drift2genrx7

what the hell chuck? you agaisnt me having a good looking car? i have a car that i race and beat on and dont care about, i want a nice looking cruising car, just cause we arnet all like you and want something to your liking doesnt mean we dont want it, so ya i want a nice looking car, no i dont want dumb **** like led spray ****** things and you know that, so thanks for making me have faith in myself, really brings my self esteem way up, least it cant bring it down cause i know what i want and im going after it with a good attiutude, so when it comes time for a ported engine am i gonna come to you or do i have to go to someone else since im just in the "riced out" group? just drop it chuck if you ahve a smart comment like that please keep it to yourself

SS124A

and I think you are missing my point.... and NOT LISTENING!!!!!
oh, and you aren't looking at the big picture...

if you want a cruising car.. buy another caddy...

That's too bad.
See When i first started with cars, most notably with RX-7's I wish I had someone who had spent many MULTIPLES of my annual salary, and more years than I have had pubes building them... to help point me in the right direction..

you young'ens..... need to listen more,


why not? because the LED sprayers aren't functional??? or cost-effective???
its not about self esteem... here.. it is about what I see coming.. and me trying to prevent much more future strife...




Every engine I have ever done was for specific reasons at the time I did it...
and you'd prolly be better off going somewhere else.. simply because you aren't planning ahead...
My engine would out-perform many of the parts you would be neglecting to replace/upgrade...
wouldn't it be great to have a car sitting in the garage with a bad-*** engine... and an exploded diff?? or smashed because the brakes weren't up-graded before the engine... ???

or maybe you'll kill my engine.. because you decided colored lug-nuts or whatever were more important than a fuel pump (or two)
BIG PICTURE JEFF!!! BIG PICTURE.



why should I drop it???

I'm the one trying to help. I dont want to have to bite my lip from saying...

"yep, see Jeff, I told you so.."

Oh, and I don't mean to come across mean, or condensating or whatever..
i think there is a definate voice of ... been there, done that... in there, and that's it..

so don't take offense.. if you do, its your fault.. because you are taking the time to listen.

drift2genrx7

i am listening but you are saying keep the car stock, and i dont want to but you keep pounding it down my throat, no **** that, im gonna upgrade just about everything in time, you insult me by saying i dont know what the hell im doing, i may not know much about cars as you do and i prolly never will but i know enough to know to to upgrade it, when i go to do my engine, every little thing will be fixed or replaced, dont insult me and treat me like i dont know what im doing, the car wont sit, you just cant have faith in anyone else besides yourself, o well thats the way you are, just to make you happy ill never ask you for any help since im NOT LISTENING, maybe you arent listening chuck, i am gonna mod my car period. it will be ok period so dont keep telling me keep it stock and ****, ya it will be stock for a while till i have money to do the first parts i want, sorry if this pisses you off, im kinda ticked to that a friend would have such little faith

R_PROWESS

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What the hell... is this a rhetorical question or are you serious? The man with all the answers and such obliging words of wisdom and advice, doesn't quite grasp such a simple concept? Please. If you don't even understand what I’m talking about, or what a "reverse air-flow induction vent or whatever???" is. What the hell reason do you have to doubt me?? And of-course you see no logic behind it, you obviously don't even know what it is that you’re so eager to dismiss. So I’ll tell you. A reverse airflow hood is with an induction vent located in the low pressure zone of the hood (more towards the bumper) this low pressure zone if done right will create a vacuum in the engine bay SUCKING out the heat. Depending on where you put it you can eliminate the use of your electric fan at speeds in excess of 35 miles per hour... sometimes less. Sitting still and the fan kicking on, it makes an exit for the heat being pushed instead of being trapped in the engine bay... another bonus is being able to use a fan that draws much less amperage.. especially from lock rotor. Because it’s in effect only on at low speeds

Pictures attached of my hood to give you all an idea of why you don’t need to fork out 300-500 dollars and have something just as effective for 0$

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...hmentid=185501
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...hmentid=185504
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...hmentid=185500

Derek King

iTrader: (2)

umm its an rx7...... = deep pockets or in the garage.

R_PROWESS

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Time is money? it took me 2 days to do, and on the third day I painted it... You must get paid the BIG bucks 100 dollars an hour or so for time like that to mater

it amazes me the money ppl will fork out just to be lazy and avoild learning new skills in the process

Derek King

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im praying to god that those black tubes arent what i think they are LMFAO. and main reason we dont do that. we dont go slower than 35mph lol. seriously when are you going that slow when you race? besides that last thing i would want to do is have to race in a mod class with an fc. maby there are only few people in this thread that know what a mod class is... o well

drift2genrx7

well all i have to say is this is a discussion board, not a put down forum, if you dont think someone is right in doing it discuss it dont put it down right away, people do weird things that others are quick to jump all over and put down but hey sometimes it works, thats all i ahev to say

Derek King

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oh yaay add another digit on there then you will have it right. but if you want im down to make a 100 tonight maby it can be done in an hour lets race homie see how that reverse hood......um yaay really works

R_PROWESS

iTrader: (3)

in excess of 35 miles per hour meaning ABOVE. and yes they are what they appear to be. i had to have something for break in before i got my IC pipe ... btw you can do this to any generation rx7.. they all have similar aerodynamic patterns

"lets race homie see how that reverse hood......um yaay really works".. typical of you to consider this a performance mod

SS124A

dude,
you aren't listening..

woul;d you like me to repost my inital thoughts??

go back and read them..
in no way was i saying to "KEEP THE CAR STOCK FOR ETERNITY"

Derek King

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chuck just give it up.. see that guy over there kicking them box's? yaay well he has a car too so he hates you. lol

SS124A

watch your mouth, sweet-heart.

nice job on the hood BTW.
but it isn't an INDUCTION thing..
induction refers to air intended to be "SUCKED" or Induced into the engine... for combustion...
so maybe that is the cause of the confusion or ambiguity.


um, I thought you ment reverse induction.. .ala "cowl-induction" style//.
like the old "muscle cars."



having a vented hood like yours is def a good idea..

MORE OVER, being someone against "COLD-AIR INTAKES"

I can tell you if you were to re-route your intake plumbing... so your induction piping elbows around the front support.. to provide a place with a "bowl-shaped cover around the air-filter... you'd have an optimal set-up...
I can go further into this for anyone wanting to do it..
I have found that certain air-box bottom assemblies from other cars can be easily modified

SS124A

It doesn't matter whether derek considers it a performance mod or not..
the SCCA and NASA both say it is...


so off to mod class you go... whether it is truely "THAT" beneficial or not... you're still screwed when trying to race it in a sanctioned body.



OH, and true..
all RX-'s have similar aero properties..
but uh, lets not start to discuss this...

because they aren't enough similar to make mention that this is best for all..

eg...
I'd throw an AIR dam and front splitter on ANY of them.. esp the FB far before cutting the hood.

if you want to get into an aero discussion that'd be awesome..
the FC chassis especially takes well to slight proper aero mods...

w00t.

drift2genrx7

well i dunno chuck sorry if i am miss reading what you are saying im sure we have the same ideas, i am going about this car on the basis of what needs to be done first i know do brakes before i get power and all of that, but i want this car to really look nice and such, ive never had a really nice looking car ie look at the explorer, caddi, geo, i want to kinda make this car look brand new, but still have a few kicks too, it, but nothing gets done before i really think things over, 2nd reason it is staying stock the whole winter, 1st is because it will be more reliable that way

SS124A

do things in planned stages//
i dunno why you want to put teins on something you want to "cruise in"

i guess my big thing.. is why you are mentioning things like wheels and TII hood..

when you can't tell me what part numbers are to any of the filters///

or where the best source is for a fuel pump, or bushings, or what brake pads you want, and where to get them..
so on and so forth.

I wouldn't worry about wheels or exhaust or anything performance minded.. until ALL the supporting MODS are out of the way..


GET A NOTE-boook..
you have the time to research now... make notes.... when you have less time, more money... go through the note-book and DO.


I have one for the STi..
and I promise I won't talk about anything until I have maxxed out the abilities of the stock part....

starting to foller me now?

R_PROWESS

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Yes, it seems we had some confusion, i'm not so sure there is a specific name for a hood like that lol.. being why it was called about 10 diffrent things between us. well if their is a name i dont know it.. just going by what i have heard other people call theirs. Yes, I have my plans for the car, i'll be converting my stock intercooler to water/air this summer to reduce if not eliminate any heat spikes into the intake. water being 4 times more efficiant at cooling.. i like that idea. it will not theoredicly help pre-ignition being as it doesn't raise the combustion temparature of the fuel or anything, but out of the sock turbo, pushing them to their limit they tend to get inefficient and pump hot air as you know. (eventually i will upgrade the turbo as well.) another thing i'm going to be doing is runing dual oil coolers for the oil is responsable for 1/3 the cooling of the engine. another member on this forum had a nicely set up dual oil cooler system, (stockers infact) one mounted behind the other about 12 inches away. the flow rate through the coolers reduces by twice allowing for double the cooling.. if only I wasn't 210 miles away from my car right now.. winter brakes coming WOO.. too many projects and ideas

so a hood is a performance mod... i guess i learn something new everyday.. i guess if i look at is as more efficiently cooling your engine due to better hood is a performance mod.. i can understand that

drift2genrx7

i am now, took us a while to get on the same page, we have to very different minds, we just need to put them together, but i do follow you now, thank you

Luke_Tech

sorry bout he earlier post guys the ebay stuff start tonight around 8

SS124A

I've always just called it a vented or reverse vented hood...
no need to throw dirty works like "induction" in there...


dual oil-coolers are best when mounted one on top of the other.. with a short piece of coupling pipe between them..

one in stock location, one slighter higher and back.. you can fab brackets from that front tubular support to mount the second one.

make all your lines with Goodyear flex tubing.. the blue stuff with proper push in fittings... when you are happy with configuration, you can have the segments re-made in SS braid if you like.. just be sure to recover the SS braid with heater hose or sliced left-over good-year tubing to keep the braid from chaffing other stuff, like wires.... as the stuff does move around from pressure differential.

in a rotary.. the oil actually does closer to 2/3 the cooling... depending on which engine it is.. so you're right it is critcal..
one of the biggest reasons why the second cooler helps is simply due to larger capacity of oil...



Um, I don't like water-air IC's
they are too heavy... typically

consider using meth injection... and a better air/air ic...

or even go to a COmpressed ait style IC..... car more consistant than anything else... and C02 is inert and cheap..

SS124A

OH, one more note.

FC oil-coolers... IMHO opinion, are the best OE engine oil cooler ever produced..

There may be better ones, but I've never seen on in a production car... maybe something exotic..


hell, the Mazda oil-coolers are better than about 95% of the aftermarket units available.

R_PROWESS

iTrader: (3)

we are thinking on the same lines of the oil coolers I just didn't describe their location well enough one placed behind the other could mean many things and I didnt specify, but we are thinking along the same lines. ya 1/3 2/3 I knew it was one of those two but didnt remember clearly. I just like you said knew it's a critical part of the cooling that's what really matters. I like meth injection and all that.. the reson i picked water is because.. well cheap is good but cheap is not free. I don't want to have to replace anything or fill anything up. i like the idea of recycling whats already there and in a closed loop system it does just that. (besides i have the supplies laying around to do it already from misc parts) my rx7 is not my only project thats why it's a slow process. I have a gas turbine/electric hybrid in the making.. i would post pics but it doesnt look like anythign yet.. haven't had time to work on it i would get into it more but this isnt a turbone forum or a hybrid forum or an electric car forum lol

SS124A

make sure you sheild the hell out of your 555 timer...


um.

meth injection would be like a gallon every 3-4 tanks of fuel.. depending on how you set it...

not much to fill..

R_PROWESS

iTrader: (3)

ya thats nice and all but it still negates the whole recycle theory. once you fill the system you can forget about it indefinetly. why do i need a 555 timer? i can do without it.

SS124A

dudes..

I just saw a badd-*** yellow FC drift hardcore from ludwig onto sharon then fly by me....