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10-12-05, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by cewrx7r1
When I unzipped it, I get a "rar" file extension, what is that? Is not a dat file.
its another form of compression. winrar can open it. sorry. I will post a zip only.
In fact, I have an LC-1 wideband.
Steve, I hate to tell ya, those timing maps have not been touched since they were entered by you on april of 2004. nobody could have changed them either since I havent let anyone touch my car since then.
10-12-05, 07:59 PM
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Im not claiming my current map is better, just that when I put in Chucks map it didnt feel right up top. thats all. and as far as the offset, the 39xx that comes pre-set in the PFC makes my map sensor read -0.43 so I adjusted the offset until my map sensor read ZERO. if anything it will tell the PFC the correct manifold pressure to go by.
10-12-05, 08:07 PM
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oh and I only had the injectors flow tested recently. I bought them and had them tuned as 1300's, only recently did I find out that they flowed 1600. well, 1608 and 1654 to be exact. I attempted to enter them as 1600's once and had no luck. all I got was a 22 A/F + lean condition at the transition. this was with all the settings set for 1600's...lag tim and all that other stuff.
also, the car was Sequential when it was tuned. it is now non-sequential...Im not sure how much of a timing change is needed between seq and non-seq. so I havent touched it.
also, the car was Sequential when it was tuned. it is now non-sequential...Im not sure how much of a timing change is needed between seq and non-seq. so I havent touched it.
10-13-05, 10:14 AM
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Your setting 5 page is not too good which affects transitions between injectors.
Instead of 6/5/4 injector overlap, use 7/7/4.
Instead of a Pri/Sec Transition % of 45 go 30, and reduce Sec Transistion MS to from 1.600 to .100 .
Setting 4 page, for easier starting and better cold idle, IGN vs Water Cold for 60, change the 15 to 5.
If you had 1600s installed and set them up at 1300s, then they would run very rich. Then if you AFR tuned them as is they would run OK. But when you found that they were really 1600s and changed the PFC to reflect that, then the engine needs to be totally AFR tuned again.
I currently run 550/1600 injectors with my same engine but now with a GT35R turbo.
That map you posted has too little advance timing at the higher revs for a stock port engine.
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Instead of 6/5/4 injector overlap, use 7/7/4.
Instead of a Pri/Sec Transition % of 45 go 30, and reduce Sec Transistion MS to from 1.600 to .100 .
Setting 4 page, for easier starting and better cold idle, IGN vs Water Cold for 60, change the 15 to 5.
If you had 1600s installed and set them up at 1300s, then they would run very rich. Then if you AFR tuned them as is they would run OK. But when you found that they were really 1600s and changed the PFC to reflect that, then the engine needs to be totally AFR tuned again.
I currently run 550/1600 injectors with my same engine but now with a GT35R turbo.
That map you posted has too little advance timing at the higher revs for a stock port engine.
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Originally Posted by TwinTurbo_SE7EN
oh and I only had the injectors flow tested recently. I bought them and had them tuned as 1300's, only recently did I find out that they flowed 1600. well, 1608 and 1654 to be exact. I attempted to enter them as 1600's once and had no luck. all I got was a 22 A/F + lean condition at the transition. this was with all the settings set for 1600's...lag tim and all that other stuff.
also, the car was Sequential when it was tuned. it is now non-sequential...Im not sure how much of a timing change is needed between seq and non-seq. so I havent touched it.
also, the car was Sequential when it was tuned. it is now non-sequential...Im not sure how much of a timing change is needed between seq and non-seq. so I havent touched it.
10-13-05, 12:00 PM
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wait, reduce the secondary transition TO 0.100 or subtract 0.100 from 1.600 making it 1.500?
the timing is what was put in when I paid for tuning. I didnt really feel confident enough to touch the timing, especially from P10-P20.
thanks.
the timing is what was put in when I paid for tuning. I didnt really feel confident enough to touch the timing, especially from P10-P20.
thanks.
10-13-05, 12:05 PM
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That's weird, it must be the orginal map that you had and I modified or some sort. The split timing is definately alot more conservative and looks to be a map created originally from rotary performance. I may have just tweaked a little from here and there? Can you fill me in when i tuned your car and/or where?
steve
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Originally Posted by TwinTurbo_SE7EN
its another form of compression. winrar can open it. sorry. I will post a zip only.
In fact, I have an LC-1 wideband.
Steve, I hate to tell ya, those timing maps have not been touched since they were entered by you on april of 2004. nobody could have changed them either since I havent let anyone touch my car since then.
In fact, I have an LC-1 wideband.
Steve, I hate to tell ya, those timing maps have not been touched since they were entered by you on april of 2004. nobody could have changed them either since I havent let anyone touch my car since then.
10-13-05, 02:08 PM
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NO, change it from 1.600 to 0.100.
Did you read my post about a month ago when I was testing these transition parms and posted my results here? It explains this. https://www.rx7club.com/power-fc-forum-47/inj-fr-google-page-ranking-sc-datalogit-testing-done-today-454413/
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https://www.rx7club.com/power-fc-forum-47/try-change-datalogit-432039/
Did you read my post about a month ago when I was testing these transition parms and posted my results here? It explains this. https://www.rx7club.com/power-fc-forum-47/inj-fr-google-page-ranking-sc-datalogit-testing-done-today-454413/
and
https://www.rx7club.com/power-fc-forum-47/try-change-datalogit-432039/
Originally Posted by TwinTurbo_SE7EN
wait, reduce the secondary transition TO 0.100 or subtract 0.100 from 1.600 making it 1.500?
the timing is what was put in when I paid for tuning. I didnt really feel confident enough to touch the timing, especially from P10-P20.
thanks.
the timing is what was put in when I paid for tuning. I didnt really feel confident enough to touch the timing, especially from P10-P20.
thanks.
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10-13-05, 02:20 PM
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when you get a chance, PM me your full name, and approximate time I tuned your car so that I can look at what I saved in my HD and compare it to what you posted.
Originally Posted by TwinTurbo_SE7EN
wait, reduce the secondary transition TO 0.100 or subtract 0.100 from 1.600 making it 1.500?
the timing is what was put in when I paid for tuning. I didnt really feel confident enough to touch the timing, especially from P10-P20.
thanks.
the timing is what was put in when I paid for tuning. I didnt really feel confident enough to touch the timing, especially from P10-P20.
thanks.
10-13-05, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by pluto
That's weird, it must be the orginal map that you had and I modified or some sort. The split timing is definately alot more conservative and looks to be a map created originally from rotary performance. I may have just tweaked a little from here and there? Can you fill me in when i tuned your car and/or where?
steve
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I figured it might have been something like that. sent you a PM with da info.
Chuck,
I have read those threads. I guess I need to re-read the transition one.
I tried the 5 instead of 15 a while back and didnt really see much improvement. However, I still had IG-Control on at that point. I found that playing with the temp corrections got me the best improvement for warm up. I'll put 5 in there now that IG-control is off and see if it helps any. 
sorry for cluttering up the thread.
10-14-05, 02:20 AM
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LC-1 Lambda Cable (Standalone Wideband Controller) with 02 Sensor
*Bosch Wideband Sensor Included*
The LC-1 is a complete wideband controller built in to a sealed cable. It features the same award-winning patented digital measurement principal found in the LM-1, and includes digital input, output, and 2 programmable analog outputs.
Our price: $ 199.99
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/x...me.php?cat=253
*Bosch Wideband Sensor Included*
The LC-1 is a complete wideband controller built in to a sealed cable. It features the same award-winning patented digital measurement principal found in the LM-1, and includes digital input, output, and 2 programmable analog outputs.
Our price: $ 199.99
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/x...me.php?cat=253
10-14-05, 10:01 AM
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I have one and it works great.
Originally Posted by Matt Hey
LC-1 Lambda Cable (Standalone Wideband Controller) with 02 Sensor
*Bosch Wideband Sensor Included*
The LC-1 is a complete wideband controller built in to a sealed cable. It features the same award-winning patented digital measurement principal found in the LM-1, and includes digital input, output, and 2 programmable analog outputs.
Our price: $ 199.99
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/x...me.php?cat=253
*Bosch Wideband Sensor Included*
The LC-1 is a complete wideband controller built in to a sealed cable. It features the same award-winning patented digital measurement principal found in the LM-1, and includes digital input, output, and 2 programmable analog outputs.
Our price: $ 199.99
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/x...me.php?cat=253
10-21-05, 01:29 AM
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hello I was wondering if i could get a map that is for like basic mods exhaust, rad, ypipe etc. I live in hawaii and we don't have any well known tuners for a rotary. I know these things take alot of time and money to make so i can give some compensation. thank you
12-11-05, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by rynberg
I'm no expert on timing but going of general forum knowledge, the timing maps on Suganuma's map look very retarded. Split is pretty low too.
I guess I'll go check it out to see what they look like.
12-11-05, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by suganuma
Maybe someone could add into where these maps are that the map was done by SR motorsports. I haven't looked at the map in years, if the timing is retarded that's how Ray did it....
I guess I'll go check it out to see what they look like.
I guess I'll go check it out to see what they look like.
12-18-05, 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by cewrx7r1
The Ray map I received for stock port very modded engine was just the stadard mod base map!
where are these maps posted? I'd like to give it a look.
12-21-05, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by cewrx7r1
The Ray map I received for stock port very modded engine was just the stadard mod base map!
The SR map that i originally had was just the stock map with fuel dumped in up top, and injector sizes compensated for. It was an "over the phone" tune so im not surprised too much. Most over the phone tunes add fuel and subtract timing under boost to be safe. not power friendly per say but compared to the stock ecu at 10 lbs of boost it felt like a rocket.
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