posted by limbar85
neofreak...so u still have to use the stupid MAF? one reason why i also wanted to get the pfc is so i could get rid of that big, ugly, piece of sh**. and where exactly did u buy this pfc so cheap at?
A friend in Japan picked it up for me.
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