Does anyone know if the new Renesis motors are up for sale? Or when they will be? I am interested...

 

Mazda was starting to tlak about that maybe in 2004-2005 they might start selling crate motors to indeviduals willing to pay for them. They won't sell the renesis right when the '8 comes out since why an '8 when you could buy a rene' (RENESIS) and stick it in your miata or 1st gen or 2nd gen. They want to sell the 8 not engines. But if the 8 sells well they are considering selling the rene' as a crate engine.

 

I'm its not going to take long before some fool stacks it and writes one off so halfcuts will be available quite quickly i think... the question is who will be the first to get their hands on one and shove it in a old school car.

 

I went to sevenstock last september and they had a renesis in a star mazda series race car(they look like small Indy cars). If those guys got one why can't we? I can see maybe price gouging for the first couple of years, depending on rx-8 sales. If the rx-8 costs 30K, why not charge 15k-25k for just the motor(God knows there are people who would pay it)and stick that extra money in the new rx-7 program. I think that if mazda gets the renesis out into the hands of as many rotary enthusiasts as it can, it will only help justifying the rotary engine in the US. By the way, I heard a rumor that the reason that mazda quit the rx-7 in the states was partially because you could not detect engine misfires on a scope and that was one of the requirements for OBD II. All this talk of renesis engines is getting me pumped up. I can hardly wait till they start making headers and superchargers for this beast!

 

Same reason the team racing the Mazda 787B car in Lemans could get a 4 rotor engine from Mazda and we can't. Star Mazda is a Mazda race team.. they can get whatever they want.

Anyone that pays 15k for an stock Renesis engine can personally phone me to come by an slap them. I'm serious. Give me $15,00 and I can have the current engine pushing 850 rwhp in your car, plus other mods to go along with it. Or I could just make the current 13B equally as reliable/poweful as the Renesis.
If Mazda sells Rensis crate engines, they would be more in the $3000-$5000 range.
If they sold crate engines right out as soon as the RX-8 went on sale, then they would definitely lose many potential customers. The people buying the car b/c they like it woudl still buy it, but the RX-7 owners buying it to get a new rotary car would just pick up the engine and slap it into their RX-7 and smile knowing they have $20,000 saved!

That's not true at all. The reason mazda stopped selling the RX-7 in the states is the same reason all japanese companies stopped selling their high performance sports cars in the states at the same time! (300zx, Supra, Stealth, etc). The economy at the time was not is good enough standing for people to be buying, or want to be buying, high priced sports cars like it was in the 80's. Now it is like that again, and as you have noticed all the Japanese companies are coming out with new top of the line sports cars!
The reason the RX-7 was discontinued in the states may have been slightly due to the rotary, but that is so small that it doesn't matter.

Awesome! I have been pretty pumped too for about 6 years now waiting for this engine to be produced for the publice! Finally... only 2 more months of waiting!!!

Superchargers and hearders though? Pleasssse.
Headers yes. Superchargers no. There is already a few companies that have developed (or are developing) turbo kits for the Renesis enigne which will go on sale as soon as the RX-8 does.
I read one interview with a Mazda Renesis engineer and he stated that the renesis engine, although 14% ligther than the current 13B, was designed strong and to be able to handle boost.

 

Well, the economy definitely was part of the factor, but in fact OBDII is the reason 1996 saw the demise and dissappearance of so many cars. It was the first year that full OBDII compliance was required. On many cars this would require retooling the floorpan to fit the "OBDII" cats and other assorted parts to go with it.

And, as you said, the market was dissappearing anyways, so they just dropped them after 95 instead of investing money in reworking a car they are not selling well anyways.

 

From everything I have read, the 8's engine doesn't sound that impressive.

 

in a way it does, but in a big way it does not. one thing a friend and i were talking about that is going to be disapointing to many people is that you are no longer going to be able to get that big power gains with slapping a header on this n/a rotary. it is only going to see the same gains as a piston motor... from what we figured anyway.