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Old 09-13-07 | 07:38 PM
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JZ series in FC?

I just recently saw pictures of an FC with a JZ series engine in it. I couldn't find anything else about the car. I know there is a whole message board dedicated to jz swapped 240sx chasis. Just curious if anyone has any info on the swap. The 1jz is my favorite engine and the FC is my favorite chasis!
Old 09-14-07 | 10:19 AM
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At 2jzswap.com website, there are more guys doing 2jz swaps in FC. If you can stuff a 2jz in the FC, then you could definitley stuff a 1jz.
Old 09-14-07 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by teezlr
I just recently saw pictures of an FC with a JZ series engine in it. I couldn't find anything else about the car. I know there is a whole message board dedicated to jz swapped 240sx chasis. Just curious if anyone has any info on the swap. The 1jz is my favorite engine and the FC is my favorite chasis!
I will actually be atempting this soon (1JZ in my FC) come join us over at Forced Industries
Ill be doing the instal tech there as well as a few other swaps... (the site is dedicated to the hybrid Import) Not many members but were up to 8 and most of us do this yearly (a hybrid swap) There is a lot of knowledge to be gained...

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Old 09-17-07 | 01:46 PM
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I need to know if a 2jz will fit in an FC also. I called the people at 2jzswap.com and they really don't know. I'm going to look at an FC today, so I can get a visual, but does anyone know anything, have you seen it done? Pics? Links? Google is no help and I couldn't find anything in the FC forum either..... Let me know what you know guys....
Old 09-17-07 | 02:32 PM
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It fits... look in the forums of 2jzswap.com
Old 09-18-07 | 10:48 PM
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It fits...
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Old 10-18-07 | 05:57 AM
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that is just not right!
Old 10-19-07 | 12:41 PM
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^ LOL!

Teezler,

Is the FC using a mid/rear sump oil pan?
Old 10-19-07 | 10:19 PM
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What do the 2jz engines go for these days? Any cost comparison between that and a LSx series engine?
Old 10-21-07 | 03:31 PM
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it fits... but at the cost of proper steering geometry.
Old 10-22-07 | 09:23 PM
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a 2jzGE full motor set with 5 spd trans ecu, everything for a running install can be had for ~600. That and the fact that it is the EXACT SAME block and internals as the GTE all you need is a huge turbo IC and intake plenum and you have a 600+hp motor with the TQ to back it up.
Old 10-22-07 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ithajokai
a 2jzGE full motor set with 5 spd trans ecu, everything for a running install can be had for ~600. That and the fact that it is the EXACT SAME block and internals as the GTE all you need is a huge turbo IC and intake plenum and you have a 600+hp motor with the TQ to back it up.
BS. The GE is higher compression and will not boost well if you aren't very careful, It's 10:1 compared to the boosted 8.5:1. One of my buddies just did a GS300 and he rebuilt his stock engine with turbo pistons and all the goodies+ a T66 and that's no problem. I may be looking into this and will AT LEAST install a thick head gasket if I decide to go the 2JZ route.
BTW the 1JZ and 2JZ are almost identical just one is 2500cc the other 3000cc. The 1JZ can be had from the JDM 3rd gen supra with a 5sp far more affordably then the 2JZ-GTE even in automatic form.
Old 10-22-07 | 11:15 PM
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I think these I-6's can be made to fit with a properly modified oil pan. The supra-7 or whatever it is has too ***** of a custom crossbrace, that needs to be way beefier material. Our local JDM importer has a FD clip all striped out, but it doesn't have a hood. I'll have to measure and see what can fit. The tranny tunnel in the FC is huge I'm sure the motor can be slid way back.
Btw getting rid of the stock cast iron turbo mani, 02 housing, and all the heavy cast iron brackets they make for all the accesories, can save lots of weight. It was this way I made a SR20 swap only about 20lbs heavier than the 12A that used to be in my auto-x MG midget.
Old 10-23-07 | 10:31 PM
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http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/ma...any-mount.html

This one fits hood closes no firewall cutting.
Old 10-25-07 | 04:26 PM
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BS. The GE is higher compression and will not boost well if you aren't very careful, It's 10:1 compared to the boosted 8.5:1. One of my buddies just did a GS300 and he rebuilt his stock engine with turbo pistons and all the goodies+ a T66 and that's no problem. I may be looking into this and will AT LEAST install a thick head gasket if I decide to go the 2JZ route.
BTW the 1JZ and 2JZ are almost identical just one is 2500cc the other 3000cc. The 1JZ can be had from the JDM 3rd gen supra with a 5sp far more affordably then the 2JZ-GTE even in automatic form.
Whats funny is, I have a GE-T in my damn garage... So the fact that the GE and GTE blocks are the same is fact. Because I infact am in the process of cureently swapping the motor into my '88 Base...
Old 10-28-07 | 01:37 AM
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Whats funny is, I have a GE-T in my damn garage... So the fact that the GE and GTE blocks are the same is fact. Because I infact am in the process of cureently swapping the motor into my '88 Base...
I imported motors for almost 7 years and I'm well aware the engines are the same, but the GE is higher compression(I think the pistons are domed instead of dished) so you will have to be careful boosting it. Other than that they are the same engine I'm not trying to argue that. It can be done and will be faster and more responsive than a GTE as long as you can keep it together, just tune very carefully. The part that excites me is you can get the SZ supra 2JZ-GE with a 6sp and it's still 230HP and lots of torque N/A.
I had a customer who replaced his RB25DET longblock with a DE from a Laurel, and he went from 9:1 to 10:1 compression and said it was pickier about what gas he used but was alot more responsive and more powerful than the DET version. Alot fo the drag racers run insane compression ratios under boost, like 13-14:1, but they run icebox intercoolers and methanol too, and only for a few seconds down the track. Personally I like to stay at 9.5:1 or less on a boosted engine in a daily driver pump gas scenario.
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its fits. i have one. its just not finished. ohh and i didnt have to change the steering any. i chose to cut the firewall and keep the weight low and as far back as possible.
Old 11-25-07 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ithajokai
Whats funny is, I have a GE-T in my damn garage... So the fact that the GE and GTE blocks are the same is fact. Because I infact am in the process of cureently swapping the motor into my '88 Base...
First of all, you said the internals are exactly the same, which they aren't. The pistons are different, hence the difference in compression. Also, the GTE block includes extra oil passages for oil squirters. For most people this isn't a concern, but I'd prefer the extra piece of mind. Toyota didn't put it there for nothing.
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First of all, you said the internals are exactly the same, which they aren't. The pistons are different, hence the difference in compression. Also, the GTE block includes extra oil passages for oil squirters. For most people this isn't a concern, but I'd prefer the extra piece of mind. Toyota didn't put it there for nothing.
Go back to TR noob :-P Hows the el ess juan coming?
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Hopefully this will help, I mean if somebody can get in contact with this person.
http://www.v8rx7forum.com/v8-rx7-tec...ette-rear.html
http://supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=428042
Old 11-28-07 | 03:12 AM
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This would be awesome, seen how there is many intelligent people in this forum.I would also like to take on the project of having a FC- Supra7.But first have some one do it ,and tell us people interested in how to do the swap step by step.I mean what rear-end would we need if building the 2JZ to make extreme horsepower? What engine management system can we use for this swap? And Wiring problem?Or just a basic swap with the stock 2jz ecu wired into our FC's and turn the key and on we go on the road.Alright Ive said enough and lets see how this turns out.
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O I forgot here is a video of the guy running a 2JZ in his FC, the same one on V8RX7.com with the LS1 swap.I think they call him Scott Orlando or something like that.Anyways here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC9HWe69ojU

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Old 12-02-08 | 01:36 PM
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I went N/A first jst bcuz i had a N/A now im lookin for a more relaible power source like the 1jz or 2jz cant find any where that does mounts for this set up I just see them for the FD, I got a FC
Old 12-24-08 | 11:39 AM
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wow to bring this back from the dead

i did this swap in 04 no suspension geometries have to be changed, mounts can be built up off of the rx7 sub frame, yuo need a jzz30 soarer( our sc300) r154 tranny to have the shifter in the proper location or modify the supra 154 extention housing.all of this portains to an fc not an fd.pm me for more questions.




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