I was curious so I email Kashima about his PFC box and recieved the following response:


Dear Sir,

thankyou for interesting for our PFCadapters.


there are four kind of models PFCadapter.

standard version 29,400yen
standard +SP version 48,300yen
with analog I/F version 47,250yen
with analog I/F +SP version(full functional) 66,150yen

(other available parts)
1.8m RS232C 9pin female-male straight cable 600yen


basic function:
it can connect to old type or new type of Power-FC from PC.

+SP function:
this is the data-password canceller. you can access to
password protected data in the Power-FC. if you access or edit to
data in the Power-FC from unknown or somewhere shop.
if you use factroy-default data on initilized PFC will not required
this function.

analog I/F function:
it can input for FC-PRO logging with 3 channells input
analog voltages and exaust-temperature sensor. this is compatible
communication protocol with FC-PRO software.

those packages are not included FCPRO software. you need get
this software or compatible software from anywhere, or make a
software yourself.


paying method:
we can accept the paypal. please add paypal transfer charge
amount of 5%.

shipping method:
we can shipout with EMS. shippment cost are,
(zone 1)asia, guam, marshall Is.,
midway and others 1,240yen
(zone 2)north america, central america,
oceania, middle east 1,680yen
(zone 2')europe 2,000yen
(zone 3)africa, south america 2,440yen


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Kashi Electronics Designs http://kaele.com/~kashima
Hitoshi Kashima

2853-4-206 Ishii, Sakado-city Saitama 350-0212 JAPAN


Can someone help me understand this...there are 4 version starting from $250 to 550--whats the benifits of this over the Datalogit, and if FastHatch sees this, then his box also? Is this worth it?
Any help appriciated!

Marshall

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Up UP and Away!!

 

There is no real benefit, other than expense. FastHatch's box will be the best bang for your buck, because I think he will retail it around $200..? Plus it has additional analog outputs and other features. SP version for example just allows you to calibrate the ecu even if there was a password set by the tuner. FC-Datalogit completely ignores this anyway. Finally, you will need to get your hands on Apexi's tuning software for the PFC, or use something like FC-Tune, because Kashi does not include any software with the box.

 

well i was planning on building the box myself so price is not the problem(about $60 max)...the question lies with the actual functions of the box itsself...I just got what the SP means (thanks)...I want to know now what are the differences between the datalogit, Kashi, and Fasthatch's boxes--ie Kashi analog box has 3 AN inputs + a EGT gauge input...Datalogit has 4 An inputs + the so called SW(switched) ports that seem to have no purpose....And last Fasthatch's box with ???...I will need to wait till his comes out I guess!!

 

Kashis box? You can't build his box yourself because he don't release the firmware for the box. So you would end with a "dead" box which does nothing.


You would need the analog I/F version for 47,250yen = 408 USD which is as expensive as the Datalogit and you don't get a software for the box. FC Tune should work with Kashis box, except the analog inputs. I have no idea how I can read them. I asked him but got no reply. Your second option would be a copy of FC Pro, but they are only japanese.

What features are you looking for? How many inputs and outputs do you need? The box has an USB connector, onboard datalogging (MMC/SD card) and is user updateable so I can implement more features later.

 

oohhhh I see now...I fully understand now....I will just wait for your box to come out...The main function I was looking for was the inputs and I don't want toi fork out for the Datalogit and Kashi's Box is way to high for me....I'm just going to wait for the FCTune box.

Thanks

Marshall