http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005...gton_hous.html

YAY bye bye modded 7's.

 

We've got some time to still have fun (if you can afford gas?).

 

Well here's my 2 cents:
Personally, I'm all for reducing Global warming and enacting laws designed to lower vehicle emissions. What makes me really mad however, is the conspiracy between Washington DC and Detroit. On one hand, they toughen up the emission laws for older vehicles and give credits and incentives clean-fuel vehicles. But on the other, they're giving prehistoric waistfull SUV's special privileges and contributing to an overall lower average vehicle MPG the US has seen in more than two decades.
Sort of like starting a war to promote peace?

I think if any vehicle should get a break, it should be a rotary...Well at least over an S**U**V** that is ;-)

 

it doesn't look like its geared towards our cars, it looks like its geared towards new cars... which means no modded rx8's heh... but one day we'll see a rx8 hydrogen hybrid, and maybe fully hydrogen, so no worries... at least imo.

 

@#^&*# West Side Tree Huggers.

 

******* HIPPIES!!!

My god damned online environmental sciences class is all giddy about this bullshit. I am constantly telling them to stfu on our online discussion board and that their ******* hippy cars are polluting too, and to go kill thesmelves.

You wanna know the real problems? Instead of making all of WA have the cali laws, why not get rid of all the non-emissions counties in this state and make them now have normal WA inspection? Keep the laws/regulations the same and just make everyone in the state do it, not just like half of it. This would be a lot better for cleaning up the air. Also, lower the emissions from factories and ****, they're creating more problems than our cars.

*cartman voice* God damn hippies!

 

This looks to be directed towards new cars. If you read carefully, washington will not even adopt ALL of cali's strict standards. But it says that they are wanting to reduce CO2 emmisions in new vehicles. Im not saying that this means that they wont inspect older cars, i just really doubt that the laws will be as strict as that of cali's. Even so, it would take a year or so for this to all go into place.

just my .02

*edit* just finished reading ALL of the article...this will take around 4-5 years for this to all go into place...

 

Yah but I read somewhere else that older cars are going to have more restrictions now too, and the 25 year rule might be taken out or made longer. Not only that but they're thinking about adding emissions to all counties in WA now :|

I just hope it stays the same or near the same where I am and keep NO visual, otherwise it'll be trickier >:|

 

Naw

Yep. Otherwise, that would make many of us now proud owner's of "off road vehicles."

 

That would be hell. I bet less than half of the cars around here would be able to pass an emissions test. My car for sure wouldn't pass any sort of a test.

 

edited for flow:

I find hippy sex to be the best kind!!

 

Passing emissions isn't hard, you just have to be smart about it. My very first emissions test when I got my rx7 blew 2000 HC's at idle and 1500 at cruise or something like that. I got it down to 73 and 86 respectively. It just takes a little effort and rigging.

 

So the people with ported motors are basically fucked then huh........

 

Yep, if they adopt the harsher laws for older cars as well as new ones, that's still undecided I think. I think they're at least going to do it for new cars, older ones is up in the air though. One big reason why cali people can't really port :|

At least I can close my aux ports and it becomes *less* ported, so hopefully I should be okay.

 

You can also blame most of the pollution from China and Japan. The overseas air currents head straight for the northwest.

 

Yah just like all of the US's air pollution go to other countries and they're just as pissed about it. It's all relative.

 

The only changes they are making won't take effect for four more years. They will only effect new cars. So you don't have to worry about your 7's. Even most rx8's will be fine as long as you buy them soon.

I'm glad we don't have emissions here, none of my cars would pass. I agree with testing new cars, but they should make it only apply to factory standard setups. Once you've modified your car a lot you shouldn't have to pass. The reason for this is because of the relativly small percent of cars that get modified. Maybe make it that you have to have your car licensed as a secondary vehicle or a sports car and the licensing fee's go up.

 

If they did that we'd have even worse pollution. I hate how strict it's getting but you can't just do things like that, otherwise it'd be even worse and we'd have air like cali, or worse. I hate going to cali, the air tastes bad, it's heavy, and it smells all the time. I wouldn't want it like that here.

 

If you took a little time to do some research you might just find that we rank #1 in the world for most Carbon Dioxide pollutants due to fossil fuels.
This is a good place to start:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/...o_fos_fue_200#

Anyway you slice it, I don't think it's a good thing to be #1 ahead of China in such a statistic. Oh yeah, I also own a Hybrid, so does that make me a hippie? ;-)

 

I have never been to CA, but from the sounds of dDubs desription I would not want it this way here either

 

Yah, their water tastes like poo from the tap too

LOL but that's just because they have too many people and not enough water reserve so it gets recycled and back to you extremely fast.

 

so.. anyone that cares about the well being of our planet (that we had absolute direct negative impact on) is a "god damn hippie"? wow... Might want to think about that statement.

 

No, they're just trying to put all the blame on passenger cars when there are many more factors and problems that are not being addressed.

 

yes....yes it does

 

SOLUTION TO AIR POLLUTION IN US: Lots and lots of huge fans pointing outwards all across the border. Then everybody is happy, yes everybody, becuase if you are anything other than american, you are nothing. And no, its not that i dont care, its that i just plain dont like you.