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Old 10-24-05 | 10:11 AM
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Slots instead of camber kit

Anyone know or have a tutorial on how do to it or specs on Wayne Graham's RX3-

Old 10-24-05 | 11:15 AM
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Well, it looks pretty straightforward for me, however it doesnt look rigid. Maybe it is??

I like the FD in the back though.
Old 10-24-05 | 01:08 PM
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I blew the picture up and it looks to me like they are slotted plates welded to the top of the strut housing. Standard camber plates just of the weld on variety.

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Old 10-24-05 | 06:59 PM
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thats what I think he did as well b/c on my rx-3 the strut tower goes up and overlaps onto the plate and is plug welded . he looks like he just cut it off at the "cap" used the old as a template and got some thick steel to cut n shape then stitch weld back on. because those "fins" at the top of the strut tower arent there OEM.Does look straight forward though-erik
Old 10-24-05 | 08:17 PM
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Mel, if u want some camber plates, call ground-control.com and see if they'll make you a set. They've done them in the past. Or they can get you in touch with someone in NorCal who has.

Wayne was real FAST out @ BRP that day. Who woulda thought a leaf sprung rear and aerodynamics of a brick could do so well.
Old 10-25-05 | 01:25 AM
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This is what I have on my 3. Running -2 degree's, but could move it around to almost -4 (but would lose some castor).
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Old 10-25-05 | 08:19 AM
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Thumbs up

thanks for the input guys. Brad yeah, Wayne is a one hell of an old school driver. A very nice guy when I met him at open track day @ BRP. Gave me the specs on his car but I forget to ask about the front suspension. I wanna be like him when I get old... a Fast Revving Old Geezer.

And Billy, let me know when the camber kit is ready.

Thanks again.
Old 10-25-05 | 09:51 PM
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Hey if you want to you can send me a sketch of what you want. Include enough dimensions and I'll draw some up in Solid Works for you. Im planning on drawing a set for my final with the shock, spring, lower controll arm etc. Maybe even a Sway bar/ radius arm. The Rx3 strut tower is essencially the same as the Rx2 right? I can use my Rx3 to get some dimensions from. What kind of springs would you use? They'd have to be of a smaller diameter than the stock ones since the spring would other wise hit the inside of the strut tower. The same for the spring perch and strut mount and bearing of.course. My instructor is a machinist and I can ask him how much it would cost to make them. It'd be a while though. I have to make them from scratch.
Old 10-25-05 | 09:52 PM
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Oops I meant to say that I can use my Rx2 for refrence. I don't have an Rx3. :-D
Old 10-26-05 | 11:22 PM
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Old 10-27-05 | 12:35 AM
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there is clearly more to this car than meets the eye.
Old 10-27-05 | 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by re10
This is what I have on my 3. Running -2 degree's, but could move it around to almost -4 (but would lose some castor).
Not a bad setup, the only down side, is that you are messing with caster and camber at the same tim, rather than being able to only change one or the other.

Here is what i run on my 3: I like the idea of the basic plates like this, vus they have ben proven to be strong, i would be a little worried on the slotted ones above, if they didnt have like 1/4 plate reinforcing them, but it looks like he did a pretty giid job at that. I just wouldent recoment only using like 1/8 inch plate welded in then slotted, i think you would be asking for trouble.

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Old 10-29-05 | 12:23 AM
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My 76 4

This is my 4 and as you can see the adjustment is for caster and since it ha 2nd gen front and rear the mounts for the spindles the up bolt hole is slotted for camber sorry there is no pic for that
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Old 12-16-05 | 12:17 AM
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Heres a working model of an adjustable camber plate. It'd be fun to build. A little expensive though unless I were to make like 100 of them.

Lets see if this image works.

Old 12-16-05 | 12:38 AM
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That would be awesome if any of us had 4 studs for the upper mount.
Old 12-16-05 | 01:16 AM
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Oh heh yeah I guess so huh. The strut tower on my Rx2 is molested so bad that I never really looked at it. Looks like it would work great on my FB though. I just kinda drew it up from memory. It was my final project for a Solid Works Class and there's only so much time to get finals done. It would not be out of the question to make it a 3 hole configuration. I'd have to do more research any how and see what shocks and springs would work best. Probably some sort of a coil over setup. Maybe even design a lower spring perch that could replace the factory unit so that a set of eibach springs could be used with it. Lots of measurements needed. Really the only part that would have its configuration changed is the plate that bolts to the under side of the strut tower. The other parts would likely just need to be changed dimensionally so that they are not too big or too small etc.

It could definately be done though. The tough part is finding enough people interested in the product to make it worth it. There's not all that many old school owners out there. Even fewer that want to pay a fair price for a kit like this. but if there were very many people that showed interest then it could be done.

All the money is in popular new cars. I should make a setup for the Pontiac Solstice. JK.

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Old 12-17-05 | 05:18 PM
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RE Speed does sell a camber kit:

http://www.mrcmfg.com/respeed/images/rx3camberbig.jpg

http://www.mrcmfg.com/respeed/
Old 12-19-05 | 11:23 PM
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Sweeeeet! link added to favorites
Old 12-20-05 | 12:06 PM
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Got the kit from bwaits. Now the hard part....

Cant decide on which set up to use.

FB strut/GC coil overs/tokico illuminas
OR
FB strut/tokico blues


hmmmmmmmmmmmmm head ache
Old 12-20-05 | 12:11 PM
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Go with the coilover and illuminas if you'll auto-x or track day it. Otherwise blues.
Old 12-20-05 | 03:28 PM
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Thanks Brad. I decided to use the GC set up. Now I got to order the camber gauge from Summit and find my flare tool to change the stock brakeline's end fitting to FB style.

Also, can you or someone can recommend what degrees to run on the camber kit?

Thanks again.
Old 12-20-05 | 06:59 PM
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I've got about 1.2 degrees negative in the front with K-Macs in the Rx2. It wanders a bit on big *** grooves in the road, but fine every other way. Doesn't plow anymore under hard cornering. It's not shreading my tires, either.
Old 12-20-05 | 08:32 PM
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thanks Jaime
Old 12-20-05 | 09:29 PM
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Another front suspension option, inexpensive and nice work, I got mine just not in yet pending springs.

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Old 12-21-05 | 01:17 AM
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DAMN! Those are some sweet kits! Bump steer blocks = good idea, especially when you go really low. The plates look pretty durable and looks like they increase travel also.



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