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03-17-05, 09:19 AM
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Didn't have a chance to get the adapter like I wanted to yesterday, so I'll be checking around for it today. I'm pretty sure that Olympic in Crofton or Greenbelt should have it.
03-17-05, 11:52 AM
#3254
Originally Posted by Tofuball
I guess you dont have much experience modifying N/As then 
Originally Posted by tufball
N/A Fuel system is good to about 220HP
Originally Posted by tufball
Porting makes huge differences on Rotaries, even without other mods.
Originally Posted by TUFFSHITBAL
My N/A 'vert in its formitive stages was faster then a stock turbo, and it was almost all Home Depot mods and tweaks.
I realize I am conversing with a kid who has not turned many wrenches.
Good luck making that huge power you keep dreamin about.
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03-17-05, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TUFFSHITBAL
My N/A 'vert in its formitive stages was faster then a stock turbo, and it was almost all Home Depot mods and tweaks.
So where are the 1/4 mile time slips or dynos sheets to back that up?
I realize I am conversing with a kid who has not turned many wrenches.
Good luck making that huge power you keep dreamin about.
My N/A 'vert in its formitive stages was faster then a stock turbo, and it was almost all Home Depot mods and tweaks.
So where are the 1/4 mile time slips or dynos sheets to back that up?
I realize I am conversing with a kid who has not turned many wrenches.
Good luck making that huge power you keep dreamin about.
3DBoost, I don't think he was out to prove you wrong or anything. TB was just explaining the stuff he did with his N/A.
03-17-05, 12:23 PM
#3257
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Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST
Your right, I woud not waste my time trying to mod an N/A
Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST
A basic BPU boosted rx7 will make 300hp. So you still have a long way to go to get it faster than a boosted car.
Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST
You are clueless, porting only increases the size of the actualyport. It does nothing to add the extra fuel needed to make more power. A larger port alone does not make power, It only offers the engine the ability to move more and and fuel which is what makes power. I ported my 13b about two years ago. How many have you done?
You dont _need_ extra fuel to squeeze out a bit morepower, in fact, less fuel would make more power as we run quite rich stock. (People have seen gains around 20HP just popping an S-AFC on to lean out the mixture, fun!)
But yes, once at that point, it requires more air + fuel to create more power (not just air)
However, as I stated before, the N/A fuel system flows quite enough fuel for even a few crazy modifications.
Also, I didnt say anything about porting it larger (though it helps in some spots), theres a lot of obstructions in the stock intake that porting them out can make very large differences. Considering you admitted to not knowing about the N/A Intake in the first place, why did you even bring this up as a point of confrontation? Good for you in porting your own engine 2 years ago. Just because you ported an engine once doesnt mean you're good at it :p (Not that I'm implying you arent, I dont have any information to the contrary other then your lack of knowlage about N/As)
Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST
So where are the 1/4 mile time slips or dynos sheets to back that up?
Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST
I realize I am conversing with a kid who has not turned many wrenches.
Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST
Good luck making that huge power you keep dreamin about.
I dont understand why:
1) You're so angry about this
2) You're making a personal attack
3) You're doing it HERE of all places
4) You have this idea that I was dreaming about huge power (I have dreams for high fuel economy and a liniar torque curve though!)
5) Why does it matter if my home depot N/A can beat a turbo? It's happend, and it will happen again, I dont see why that would make you angry.
Last edited by Tofuball; 03-17-05 at 12:32 PM.
03-17-05, 12:33 PM
#3258
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Originally Posted by Tofuball
Not everyone is out for hardcore speed. Also, not everyone has a turbo, sometimes they start out with an N/A, and thats how it is
You're not comparing apples to apples. A stock TII doesnt make 300HP, and its still a TII, all an N/A would have to do to "make TII numbers" is make the same HP as a stock TII.
Why did this turn into a personal attack?
You dont _need_ extra fuel to squeeze out a bit morepower, in fact, less fuel would make more power as we run quite rich stock. (People have seen gains around 20HP just popping an S-AFC on to lean out the mixture, fun!)
But yes, once at that point, it requires more air + fuel to create more power (not just air)
However, as I stated before, the N/A fuel system flows quite enough fuel for even a few crazy modifications.
Also, I didnt say anything about porting it larger (though it helps in some spots), theres a lot of obstructions in the stock intake that porting them out can make very large differences. Considering you admitted to not knowing about the N/A Intake in the first place, why did you even bring this up as a point of confrontation? Good for you in porting your own engine 2 years ago. Just because you ported an engine once doesnt mean you're good at it :p (Not that I'm implying you arent, I dont have any information to the contrary other then your lack of knowlage about N/As)
The 'vert has only ever been beaten by two sevens, and that was when it was running hardcore lean due to a fuel problem; Mike's TII on Guide Dr, and Hansi's FD (I didnt stand a chance, even though it seems to be running way too rich) on rt. 650. I have repeatedly shut down even modified TIIs, and I'm sure people on this thread will speak up to attest to that. Or not
When did I ever say anything about dreaming about huge power?
I dont understand why:
1) You're so angry about this
2) You're making a personal attack
3) You're doing it HERE of all places
4) You have this idea that I was dreaming about huge power (I have dreams for high fuel economy and a liniar torque curve though!)
5) Why does it matter if my home depot N/A can beat a turbo? It's happend, and it will happen again, I dont see why that would make you angry.
You're not comparing apples to apples. A stock TII doesnt make 300HP, and its still a TII, all an N/A would have to do to "make TII numbers" is make the same HP as a stock TII.
Why did this turn into a personal attack?
You dont _need_ extra fuel to squeeze out a bit morepower, in fact, less fuel would make more power as we run quite rich stock. (People have seen gains around 20HP just popping an S-AFC on to lean out the mixture, fun!)
But yes, once at that point, it requires more air + fuel to create more power (not just air)
However, as I stated before, the N/A fuel system flows quite enough fuel for even a few crazy modifications.
Also, I didnt say anything about porting it larger (though it helps in some spots), theres a lot of obstructions in the stock intake that porting them out can make very large differences. Considering you admitted to not knowing about the N/A Intake in the first place, why did you even bring this up as a point of confrontation? Good for you in porting your own engine 2 years ago. Just because you ported an engine once doesnt mean you're good at it :p (Not that I'm implying you arent, I dont have any information to the contrary other then your lack of knowlage about N/As)
The 'vert has only ever been beaten by two sevens, and that was when it was running hardcore lean due to a fuel problem; Mike's TII on Guide Dr, and Hansi's FD (I didnt stand a chance, even though it seems to be running way too rich) on rt. 650. I have repeatedly shut down even modified TIIs, and I'm sure people on this thread will speak up to attest to that. Or not
When did I ever say anything about dreaming about huge power?
I dont understand why:
1) You're so angry about this
2) You're making a personal attack
3) You're doing it HERE of all places
4) You have this idea that I was dreaming about huge power (I have dreams for high fuel economy and a liniar torque curve though!)
5) Why does it matter if my home depot N/A can beat a turbo? It's happend, and it will happen again, I dont see why that would make you angry.
Last edited by DarkAngelKamui; 03-17-05 at 12:41 PM.
03-17-05, 12:51 PM
#3259
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Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST
Your right, I woud not waste my time trying to mod an N/A
A basic BPU boosted rx7 will make 300hp. So you still have a long way to go to get it faster than a boosted car.
You are clueless, porting only increases the size of the actualyport. It does nothing to add the extra fuel needed to make more power. A larger port alone does not make power, It only offers the engine the ability to move more and and fuel which is what makes power. I ported my 13b about two years ago. How many have you done?
A basic BPU boosted rx7 will make 300hp. So you still have a long way to go to get it faster than a boosted car.
You are clueless, porting only increases the size of the actualyport. It does nothing to add the extra fuel needed to make more power. A larger port alone does not make power, It only offers the engine the ability to move more and and fuel which is what makes power. I ported my 13b about two years ago. How many have you done?
Now... if more air is flowing into the engine, the airflow meter will measure more air flowing into the engine, and the stock computer will compensate by adding more fuel... You don't need to modify ANYTHING in the fuel system until you modify so much that the stock computer is unable to compensate. (IE can't find such high airflow in its fuel maps).
03-17-05, 12:59 PM
#3260
A BPU 3rd gen might be making 300hp.
A BPU s5 t2 will hit about 230-250 without any type of piggy back FMU.
Don't bother running off with that turning wrenches horseshit with me, this is the 2nd turbo 2nd gen Rx7 I've owned (and modified) and my 7th overall. I've owned S4/s5 turbo and non-turbo cars, and I've modified them all as a hobby with no intention of racing competitively or making some sort of living from it.
You are the shining example of a cocky drama queen FD owner that gives Rx7 owners in general a terrible name. Guess what, no one gives a flying **** that you took an air grinder to your housings and made a hole, into a bigger hole.
Tell ya what. Go post a thread in rotary performance and tell everyone how stupid you think Tofuball is for modifiying n/a cars or whatever your problem is and then count how many people care.
Bottom line, different people have goals that are different from yours. It's redundant to think that everyone has (or should have) your goals.
A BPU s5 t2 will hit about 230-250 without any type of piggy back FMU.
Don't bother running off with that turning wrenches horseshit with me, this is the 2nd turbo 2nd gen Rx7 I've owned (and modified) and my 7th overall. I've owned S4/s5 turbo and non-turbo cars, and I've modified them all as a hobby with no intention of racing competitively or making some sort of living from it.
You are the shining example of a cocky drama queen FD owner that gives Rx7 owners in general a terrible name. Guess what, no one gives a flying **** that you took an air grinder to your housings and made a hole, into a bigger hole.
Tell ya what. Go post a thread in rotary performance and tell everyone how stupid you think Tofuball is for modifiying n/a cars or whatever your problem is and then count how many people care.
Bottom line, different people have goals that are different from yours. It's redundant to think that everyone has (or should have) your goals.
03-17-05, 01:05 PM
#3261
Originally Posted by f1blueRx7
A BPU 3rd gen might be making 300hp.
A BPU s5 t2 will hit about 230-250 without any type of piggy back FMU.
Don't bother running off with that turning wrenches horseshit with me, this is the 2nd turbo 2nd gen Rx7 I've owned (and modified) and my 7th overall. I've owned S4/s5 turbo and non-turbo cars, and I've modified them all as a hobby with no intention of racing competitively or making some sort of living from it.
You are the shining example of a cocky drama queen FD owner that gives Rx7 owners in general a terrible name. Guess what, no one gives a flying **** that you took an air grinder to your housings and made a hole, into a bigger hole.
Tell ya what. Go post a thread in rotary performance and tell everyone how stupid you think Tofuball is for modifiying n/a cars or whatever your problem is and then count how many people care.
Bottom line, different people have goals that are different from yours. It's redundant to think that everyone has (or should have) your goals.
A BPU s5 t2 will hit about 230-250 without any type of piggy back FMU.
Don't bother running off with that turning wrenches horseshit with me, this is the 2nd turbo 2nd gen Rx7 I've owned (and modified) and my 7th overall. I've owned S4/s5 turbo and non-turbo cars, and I've modified them all as a hobby with no intention of racing competitively or making some sort of living from it.
You are the shining example of a cocky drama queen FD owner that gives Rx7 owners in general a terrible name. Guess what, no one gives a flying **** that you took an air grinder to your housings and made a hole, into a bigger hole.
Tell ya what. Go post a thread in rotary performance and tell everyone how stupid you think Tofuball is for modifiying n/a cars or whatever your problem is and then count how many people care.
Bottom line, different people have goals that are different from yours. It's redundant to think that everyone has (or should have) your goals.
STFU, No one was talking to you.
And get your panties out of a wd, can no one talk around here without having to read your whiny *** post?
03-17-05, 01:10 PM
#3262
Originally Posted by Tofuball
Not everyone is out for hardcore speed. Also, not everyone has a turbo, sometimes they start out with an N/A, and thats how it is
You're not comparing apples to apples. A stock TII doesnt make 300HP, and its still a TII, all an N/A would have to do to "make TII numbers" is make the same HP as a stock TII.
Why did this turn into a personal attack?
You dont _need_ extra fuel to squeeze out a bit morepower, in fact, less fuel would make more power as we run quite rich stock. (People have seen gains around 20HP just popping an S-AFC on to lean out the mixture, fun!)
But yes, once at that point, it requires more air + fuel to create more power (not just air)
However, as I stated before, the N/A fuel system flows quite enough fuel for even a few crazy modifications.
Also, I didnt say anything about porting it larger (though it helps in some spots), theres a lot of obstructions in the stock intake that porting them out can make very large differences. Considering you admitted to not knowing about the N/A Intake in the first place, why did you even bring this up as a point of confrontation? Good for you in porting your own engine 2 years ago. Just because you ported an engine once doesnt mean you're good at it :p (Not that I'm implying you arent, I dont have any information to the contrary other then your lack of knowlage about N/As)
The 'vert has only ever been beaten by two sevens, and that was when it was running hardcore lean due to a fuel pump gasket problem; Mike's TII on Guide Dr, and Hansi's FD (I didnt stand a chance, even though it seems to be running way too rich) on rt. 650. I have repeatedly shut down even modified TIIs, and I'm sure people on this thread will speak up to attest to that. Or not
When did I ever say anything about dreaming about huge power?
I dont understand why:
1) You're so angry about this
2) You're making a personal attack
3) You're doing it HERE of all places
4) You have this idea that I was dreaming about huge power (I have dreams for high fuel economy and a liniar torque curve though!)
5) Why does it matter if my home depot N/A can beat a turbo? It's happend, and it will happen again, I dont see why that would make you angry.
You're not comparing apples to apples. A stock TII doesnt make 300HP, and its still a TII, all an N/A would have to do to "make TII numbers" is make the same HP as a stock TII.
Why did this turn into a personal attack?
You dont _need_ extra fuel to squeeze out a bit morepower, in fact, less fuel would make more power as we run quite rich stock. (People have seen gains around 20HP just popping an S-AFC on to lean out the mixture, fun!)
But yes, once at that point, it requires more air + fuel to create more power (not just air)
However, as I stated before, the N/A fuel system flows quite enough fuel for even a few crazy modifications.
Also, I didnt say anything about porting it larger (though it helps in some spots), theres a lot of obstructions in the stock intake that porting them out can make very large differences. Considering you admitted to not knowing about the N/A Intake in the first place, why did you even bring this up as a point of confrontation? Good for you in porting your own engine 2 years ago. Just because you ported an engine once doesnt mean you're good at it :p (Not that I'm implying you arent, I dont have any information to the contrary other then your lack of knowlage about N/As)
The 'vert has only ever been beaten by two sevens, and that was when it was running hardcore lean due to a fuel pump gasket problem; Mike's TII on Guide Dr, and Hansi's FD (I didnt stand a chance, even though it seems to be running way too rich) on rt. 650. I have repeatedly shut down even modified TIIs, and I'm sure people on this thread will speak up to attest to that. Or not
When did I ever say anything about dreaming about huge power?
I dont understand why:
1) You're so angry about this
2) You're making a personal attack
3) You're doing it HERE of all places
4) You have this idea that I was dreaming about huge power (I have dreams for high fuel economy and a liniar torque curve though!)
5) Why does it matter if my home depot N/A can beat a turbo? It's happend, and it will happen again, I dont see why that would make you angry.
Why don't all you kids take a chill pill. Can no one disagree with any of you without you all getting all upset? Give me a break. If you dont want to discuss cars then don't post in a car forum. Not all opinions will be similar to yours.
03-17-05, 01:13 PM
#3263
MegaSquirt Mod
I don't mind discussing cars.... without insulting anyone... and I don't mind correcting people when they're wrong either....
Also, more power doesn't necessarily equal faster... unless all you're doing is going in a straight line.
Also, more power doesn't necessarily equal faster... unless all you're doing is going in a straight line.
Last edited by muythaibxr; 03-17-05 at 01:22 PM.
03-17-05, 01:24 PM
#3265
Jesus is the Messiah
FanTan
Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST
Who said I was mad?
Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST
Seems like all your boy friends here are the ones who re mad. inever attcked you, where did I attack you or call you name?
Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST
I said you were clueless and you are.
And then you went to follow up with this:
Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST
You said you were working on making your car faster than a boosetd seven. How is that not "seeking or dreamin" of more horsepower.
Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST
Why don't all you kids take a chill pill. Can no one disagree with any of you without you all getting all upset? Give me a break. If you dont want to discuss cars then don't post in a car forum. Not all opinions will be similar to yours.
If you want to discuss cars, why didnt you respond to Muythaiboxer's post?
I dont like insulting people, but that last post is outright delerious :p
Why are you even posting here? What do you hope to give to the rotary community by doing that?
Last edited by Tofuball; 03-17-05 at 01:28 PM.
03-17-05, 01:25 PM
#3267
Originally Posted by muythaibxr
yes you're right, porting by itself just allows more air to flow into the engine....
Now... if more air is flowing into the engine, the airflow meter will measure more air flowing into the engine, and the stock computer will compensate by adding more fuel... You don't need to modify ANYTHING in the fuel system until you modify so much that the stock computer is unable to compensate. (IE can't find such high airflow in its fuel maps).
Now... if more air is flowing into the engine, the airflow meter will measure more air flowing into the engine, and the stock computer will compensate by adding more fuel... You don't need to modify ANYTHING in the fuel system until you modify so much that the stock computer is unable to compensate. (IE can't find such high airflow in its fuel maps).
OK and how high do you think those cells go? Im sorry but without adding fuel your not going to make any impressive increase in horsepower.
03-17-05, 01:28 PM
#3269
MegaSquirt Mod
Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST
OK and how high do you think those cells go? Im sorry but without adding fuel your not going to make any impressive increase in horsepower.
As far as I'm concerned going from 160 to 220 horsepower with no fuel upgrades on an NA is pretty good... that's a 37.5% increase with little money spent...
Last edited by muythaibxr; 03-17-05 at 01:31 PM.
03-17-05, 01:29 PM
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i have apiston engine in a 7 and im helping put antoher one in
~signed blasphemer
how can i normally get every single retard on this board to argue with me by saying the word piston yet you children pay no mind?
~signed blasphemer
how can i normally get every single retard on this board to argue with me by saying the word piston yet you children pay no mind?
03-17-05, 01:33 PM
#3275
Originally Posted by Tofuball
Well, considering your angry tones and name claling, you did.
Originally Posted by tuff tuff
Uh, "Tuffshitball" is a name/attack. same with the lines about not turning wrenches, and all that confrontational jazz. Oh yes, and let us not forget:
Originally Posted by tuff tuff
I mean, if you want to say I'm clueless, what are you going to back it up with? And whats that have to do with cars?
And then you went to follow up with this:
Originally Posted by TUFF TUFF
More horespowere and 'huge power' is a bit different, you just changed your argument here. I'm shooting at 32MPG, not the 300HP you mentioned earlier.
You arent discussing cars at all, your whole post was geared at being confrontational and agressive. The 'information' that was in it was outright wrong (such as your claim that the N/A fuel system is inadiquite and porting wont help at all)
You arent discussing cars at all, your whole post was geared at being confrontational and agressive. The 'information' that was in it was outright wrong (such as your claim that the N/A fuel system is inadiquite and porting wont help at all)
Originally Posted by tuff tuff
If you want to discuss cars, why didnt you respond to Muythaiboxer's post?
Originally Posted by tuff tuff
I dont like insulting people, but that last post is outright delerious :p
Why are you even posting here? What do you hope to give to the rotary community by doing that? I'm honestly deeply scared by the fact you're a mod on NOPI.
Why are you even posting here? What do you hope to give to the rotary community by doing that? I'm honestly deeply scared by the fact you're a mod on NOPI.
I am trying to show you that you need to rethink being able to beat a boosted rx7 with your port only with a $120 ecu and no extra fuel. Now if you think I have not contributed to the hobby you should read some of my posts over the past few years. You will see that I have helped lots of people and made alot of friends.