I bet it was a PITA to get pass the smurfs for Unobtainium..

 

So does this qualify as a big block rotary AKA "Big Keg" engine ??

Bigyellowcat, The resleved housings really is something to consider. I just tonight made a p-port display out of a trashed housing that was just sitting around. Honestly if you were offering this I would have just sent it to you. And now with the 13B and renesis being phased out in the not so distant future in favor of the 16X there is going to be even more demand .

 

Wow, that's just sick. Are the 3 'rows' geared together or will they each run a separate prop?

 

Get ready...!!!

 

^^ My FSM! Where was that picture taken?

 

now wonder its dwindling down over here...Greece has all the engines

 

That engine is awesomeness in its purest form. Excuse me while I change my pants.

 

they are geared together. the center engine is the output..

thanks...

 

Lets not get too excited yet guys. From the sound of it, it doesn't appear that this engine has even fired up yet and how long it will last and run, let alone some inserts for housings. Sorry to be Donny downer but lets be realistic and get some numbers and time on this stuff before going crazy.

 

^jealousy^ ;D

 

Actually that picture was taken from http://www.rxmotors.co.uk/ They've been in the business for a long time and also do good business. Btw their rx7 with a rx8 totally stock transmission broke into the 9's, just a nice fact.

 

Not at all. I admire his work and craftsmanship to the highest levels, but looks don't mean anything if it doesn't run or function for any lenght of time. It's pretty hard to beat the factory chrome plating on the housings, so if you cannot duplicate this with a sleeve, then a sleeve with other coatings I don't think will work very well as we have found out with the cerment coatings, etc.

 

Give the dude some time before you start hating bro.

 

True! Ya neva know! The sleeve may work perfect with ceramic seals. Hell the older factory chrome was pretty hard and you could easily get 200k out of those housings with metal apex seals.

 

I really admire your bravery for posting as much info as you already have. I know we aren't your target market but I'm sure you have a ton of info that (understandably so) needs to stay a secret. Take as much time as you need for any future updates. We really appreciate what your passing on to us! I know for a fact that if I was a high roller, I would most definitely have your engine in my boat as I'm a rotary NUT.

 

Maybe it is wise to keep your mouth shout or gingers off the keyboard and open your mind alittle. As for not getting too excited that's how I feel about your high 11's n/a drag car. Light up alittle and go with the flow.

 

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if you tried to test different coatings you can only test one at a time. if you try to test another one it would not be a good test because you would not know if it was ran as hard, as high of boost, as many starts and stops, ect..

i have two different materials i have made sleeves out of... i have sent some of each out to have different treatments or coatings put on them.. then in the engine i am going to run one of each material raw with nothing on it, and one of each material with each coating on it and one factory sleeve we have machined the housing away from to have a control piece. now my test will have the exact same abuse to each material and coating.. and i will run it and take it apart and inspect it and put back together and do again till i see wear in all of them and know which one is the best..

there are a couple that im pretty sure are going to do better then the factory one but they are very expensive and were not available several years ago, which is why i dont think mazda used them..and i am trying to build the best engine i can so cost is not as much of a factor as longevity. and if the factory coating is the best then that is what i will do..

and cermet is not one of the coatings im doing.. i may end up testing that also but i doubt it.

here is a video of some of the testing i have been doing... no need to tell me how this is not a good test.. i know every reason its not.. but it is still a good test..

every week it has ran is around 11,000 miles at 70 miles per hour at 3-4 k rpm. i slowed it down for the camera to try to pick it up but it has been running at 6,000 rpm... kinda scarry to stand there..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUMTba3Aw3c

 

sooo cool.
how are u spinning that thing some type of drill press?

 

Wow very cool indeed.

 

First off, it seems people have been reading my responses negatively like I'm bashing your work or project. So I want to make clear for the people that can't read and comprehend my intentions. These are the kind of people that start wars- that make a mountain out of a molehole. Like I said three times before, your engine is amazing and the workmanship and craftsmansip and design are off the charts.

My comment before was regarding the sleeves that people were already placing orders for. lol It takes alot of R&D before you can just put something like that out on the market and sell. They have to be reliable and cost effective and last just as long as the factory housings or longer or else they will not do well in the marketplace. Like you said, just the cost in all the machining that needs to be done is very very costly, let alone the coatings, etc. All I'm trying to do is keep it real. Yes, this is very exciting and I'm excited too. For example: Look how everyone was excited about the billet aluminum rotors that came out by E&J. How many people here actually bought them? I don't know of any. There's one thing I have learned about rotary owners over the years is that they are CHEAP! LOL

Anyways, I wish you the best of luck and if I had the money I would be doing the same thing. People like you and E&J are moving the rotary engine to the next level and we commend you guys.

 

I remember reading somewhere either on this thread or the other that you're not planning on injecting oil or premixing. It doesn't look like you are in the video. Am I correct in saying that you're not going to be lubricating it? I know you designed your parts differently than Mazda but...?

 

No we did not have any oil on it, stopped it and put grease on the stationary gear and main bearing a few times, but nothing on the sleeve. I hope with one of the coatings I have that we will not need oil in the gas so it will be easier to pass emissions and make more power. I will be running a premix in the engine and tapering out the oil over time to see which coating will handle it..

 

So you spin that setup at 3-4k for the equiviant of 11,000 miles per week with out any coolant? Does it not create friction?

Very cool stuff your working on!

 

Yes gets hot as hell, it's mounted to big aluminum blocks (10x10x6) each that have lines in them with a fan blowing on them.. The rotor has burnt me a couple times taking it out to put grease on the stationary gear