so i have heard there is a sti blue sti (who'd of though ) rollin around on skyline lookin for touge racers n probably some ppl like that. i just wanted to know if this rumor is true and why would the cops want to just now start crack down on touge roads? i have also heard it is a manual with suspension n its pretty much built n apparently the guy driving is a very good driver.

 

Lol, Skyline is probably one of the worst roads to do Touge on in the Portland area, I'm not suprised if this is true.

 

i wouldnt doubt it with all the paranoid rich peeps that live up there

 

lets hope no one hits black ice and gets f****d skyline this time of year is a bad idea

 

mitch have you ever heard of a auto sti?I THINK NOT MOTHER ******.

 

Yeah skyline is not a good idea this time of the year, it is fun in the summer, so is german town. I live just a coupe of blocks away. Have not been un there lately but I will keep an eye out this summer for him.

 

Anyone willing to give a joy ride this time of year

I used to love riding Skyline/Thompson on my bike. Skyline WEST of Cornelius Pass...

East of Cornelius Pass is alright too, but not as fun, and too much traffic.

 

Unbelievable. The time spent reading this idiotic thread is time I can never get back ....

 

yah skyline is a bad road cause its all residentual area

sterling, **** u i said it was a manual. n who the hell cares if they dont have a sti with an auto, ****** crown vics dont come with full body coil overs, high output trannys n ****** superchargers but hey the ****** cops have em n guess what those vics are all auto cause there is too much driver error for cops to use manuals.

n boswoj, its too bad u think this is a waste of time cause its definalty gonna same some enthusiasts time and money. here is the big point though if he's on skyline then he can be on gtr, mcnamie and everywhere else in between.

 

I guess you kind of missed the point. I'm completely in favor of law enforcement preventing children from driving like idiots. Taking enthusiasm for cars and driving and perverting it into an opportunity to endanger lives and destroy property hurts all of us. I have five vehicles dedicated to racing and high performance driving and I do it safely in controlled environments. Showing off your lack of talent and maturity on public roads just makes average people think everyone with a sports car is a street racer.

It surprises me that it is an issue to you, because from the quality of your writing I would have guessed you had not completed elementary school. Just for the record, dropping the f-bomb a couple of times a sentence doesn't help you sound any more mature either. I'm sure with years of tutoring and intensive physical therapy even you can be taught to use the shift key, although I have my doubts about you advancing far enough to use spell check effectively. Get back to me when you are old enough to drive.

 

hey *** face, im 19 and anytime u wanna settle this arguement like a man gimmie a pm n we can settle this little dispute. you see people like me who are in school and dont have a lot of money cant go to tracks and have race specific cars. i myself am tryin to get enough money so i can have a track n drift specific car, like yourself. and this is the internet, i dont need spell check or **** like that. yah skyline is a bad road to touge on and maybe for you touge is a bullshit thing. but for me its fun and its a good way to find the limits of yourself and your car. and me dropping the f-bomb to a friend is no big deal and in no way shows i am immature. and for the record old guys who rag on young adults, such as myself, are children not the other way around. awnser me this boswoj, have you ever driven drunk? has ur signifigant other ever driven drunk? and have you ever speed or "accidentally" gone a little to fast on a winding road? if you anwser yes to any of these than congrats, your a hippocrite.

 

he made this just trying to help some people out/find if its true and gets bitched at...whats up with that?

 

obviously if it says "undercover" in the title dont look at it because it'll be a waste of your time boswoj. anything that talks about cops on this fourm is probably goin to have a view that you dont agree with and in turn will be a waste of your time, would you agree? and im me posting this "idiotic thread" i am getting people off of these touge roads, do you really think that people are now going to go on spirited drives on skyline now that there is an awd monster machine out there to chase them down? i dont think so.

thanks fcdrift05

 

hey man no problem I was just wondering why some people are bitching about it....dont like it?dont post.

 

For the record: Street Racers are NOT enthusiasts.

 

maybe not all the ricers n **** but the people who touge n the people who drift (in private property areas n the few idiots who do it on the streets) are most definatly enthusiasts. they put more time and money into their cars to achive optimum performace just like road racers do. if you dont have street racing or any illeagle acts on the street you wouldn't have autosports. nascar came from bootleggers runnin from cops, driftin came from people pushin their cars to the limits on the touge and touge came from people who couldn't go to tracks n pay ridiculous track fees. and track racing originated from the old timers in europe who wanted a safer place for their cars while maintaining the same charecteristics of the countless winding roads. so dont tell me street racers are not enthusiasts because many are the real deal. if you say this then you have just spit in the face of every great japanese racer in the past 30 + years. tsuchiya, orido, ***, kazama, gushi, millen, gan-san, andretti and the numerous other drivers that span this entire world; you would be calling then non enthusiasts? these people have done more for autosports than anyone who has or will ever say street racers are not enthusiasts.

 

In Vancouver there is a yellow STi undercover, I know that for a fact...

 

I know a lot of bright and responsible people your age, so I won't insult them by blaming your stupidity on your youth. You fall into an unfortunate trend following group of punks who make up for their complete lack of knowledge with plenty of attitude. I don't have all day to spend educating you, but lets take a run at some of your more pathetic arguements.

1) The participants of every single respectable form of autosports would gladly line up to tell you they are absolutely against the unsafe practice of driving anywhere near the limits of ANY automobile on public roads. What you are describing is not autosports at all, but the illegal acts of people so selfish that they can't focus on anything but the satisfaction of their own immature pursuit of personal gratification, even when it endangers the lives and property of completely innocent men, women, and children. Those people aren't called "enthusiasts" they are called "criminals".

2) Drifting isn't really a sport but more of an activity. It is judged subjectively, so it isn't really racing at all. I've slid a lot of different cars on a lot of different tracks and it can help develop car control skills and be a lot of fun. On the other hand, it is not the fast way around the track and kids like it mostly because it is exciting, noisy, and doesn't take a very long attention span.

3) Since I volunteer a fair amount of my time every year to train people to drive better at racing schools and high performance track days, it always cracks me up when someone who doesn't have any idea what they are talking about (like you) tells people that they HAVE to race on the street becasue track time is so expensive. First, whether you like it or not, cars are primarily for transportation not sport. You are not ENTITLED to drive above the legal limit just because you WANT to. If you can afford a car, and insurance, then you are doing better than a really large majority of the people who live on the planet. I've listened to lots of spoiled and irresponsible kids (again, like you) who think nothing of saving up thousands of dollars to spend on shiny, trick parts that they hope will make their peers think they are cool but whine that 50 or 100 bucks to do a track day. News flash - your money would be much better spent on developing some actual skill as a driver than on a big ol' bullwinkle wing, some fancy pillar mounted gauges, or a subwoofer.

4) Take out Andretti, who is a legitimate World Champion and a personal hero, and you have a bunch of minor leaguers there. I respect Rhys Millen primarily for what he has done in Rally, but a big star he is not. I don't spit in the face of anyone who has invested the effort and dedication to race, but don't fool yourself into thinking that Japan is a hotbed of international competition. The list of Japanese drivers who have reached the level of international recognition is VERY short. They are working hard to develop young drivers right now so that may change in the future, but for now they remain scarce. As mentioned before, drifting is not racing - it's more like figure skating - and while you and your peer group may be aware of drifting and it's drivers they aren't even a blip on the radar of legitimate motorsports. That is not a slam on drifting, it is just an honest assessment of it's current status with the public as a whole. Give it five or ten years and it will probably be about as popular as ultimate frisbee.

5) Be careful about doing the regular nineteen year old thing where you figure that everyone in the world is scared of what a hardass you are. I'm way more scared that your immature approach to driving will flatten a kid, a dog, or my wife than a physical confrontation with you. Save your threats for other children, because they aren't very effective on grown men.

 

yah that one is on the freeway, they also have a forester gt or somthing.


1) If any of the drivers i listed said that to me they would be the biggest hipocrites in the world because they did it too. they may give me words of advice like go to track days and what not but in all honesty the touge is exciting and believe it or not we control it just as much as officals do on the tracks. There are certain points where we go from and if were really wanting to go fast we set up checkpoints n communicate through walkie talkies. you see a lot of the best roads up here are non residential so why not go there? and trust me on this one we are responsible in our actions and we know the consiquences, its not like were goin 80+ on the touge or somethin.

2) Drifting is most definatly a sport, yes it may be subjectively judged but so are the olympics, so are boxing matches and many other world reknown sports. in order to drift well you have to take a true racing line, the only exception is that your rear end is out. people who aren't ignorant and close minded (such as yourself) can realize this. And we know its not the fastest way around the track and thats not why we do it. it is fun, exciting and yes doesnt take a long attention span but in numerous situations drifting can become superior to gripping it. it all depends on who is driving the car.

3) News flash bud, i am far from spoiled. i have worked and earned everything i have gotten in my life. every dollar i have put in my car was pretty much out of my own pocket and on a barely above minimum wage job and it just so happened to be the worst job ever. yes it may be 50-100 bucks to go to a track but what about the track specific suspension and tires. do you think we have the money to spend to buy tires that we'll only use a few times a year? it is impractical. i myself dont buy stupid **** for my car like subs and huge ****** wings. people who do that are pretty much either drive a show car or a ricer car. everything i have bought for my car is 100% functional and useful, as are many "kids" cars today. sure you may be right in saying that i dont know what im talking about, but not likely. you see i may not be able to read clipping points and apex's but its not like i say i can.

4) andretti is included in this, its not like he grew up in rome and said "father take me to a race track so i can learn to drive safely but still go fast." he is a part of this just as much as anyone. and the minor leaguers you were talking about were not minor leaugers at all. you see you may not have heard of them but thats because the hicks of america dont want to see fast cars go through anything but a left turn. the so called "minor leaugers" are the best drivers in the world. tsuchiya, an ex-touge racer, climbed up to stardom by starting out where we are. goin to the streets and improving his skills until he became one of the worlds most influential drivers. orido is pretty much the same. gan-san an amazing racer and has won pretty much every major title in japan. the reason there aren't many exceptional racers is because there are so many of them. its hard to pick 3 allstars from a countless amount of equally talented racers. and gushi, he's living the dream. before he had his liscense he was already a profesional driver. Millen is far more well known for drifting than rally. for the 11 years he was in rally, he was pretty much unknown to the public just like the "minor leaugers" are unknown to you. Drifting is the fastest growing sport in the world. it has surpassed nascar in fans and has already traveled all over the world. to say it is a blip on the radar is outrageous. sure it can be a blip but the blip takes up the whole damn radar screen.

5) trust me when i say this you are the immature one. trying to best a young adult on the internet (keyword trying). your ridiculous, your a closeminded indivdual whos breed will hopefully die out like the dinosaurs did. and if anyone is dumb enough to let there kid run around on a twisting road in the middle of the nite where the speed limit is 40+ doesnt deserve to be a parent and should be slapped in the face by every real parent in the world. trust me bud that was not a threat, it was an invitation for you and i to handle this like men. wether that be talking it out like gentlmen face to face or doing it that other way. and my so called "threats" may not scare you but thats because you are to dumb to be scared of someone who show you how pathetic you are. you may talk softly n carry a big stick but guess what? im a pissed off individual and it doesnt take a whole lot to push me over the edge from where i can no longer control my actions as well as i could if i was not over that edge. its like wild animal vs a man, the wild animal may not be scared but thats only because he doesnt know he's about to be dinner.

 

horray for boobies?...

 

We have reached a point where I will no longer have to respond. The more you post, the more your ignorance comes shining through. I couldn't make you look worse than your last post did if I sat here and wrote all night .....

Good luck with that minimum wage life you have planned.

 

man you got lucky, glad it worked out in your end

 

Yay for writing skills.

 

MAN THIS IS GREAT!!!!!

i haven't read Boswoj tell somebody off in a long time. THANK YOU!!!!!

yet i'm still trying to understand the thought here. boswoj said he lost time reading this, didn't bitch about anybodys post or what not. yet mwm got all defensive, if you wouldn't have said anything about him he would have went away.

then boswoj tells you the point of being safe on roads and comments on your grammer and the way you use words on the net , which does show your maturity level and your age.

then mwm calls him mean names and kinda threatens him , which shows your maturity level again.

then boswoj doesn't say a thing, yet you lay into him again.

then mwm is still defensive and goes into a racing lecture i guess for everybody to know names that make no sense to the unracing educated public.

boswoj then comments on a bunch of stuff that sounds real good. then mwm recomments on the bunch of stuff, still being real defensive and pushing threats. internet bad ***'s are too tuff. and being spoiled does not necessary mean you got everything you ever wanted or has anything to do with money. then you pretty much say that your parents should be slapped in the face? i didn't understand where you were going with that.


THANKS AGAIN FOR THE GREAT THREAD.

 

this thread def. just took a huge ****, jesus.