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Old 05-15-07 | 10:14 AM
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engine sales and rebuid question

ok im not sure if this is the right section but, ill ask dispite the possible flamming.

does anyone no where i can buy a new engine or go to have an engine rebuilt or swaped in or close to new jersey?
and what about mazdatrix's engines are those new engine or are they rebuilds of your engine?

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Old 05-15-07 | 02:41 PM
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Your best bet may be to ship your engine to Kevin Landers for rebuilding. Check him out at: http://www.rotaryresurrection.com/. I doubt you will find a "factory-new" engine for an FC or most any other rotary for that matter. And even if you did, it would be very pricey and most likely a scam.

Best you can hope for is a rebuild by someone who knows what they are doing, or you can buy a remanufactured engine from Mazda. Try Ray in the parts dept at Malloy Mazda in VA for pricing. He will give you a decent price and he may be able to have it shipped to you directly.
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well, say i wanted to buy a remanufactured TII engine and trans, how would i go about getting one?
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You could order it from mazda. But it'd probably be cheaper to buy a Jspec on ebay and send it to kevin landers and have the transmission rebuilt locally. Kevin could also port it for you which mazda will not do.
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ok that sounds good, how much would it be to buy it from mazda would you know?
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Old 05-16-07 | 10:10 AM
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Old 05-16-07 | 10:36 AM
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ok that sounds good, how much would it be to buy it from mazda would you know?
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Any price you get here on the forum will not be accurate. Like I said already, call Ray at Malloy Mazda parts dept. and ask him the cost of a reman. He will give you a good price.
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Any price you get here on the forum will not be accurate. Like I said already, call Ray at Malloy Mazda parts dept. and ask him the cost of a reman. He will give you a good price.
This is true, it's roughly 1800 after a core charge to give you a ball park at the mazda dealer. I think with porting kevin would probably run a little less after shipping.

The trans just get rebuilt locally. I've had quotes at $750 assuming i brought them the transmission out of the car.
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Old 05-17-07 | 02:05 PM
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no ****?! what color is you car? maybe ive seen you somewhere? we definetly need to talk
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Originally Posted by f1blueRx7
This is true, it's roughly 1800 after a core charge to give you a ball park at the mazda dealer. I think with porting kevin would probably run a little less after shipping.

The trans just get rebuilt locally. I've had quotes at $750 assuming i brought them the transmission out of the car.
i'd be caurful of rotary resurection. i'm currently rebuilding one of his motors after a coolant seal failed after 50 miles of use. the seal was installed improperly (twisted); i'm suppried it lated as long as it did. Also, the engine seals were held in place with "grey" gasket maker (not hylomar, to avoid confusion). i believe this also contributed to the coolant seal failure. Aslo, this is supposidly a rebuilt jspec, but has an N/A rotor housing with the defuser ground out (poorly i might add). ALSO...the engine has a small steetport/polish. the porting itself looks like a 5 year old with ADHD did it. the edges are not smooth, and there are dips in the edges where the grinding tool was left in one spot for too long. In addition, the port and polish was only half completed. the runners are completly untouched and it has not been polished at all.

I don't know if this is representative of all his work, or if this is just a wierd coincidence, but do some research before sending him your motor!
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Originally Posted by need-a-t2
i'd be caurful of rotary resurection. i'm currently rebuilding one of his motors after a coolant seal failed after 50 miles of use. the seal was installed improperly (twisted); i'm suppried it lated as long as it did. Also, the engine seals were held in place with "grey" gasket maker (not hylomar, to avoid confusion). i believe this also contributed to the coolant seal failure. Aslo, this is supposidly a rebuilt jspec, but has an N/A rotor housing with the defuser ground out (poorly i might add). ALSO...the engine has a small steetport/polish. the porting itself looks like a 5 year old with ADHD did it. the edges are not smooth, and there are dips in the edges where the grinding tool was left in one spot for too long. In addition, the port and polish was only half completed. the runners are completly untouched and it has not been polished at all.

I don't know if this is representative of all his work, or if this is just a wierd coincidence, but do some research before sending him your motor!
I've had Kevin rebuild 3 motors for me and all of them have collectively over 100k on them and they all run strong, infact the one I just sold had 20k with 110+ psi on each rotor face front and rear.

I'd double check your facts on who built that motor, if it was Kevin I know he uses hylomar to hold seals in place (every one of my motors had blue on the plates)

Theres nothing wrong with using an n/a housing either and poorly ground or not I doubt you'd be able to tell the difference if you didn't know it was there. As far as the port job? Well I've seen kevin port motors before and it's nothing like you described. I'm pretty sure he doesn't offer any polishing sevice.

Bottom line he gets people up and running for budget prices, if he uses an n/a rotor housing it's probably because the person purchasing the motor wouldn't have enough money to pay for a new turbo housing.

I don't know who you are, or who you build motors for but Kevin has a longstanding reputation on the boards and I've spent several thousand dollars with him and have never had a warranty issue with him. My question is, why didn't your friend take the motor back to him, it would have been warrantied for free

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Originally Posted by f1blueRx7
I've had Kevin rebuild 3 motors for me and all of them have collectively over 100k on them and they all run strong, infact the one I just sold had 20k with 110+ psi on each rotor face front and rear.

I'd double check your facts on who built that motor, if it was Kevin I know he uses hylomar to hold seals in place (every one of my motors had blue on the plates)

Theres nothing wrong with using an n/a housing either and poorly ground or not I doubt you'd be able to tell the difference if you didn't know it was there. As far as the port job? Well I've seen kevin port motors before and it's nothing like you described. I'm pretty sure he doesn't offer any polishing sevice.

Bottom line he gets people up and running for budget prices, if he uses an n/a rotor housing it's probably because the person purchasing the motor wouldn't have enough money to pay for a new turbo housing.

I don't know who you are, or who you build motors for but Kevin has a longstanding reputation on the boards and I've spent several thousand dollars with him and have never had a warranty issue with him. My question is, why didn't your friend take the motor back to him, it would have been warrantied for free
I have a reciept from him for the motor, so i know he did it. There was a little bit of hylomar on my housings too, but once i cracked it open there was the gasket sealer. I have no doubt he gets people running at cheap prices, but to use N/A housings? he could have at very least swaped the exhaust port sleeves. I have the motor reassembled already, so i can't get pictures of the actual ports, but i can get pics of the runners if you'd like.
My name is cliff, and i build motors for local people, i've built 7 motors to date, and i don't call myself an expert by any means; but i do know the right and wrong way to port/assemble a rotary engine. this one was not assembled correctly, and the porting quality is below what i would put my name on (not to say it doesn't work).
you should read your contract some time and you would realize why i didn't return it for warranty. the warrenty is not tranferable when you sell the car, not to mention it would cost more to ship it there and back, than to fix it myself.
I'm glad you've had a good experince with Kevin, and I hope everyone else has too. I hope this motor is just a freak motor the somehow slipped thru the cracks of his quality control methods. My intention is not to smear his reputation on the ground, but to get people to do research, before they decide to use him for their rebuild.
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. My intention is not to smear his reputation on the ground, but to get people to do research, before they decide to use him for their rebuild.
I see your point, but this is something (like 90% of goodguy/badguy forum posts) that should be addressed directly to the builder, then if you get a bullshit response, go ahead and throw it on the boards. I know for a fact if Kevin built a freak bad motor he'd probably even go out of his way to help a second hand buyer on a per situation basis considering the low mileage.

He's a standup guy and is known to go beyond his responsibilities to satisfy the customer as long as the situation is dealt with in an adult fashion.
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Originally Posted by f1blueRx7
I see your point, but this is something (like 90% of goodguy/badguy forum posts) that should be addressed directly to the builder, then if you get a bullshit response, go ahead and throw it on the boards. I know for a fact if Kevin built a freak bad motor he'd probably even go out of his way to help a second hand buyer on a per situation basis considering the low mileage.

He's a standup guy and is known to go beyond his responsibilities to satisfy the customer as long as the situation is dealt with in an adult fashion.
I agree, but since i decided to fix it myself, there was no need to get him involved. I'm not questioning his customer service since i have no first hand experiance with it, but the fact remains that i am not pleased with the motor that he built. again, i'm not trying to discredit him, just get people to do research.
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