of course, were always out, we just might be in our beaters

go fd rx-8 are under powered

Wassup TNC............If you want power and exclusivity go with the FD!...just make sure you have a beater...lol....If you want a rotary...as a daily driver with comforts of home with great handling then the rx8 is it...unless you want to wait for the 4th gen rx7...which will officially be out late 2011....16x renesis engine...so far Max hp..350...torque...250....

hey where near creek are you. im 15 mins away in west milford and i use to live in the great gorge condos. so i know vernon pretty well.

I don't think its official yet.

^ Yeah i agree....
And if it did come out i think it would be a Rx-9...... I never seen a car company go back in a series.

that plus, as i wrote in the rx8 club thread, odds are the rx8 will be the last rotary car mazda makes for a while...there going green by 2015......lol i rhymed

I am right next to vernon high school on 565

I doubt mazda would release a 350hp rotary. Just sounds fishy. I expect a little miata like car with about 200hp. Ya know to compete with the ft-86 and all.

The listed Horsepower was rated as a Max performance output of the 16x. But may be detuned to 250hp...to compete with the Totoya/Subaru coupe and Hyundai Coupe....As far as it being named the Rx7....the odds are in its favor since they are trying to make it a 2 dr sports car again with less weight. Got the info from Fast Lane daily!...fresh every day..on the rumor mill...they are usually right on the money!...keep my fingers cross...lol

The only way I wouldn't be pissed if mazda calls the new car the rx7, if it does come out that is, is if it actually looked like the FD. Newer cars these days have such strong safety and feature requirements that its difficult to make something similar to the FD chassis. Even the miata chassis is relatively heavy.

dont get your hopes up oz, they already dissapointed with the tokyo auto show...i just have that feeling like its not going to happen

Mazda already got the green light to build it!...Hey Andy you are exactly right!....That's why they are going to do the mx 5 over again...and make it lighter and faster...trying to be nostalgic like the original....Right now Mazda Corp. is trying to get feed back from its core rotary enthusiast ..in trying to guage the right amount of horsepower and torque for the 4th gen...the project is a go...they just cant make up their damn mind!...I would suggest starting with 280-300hp...assuming the curb weight is similar to a miata. Also heard that its going to be a dual cl. transmission...with direct injection...hopefully they will get rid of the flooding issues....so relax dave...its on the way....we all have to be patient...unfortunately the market and economy dictates:-(

well judging by the rumors...looks like its going to suck

at least it will be a good option for a beater

I've read it has had a green light to build it for a while. In fact, I heard about the news in a similar fashion (aussie web video). It broke my heart when it didnt happen :(.

I get my news from jalopnik and they also say a new 7 is coming...
http://jalopnik.com/5435351/report-m...s-the-new-rx+8

Their source is
http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...-for-rx-8.html

but I'll never believe it until mazda tells me. They have been talking about a 7 for 2012 for a long time. It probably is true. I think the reason this is coming up again is because of the announcement of the AE86 spiritual successor. Now mazda has an even greater reason to go retro. I really do hope it comes out though. That would rock!

Yeah there have been rumors about the dual clutch with the set rev matching feature for a while, somewhat similar to the 370z. I forgot where I heard this one but this wouldnt surprised me at all if it were true. I think it makes perfect sense to put it in the next car.

Hey Andy...your right again...competition brings out the best. Hopefully Mazda will listen to their core rotary customers and not to the executives!...Another rumor i heard was a mid mount 16x....with the dual clutch...they are desperate so save weight ..along with distrubution....i know their tempted to make the 16x 300hp...but when they see that Hyundai...and Toyota will sell their vehicles at $25,000..with minimal hp(250hp)...they might be tempted to so the same?.....

Are all these estimated hp amounts with or with out a turbo?

I'd be really surprised if mazda could get 300~ with an NA 2 rotor.

your forgetting that were not talking about a 13b, hp rules dont quite apply

Meh NA is so lame.

I'm soooo close to finishing gathering parts for the turbo swap.
Just need injectors, fuel pump, and a front mount. If anyone knows somewhere I could get these locally hit me up

^ what size injectors u going with???

I hate AN fittings and when you put on a after market exhaust manifold where the oil line is so short that it is a pain to make the shit bend where you need it

if n/a's would make the power im looking for without sacrificing drivablility i can honestly say i would much prefer an n/a rotary:

smooth powerband all the way up the rpms
power on demand, no lag at all
more predictable
safer and more reliable

its why if i were to go 20b i would definetly make it n/a

Dave,
The only Justifiable 20b NA would be if you had two. One Ballz out 600+ and the smooth power 300-350 hp.

In regards to this new flagship rotary...Im sorry guys, i just dont see that 90's Sports car era ever coming back.

The next generation of OBD PCM/ECUS are ridiculous. Mix that with how far back development in rotary engines in comparison to pistons; it wont be anywhere what were expecting.

Its sad, car makers have plateaued development on Engines overall but Technology in Ecus have gone years if not decades ahead of engine development.

720cc primaries and 1600cc secondaries.
I was going to go with 1000s up front but I don't want my low end to be shitty.

I totally agree with rx927.
I doubt anything they'll put out now will be as good as the FD and FC were in thier time.

Ive been doing my fair share of research no need for 1000/16000 combo unless your shooting for some insane hp. There is a calculator around somewhere or max hp with injector combos.

Proper fuel pump and fuel pump/injector wiring with the 720/1000 combo you should have more than enough injector duty to spare.

calculator is on rx7.com

apparently if i put my primaries and secondaries as 1600's and add on 2 additional injectors at 1600, all with 80% duty cycle i can have 1100hp hehehe

^ lol.....
Yeah it calculates hp to the flywheel..... To figure out what it is%

im leaving now... warming up the RX...

I went with 870cc primary and 1680cc secondary but I am shooting for 450whp

Have a fun night fellas!!

Yeah I'm shooting for high 400s so I think 720 / 1600 combo looks good. Can't wait to drop this microtech in.

quit slacken andy, we miss u!! lol

thanks for the warm welcome guys ... When I left, I was more confused than when I got there.

Basically I got this:
Rx7 for power, having fun with rebuilding ur engine, respect from enthusiasts

Rx8 for handling, reliability, respect from the ladies

Most people suggest that I should go with the 8, However most of the 8 owners I talked to admitted that they want a 7, but most of the 7 owners never say, "Yo man, I wish a had an 8..."

i give up... i guess I will have some regrets w.e I go with it'll prolly go down to where I can get a better deal

Just get the 7 more power is more fun. I agree I don't think I've ever heard a 7 owner interested in the 8 from a performance stand point besides my mechanic. And he grenaded 3 rx8 trannys haha

FD all the way!.....Hey Andy dont feel bad havent been there in 3 weeks...i guess i will have to bring in my truck...want me to pick you next week?...lol

You get respect from enthusiast in a 8 as well..... and a few meets me and omar went too, Where there were porches and Ferrari. they gave props to Omars (Sliver rx8) car cause they were surprised on what it was capable of.

I think its really a power issue....
For right now the max im seeing on rx8 are 400whp. If you can live with that, then its really an issue on looks.

The other thing to think about is a 400whp rx7 is nothing..... everybody's making 400..... But a rx8 with 400.... its kinda rare. youll be one of a few.

whos the yellow fd in some of the pics on the rx8club thread?

which one???? in the tuesday thread??

njpopups let me no how the microtech install goes. I have to do mine also.

I had a rx8 and now a fc (since I can't fit in a fd, to damn tall for it) I will only go with 7's from now on no more 8's for me unless I have extra 10 grand to fix up a 8 to make it as fast as the 7

hey stink heres a local guy selling a MB FD
hes a pretty cool and honest guy. And im sure he'll give you a good deal once your ready
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-rx-7-1993-2002-vehicles-107/mb-1993-rx7-%2414-500-compression-test-photos-878615/

That is if you choose a FD

Rx8 are great cars but they don't get respect from the ladies. Some girls do like them but they aren't exactly chick magnets. Like Dennis said, the main problem is that they are underpowered. I know alot of people that like the 8s but just can't tolerate its lack of umf. Thats also non-sense about what 7 people say about 8s. I think the consensus is that 8s are great cars and might make wonderful dailys, 7 owners would never trade 7s for 8s. If you have money, buy a 7. Its just the most exciting toy I have ever owned. I'm sure alot of people will tell you the same.


Sorry I havent been around. Part of it is that I have no ride right now but the other part is that I have been busy as hell. Things aren't so ideal right now hahaha.


There are a bunch of good deals in Jersey right now. So good I've banned myself from the vehicle FS section until my FD gets done. Last I checked, there was also a nice red FD that also was serviced at IRP that was for sale. You can't go wrong with Swat though, he seems like a really nice fella, defintely not a sketchy guy. I met him at mitsuwa when I saw his car there. My sister thought I was nuts asking a stranger if they belonged to a web forum. Did he end up going to a meet? I've been trying to introduce him to Kel. Last time I spoke to him he was thinking about repainting the car.



Dave how is the build coming along?

hahah thanks Ozz for the offer. I may take you up on it. Also, I'm going to be selling my gauges pretty soon. If you havent gotten yours lemmie know if you want them. I'm probably going to sell them with my flyrx7 pod as well. I figure the next FD I get won't need them (cherry, unmodified 7 or a 3-rotor N/A).

3 rotor N/A :icon_tup: but in a RHD shell:blush:

thats my next move..... after the Ferrari 355 of course

The One???

What do you guys think?

wtf ... i just set my heart on the 8 and then I go here and see those two posts ... u guys are killing me

yea that one

thanks for the advice Supernaut. Just tell me one thing, I feel like FD's aren't as bad as people make them out to be (if you take care of them at least) ...... Am I right?


I am looking at this too ... but its in cali https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-rx-7-1993-2002-vehicles-107/%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A-94-mb-touring-single-turbo-392-rwhp%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A-878580/

and this

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-rx-7-1993-2002-vehicles-107/selling-my-93-r1-853080/

As of until mid feb .... anything above like 11 is out of my price range .... so i dont want to waste ppls time

your very right ^

But the problem is the previous owner...... I feel like thats where 80% of the problems are.
Like i said ive had mine for close to 2yrs. and it was never in a shop for over 2weeks..... the longest time was when i had the turbo replaced.

and I daily drive it.... and drove it to North Carolina.

P.S. that black one is nice.... i fell in love with this one
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=188792
its more money but damn its nice

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-rx-7-1993-2002-vehicles-107/94-mb-rx-7-a-879099/

this too

.... yea i am not feeling white on the rx8 for some reason, its either some shade of blue, black or (yes) yellow for me. I feel like the Ohio one for 9k is a REALLY good deal, i pmed the dude ... I also pmed the dude with the red fd in nj

it'll still most likely come down to w.e is the best deal for me ... so whos that yellow fd with the unpainted bumper (not spoiler) on the rx8club thread ... i think i saw it on Ave. P a few years back

That one looks nice to.. .but ohio is far.... plus if its local you can take it to a shop for them to check out.... b 4 u buy

yeah i believe his name is Ted. hes a cool guy...
Hes another 8 owner turned FD owner... so he's mostly on the 8club.

We see him a lot in the summer, i believe he live's in central NJ. Or at least hes always at those meets.
his name is BlueAngel ( http://www.rx8club.com/member.php?u=8565 )on the 8club. PM him if u want hes really down to earth.

this one right???
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...5/IMG_3231.jpg
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...5/IMG_3233.jpg

Dennis is totally right. Your car has to be at a certain point to be reliable and previous owners are a big part of that. Its not to hard to maintain from there.

You also have to know the limitations of the car with whatever mods you have on there. Even a stock FD is bulletproof under a certain set of circumstances. These cars just don't break, they fail for a reason. You may have to spend alot of money refreshing small parts that need replacing. After this and doing the basic reliability mods, your car should be very reliable as long as you watch your temps and don't push the car excessively (along with maintanance that you already know about).

The problem lies with your definition of reliability and what are acceptable conditions for your car. I want to be able to get stuck in manhattan traffic for hours, not worry about my intake and water temps and still be able to drive out of it and boost to my hearts content almost immediately. For me, the bad part about owning the car is getting it to where you want it to be. After that I don't consider FD ownership difficult at all.

Here are some things that I wish I knew before I get the car.

-3-rotor N/A FDs are reliable as hell. FI is what strains the engine. The problem is that 3-rotor cars are incredibly expensive to build but I'm sure they are worth the money.
-LSx FDs aren't that expensive to build compared to what it would cost to build up an equally reliable 2-rotor turbo car.

If you do go buy an rx7 or 8 actually, along with the reliability mods mentioned time and time again on forums, I think you should have the engine pulled to make sure all the bits look fresh. Make sure the wiring is pliable, make sure the small bits around the engine don't look fragile. This might be a bit excessive but I think it will save you ALOT of headaches in the future. Alot of times when you read about problems on the forums, its usually a small bit that wears out that needs to be replaced. If all FDs that have traded hands had this done, I bet the technical support forums would be alot smaller.

I've said it many times but the FD really is the best mistake I have ever made so please don't read this as me telling you to look elsewhere. Despite all this trouble, owning an rx7 is better than what I could have ever imagined. Sometimes I think that if the rx7 was more bulletproof, I wouldn't like it as much.

Dennis you're such a rotary pimp hahaha.