Someone pm me with the scoop on all the action I missed in this thread, Isaac and Matt tearing it up I see. I was at work today laying out irrigation pipe using my hardcore time management skillz. Ownage of the corn crop like no other!

 

Isaac and Matt never gave me any **** in person, I thought they were cool but whatever........... nothing like taking pot shots from the comfort of a computer when you can let your real personality come out without worry of real confrontation.

 

nothing like abuse of power. i wonder how you become a moderator.
88teg, i said you are cool cause you are rally inventive, and went from basically knowing nothing to developing swwet stuff for you car. and much more. lates matt22

 

matt get a life. are roomates with BUTSHOT0187 ?

 

Aw ****, I thought y'all hated me but I couldn't see the posts. Superchargers rock.

 

Yes Superchargers ROCK

not many people have them. so all's they can do is guess about them. and what they are really about

I have a supercharger and I'm lovin it

 

Ask Elron90 about how he feels about his thunderbird SC with an overdrive pulley on the M90 blower.

 

I have raced a Tbird SC 35 aniversary ed. with a pully, it was slow...

CJG

 

I guess you have never seen my car. It has panasports, SS brake lines, drilled rotors, FMIC, 3"DP custom exhaust, GSL rear, Light flywheel, mapped ecu, 680 secondarys. Basically its one of the nicest looking FB's out there. Personally i hate first gens. They are almost all gay looking cars that have white trash people that drive them. The reason for this is because they are a cheap "sports" car. So naturaly poor people buy them. They are dime a dozen an in my eyes, except for my car, they are disposable. Now, my car has made 118RWHP and 245 ft lbs. torque at 4500 rpm with 19 psi. it makes around 250 wheel at 15 psi. What sets it aside form Any supercharged rx7 is that it has actually had the same engine in it for over 4 years and was daily driven for 2 of those. last year i drove the car non stop from seattle to LA for SS7 and back with no problems. The swap probably has 50k miles on it. let see a supercharged 7 do that! I stress this is my opinion and that i have not directly called any of you names of any kind, I only "referred" to 1st gen owners as white trash. thats all i have to say. so befor you go called my car made out of beer cans, think about it next time.

CJG

 

You're right, I've never seen your car. I'm sure it's a beautiful car. My point was that anyone with half a brain can make a fast car for cheap. With $500.00 I could make my car fast, but not pretty. I could also spend $10,000, and still not be fast. The beer can reference was not toward your car, or you for that matter. Simply put, if you get enough rednecks together, with enough beer, and a limited income, I bet they come up with a fast car. Blacksports comparison of the two cars was rediculous. Mazda did a fine job at laying the foundation for a turbocharged rotary, and people have been able to build on that. The supercharger is still young for the rotary, and it will take time to get it right. The codeblue car was not built just to go fast, but also to look very, very nice. Obviously not everyone will like it, and fortunately for them, they don't have to pay for it. I'm sure the codeblue car will have even more money put into it before it's done, if it ever gets done, and I hope it turns out to be the car they want it to be. I don't think anyone should get so worked up about a car they don't own.

 

i think that was the longeset, most thought filled post daniel has ever made scary

 

SHRUB

 

A 13B-REW will make similar HP with a stock cat, DP and IC and 10psi.

A 13BT with a full exhaust and stock ECU will make around 200-220rwhp IIRC at 9-10psi.

Why do you need to run 15psi to make that kind of HP?

No flames.

Oh yeah and I agree most people with FBs are lucky to have them with one color and a matching set of tires.

 

as much as these things break ur damn right theres less rotaries on the road

 

If you guys want to talk hp......300rwhp+ at 11psi is awesome! Couple weeks ago at Woodburn I ran a 12.4@115mph at that boost level. I'm thinking about having Ralph Friend tune it for 15psi, and see if I can run 125mph on pump gas. CJ

 

Personally I love superchargers; and rotertuner if your ever plan a trip through Oregon let us know so 88teg and I can meet up with ya. I am curious how "slow" my GIIANT boat of a T-Bird is compared to your 7. I dare say you may be suprised. The world may never know.
Also I'd like to see how your obviously more powerfull 7 would fare against my stock 84 GSL-SE on the autocross track.
If your interested look us up an www.wmc.org
I'm "only" a 4 hour drive from Poulsbo WA.
All in good fun, but seriously. I'd like to see your car dude.

 

I have never seen a dyno of a bt making 200-220 RWHP on 10psi. They make 180 FWHP at 6. thats like 130 RWHP. Your telling me they gain 70-90 RWHP using the stock inefecient turbo and 550cc injectors and only running 3-4 more psi? I just verifyed with chris at GT garage, he says that you cant make 200 on a stock ECU with stock injectors and only exhaust and 10 psi. Mabe fly wheel but not wheel. Mine is a S4 block also. I said 15 psi gets me around 250 wheel. 10-11 gets me 220.

CJG

 

Im pretty sure i could get you at autocross also, as long as it is all stock and doest have eruthane, coilovers, and bars. Even if you did, bring that to bremerton when it rains out, ill bring the GTX. I usually run just a couple seconds of greg downing in his GTX and he has been nationaly competetive.
now your car vs mine.

Yours Mine

Weight 3500lbs. 2450 lbs.

HP: 250RWHP 250RWHP(http://www.sccoa.com/articles/sfbillhull.php)

Tourque: 350 Ftlbs 300 ftlbs.



there you go. Im pretty confident i would own you but someday we ,ay see. To be completely honest with you guys, i have driven the fb 3 times in the last year, im pretty much board with it and i want an FD with a ported engine and a GT35R that would make 400. Any ways theres where i stand.

CJG

 

Hmm, they say a stock Super Coupe runs 16.0 flat. My minivan runs 15.9...

Wanna run 'em stock to stock?

 

300 rwhp gets you in the 12's, eh? LOW 12's, my my.

I must finish my project, OR DIE!

 

If it was stock you might have a chance. Alas, it is not. Wait... Thats a good thing.
I have no idea how much power astrochild has but I can keep up with his streetported 7 pretty easily.
Then again I have no idea how much power I have either. lol It's just alot faster than stock.
I autocrossed the T-Bird 4 years before I started racing the 7. it was a blast.
So rotortuner whats the url to your loal autocross club?
My GSL-SE is completly stock except for tockico adjustable shocks and Falken Azenis 215's.
The only other thing I bring is 6 years of autocross experience. Let me know. I'd be willing to make the drive for an autocross if you have a place for me to stay.
Damn I'm addicted to autocross.

 

Do a search for bermerton sports car club.

CJG

 

I made 189.9 at ABF this year. 3 inch downpipe, full 3 inch exhaust, cone filter, I was hovering around 7-8 psi, stock 550 injectors, stock ecu, stock tmic, it had a walbro 255 and thats about it, e fan and under drive main pulley and MDS 6al on the leading. Thats all my mods. Stock S-5 jspec 13B turbo. I was only in it 10 -15 seconds, just enough to hit 6500 in fourth then i was out. I didn't want to creep any.
I dont know about 180 flywheel at 6 psi? that seems pretty low. On the same note I dont think 10 psi will get you 220 at the wheels with stock turbo and tmic. So whatever that is worth, thats what i got.

 

His car is a high 14 second machine, in my opinion. We both drove each others' cars one day for kicks.

 

All I know is his 7 isn't the slowest rx ive ever been in...Of course the slowest one I have ever been in is my own.
Oh and how did your car compare with his?
Care to comment astrochild?