more dishonesty, the reference is the last paragraph where it started, saying one thing there and the opposite here:

https://www.rx7club.com/single-turbo.../#post12593677


but getting back on topic, I did send the initial Paypal warning shot across the bow due to the lack of response for the last 6 weeks. Hoping more for a response than anything. Again giving some benefit of doubt and wanting to see it resolved with a fulfillment most of all. But most of all hoping he’s ok. As somebody who’s had life happen and also the heart to forgive anyone who can come to the truth, repent, and set their path straight.
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Your willingness to forgive those that wronged you is admirable. However, there is sometimes malice behind the deception, rather than personal struggle that led him to this position. One of those scenarios I'm willing to forgive as well, but being purposeful in your deception, lies, dishonesty and ripping people off doesn't get a free pass in my book, no matter what kind of personal tragedy you want to hang it on. We all go through hardships, it's the way you handle yourself during that hardship that tells the world what kind of man you are. The least you can do in a situation like his is be honest, upfront, and communicate with people, not disappear without a trace leaving people who paid you or left parts in your custody high and dry. That's what swindlers do.

Let's hope he does the right thing, even though at this point it feels far too late.

 

Maybe you should forgive me. Start fresh. Just like you said.

 

Very well said. I think being from the midwest, I naturally trust people and give them the benefit of the doubt. Where I come from, a handshake is your solemn bond. I could rebuild my engine myself and normally prefer to do my own work so that its done to my personal standards. But in this case, I figured it would be more beneficial to pay someone else, while I focused on getting other aspects of the build done concurrently. Besides paint work, I've never had anyone else work on any of my projects.

Didn't know Chip from anyone, but he seemed very capable worked to a standard and precision similar to myself. When I dropped off my motor, I had him show me around his shop as i've spent the majority of my life in these types of enviorments.

I got the impression that Chip was indeed, well qualified and more highly skilled at building an engine than myself. No questions or doubts there. In general conservation with him however, he did seem, I don't know, "angry at things" in general. Like life had dealt him some hardships. I get it, we've all had to deal with this. Still, it did not unduly alarm me. Not even when he told me he needed payment in advance. I did remember thinking it was kind of BS to have this sprung on me after I had coordinated the whole affair and actually showed up to drop my stuff off.

In the end, he told me 3 months, looked me in the eye and shook my hand. I trusted and believed him. Thats been right at a year ago now. He told me he was going keep me informed, let me know if my housings were usable or if he needed to use the good, spare ones I left with him and it would be done and ready by July. He has not delivered on one single thing he told me. Worse, he has not answered one single inquiry I've made since last September (6 months). I have not bombarded him with messages or phone calls, never threatened or even expressed anger in my attempts, only made inquiries every few months.

I believe now that this has all been somewhat deliberate and premeditated from him. He knew what he was doing when he shook my hand and did it anyway. He took my money and has the engine from my car and I'm not the only one he has done this to. I may be good natured, but I'm not naive. He has had ample opportunity to at least inform everyone of the situation, what ever it might be. Running silent sure suggests guilt of some sort. I'll recover from this deception but I won't forget it.

 

I judge every situation individually. Nobody is perfect, let alone 100% through a lifetime. There are mistakes I made in life that could be judged very harshly; rightfully so, but I’m not the same person today as then, and doing my best to not ever make them again.


Which I’m happy to report having received a tracking notice from CM today. So waiting on delivery to further assess the situation as a delayed, yet good conclusion. But every indication for me is no intentional malice or deceit. I like Chip and respect his art, thus allowing some benefit of doubt. I also recognize my situation is not as dire as being two years out on a customer’s engine, etc. and appreciate that someone in that situation may see it differently.
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Chip and I had multiple candid conversations about other rotary shops in the country doing this or doing that and I always shared with him how I ran my shop. We have 7 guys here, That’s a lot of mouths to feed for a performance shop. I Also understand that life gets in the way sometimes. It’s how you handle mistakes that separate the men from the boys. We made a mistake and it cost us and engine for a customers build. Something as simple as an overdriven crank pulley on a supercharged work van. Work vans down cranks ruined and it was time to man up and call the insurance company. My first ever major **** up was on a friends work truck, we took car of the new engine, rental car ect. Was more to rent the car while the van was down than the engine build but you know what, we stood by it. This was Chips mistake and he knew how much this build meant to my business as a promotional vehicle, Having been through the ringer I was super bummed but figured he’d step up and take care of me. May 19 2022 is when the semi p port work leaked and caused the engine failure. July 18th 2022 is when my housing was allegedly shipped but “lost” in the mail. UPS has no further information other than a claim was filed. I sent the only other housing I had in December of 2022 for him to check in the mean time, Thinking if i dont get this back potentually he could use my housing for someone else’s build. He messaged me On 4/27/23 and said my housings done but not the water jacket machining. Said he could ship, I said no why the hell would i run two different designed housings, Its now been another year almost to just do the water jacket work. Im sorry but this is ******* bullshit. Ive been more than patient but when you make mistakes you have to stop and fix the customers who’s **** you messed up before moving on to other work. That’s what accountability and integrity mean to me. You ****** man up and make it right even if it hurts. He was blaming politics all sorts of **** for problems, missing a control board for a machine needing tooling you name it I’ve heard it. He has no problem talking to places like billet rotary store but not the people he’s wronged in his own back yard. Communication goes a long way with me just ask my employees. Its something we are always trying to do better here at the shop. Emergency’s happen life gets in the way but nut up pick up the phone and start reaching out proactively to people that have paid for services parts ect. People always ask how do situations like this develop. Well at our shop customers pay for there parts up front. Then when we start work, depending on what the scope of the jobs is we ask for a deposit to get rolling on the labor portion of the job. I can honestly say we have never burned anyone taken anyone’s money and not provided a service or taken parts. We certainly have had customers try and dispute cc charges after tuning services like snakes, and it was always the people with the shittiest cars that wer ethi biggest pain in the *** to get across the rollers that ended up trying to F us. A few changes to authorizations and signed waivers fixed that. I put a rotary in my race car because I always wanted an rx7, Some of the coolest people I’ve met have been because of this journey. Ive also had the most frustrating journey with said same community engine part manufactures too. I have more to say and with another well known engine builder that rhymes with eyapple but that’s water under the bridge at this point.

 

I hope you don’t feel like I’m in any way disputing your situation or would otherwise feel any different if I were in that situation, or the other similar situations.

For those who maybe didn’t read this thread through thoroughly from the beginning, apparently at some point he recognized that he couldn’t take on any more service work. Because he turned me down for what would have likely be one of the more expensive 13B engine builds on this forum. Specifically telling me he had too much on his plate already.

That occurred before this thread started and these various outstanding service work revelations were ever made known. Because I had no idea about any of this at the time. I was extremely disappointed about it and it’s difficult because I’m struggling to find a single shop that can do everything as requested. Instead I need X done at one shop, Y done at another, and Z as DIY that I was trying to avoid.

Regardless, I received my package from CM today and I’m 100% whole with him now. It had the item from the last order along with an item that had been outstanding on backorder from a previous transaction that was past the claim filing date. Which he had told me they were going to ship out 6 weeks ago. That the parts shipped the next day after noting the issue through the claim process means they were there ready to go.

I’m going to choose to be positive by assuming that shipping them out just got past him and my emails either weren’t getting through or read. And I’m fine with that if he was focused on getting other orders towards completion for other people that are in a much more dire situation. Because my parts weren’t an immediate need.

Again, hoping that other customers still waiting are also made whole sooner rather than later.
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What is the return label on your package? Is it from his shop?

If there's a different return address, there's a few people here who would like to see it...

 

did you end up going to the shop?
he has my motor and $10k

is anyone suing and can in join in on your suite? I haven’t been able to find an attorney willing to take my case

 

the shipping label lists the Ten Mile Road shop address

I was doing some searching/research (different subject) and came across this from back in 2011:

https://www.rx7club.com/chips-motors...sports-948061/

as it stands today is sad, but still staying positive and hopeful that it will all eventually work out for the people heavily invested in time, parts, and money. Everyone in that situation has my sympathy and understanding.
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As much as I appreciate the sentiment..

Thoughts and Prayers? Dude wtf. t's way past time to kneel down and pray.

It's lawyer time.

 

he only has 30 days to file his annual report with the Michigan comptroller or Chips motorsports llc is no longer in good standing and no longer able to conduct business in the state of Michigan. So let’s hope he does this or it will be impossible for all of us to get our motors and money.

 

There you go again being dishonest about my words.

There was no mention of kneeling and praying at all.

Keep trying to blame me, but clearly you’re the one with the hang up over my beliefs being different than your own. Not to mention going out of your way to be blatantly untruthful.
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You are literally the only person vouching for this scumbag, post up your invoice and pictures of the parts received. Starting to feel that you are affiliated some how. You certainly are responsible for giving him an additional month headstart screwing people out of their money. Put that in your bible somewhere. Completely sick of your thumping.

 

 

Hi everyone, I sent Chip my motor and $10,220 back in December of 2022 and haven’t heard from him for a year. Recently (in the last 2 weeks) I have had a server show up to his business 6 times to try and serve him. He hasn’t been at the shop and his neighbors say they haven’t seen him in months. The cops will not get involved and his business license will be expired by the end of the month. It isn’t looking to bright for Chip, his business, and his current clients.
if anyone has updated please let me know.

 

Hey, the only one I’m vouching for is the same One you’re clearly not interested in.

You can be as spitefully angry as you want and unjustly placing blame on whoever you want, but the only person responsible your situation is yourself. I’m not any more responsible for that than anyone else’s predicament. That’s a ridiculous assertion.

You should also be careful about who you call a scumbag; clearly it’s not just about whether a person’s business dealings are straight or not. There’s no doubt you’d call me worse for having done less, even though I’d never do the same to you, not even for those childish words.
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I am not in any "situation" at all, LOL. I knew better than to have ever done business with him.

It is ironic that you are the only person on the planet that can seem to get a response from him. He will not even respond to new potential victims never mind the existing ones. Own your blame, you are the one giving false hope to the people in this thread.

 

I don’t steal or defraud people, just the opposite. Or intentionally lie either. I’m not any different than yourself wrt having my own thoughts, beliefs, and opinions. You’re just as dishonest as that other guy. So much so that you had to jump in and double team me. I’m sure you consider yourself a real nice guy too. Just the same, the part that somebody like yourself doesn’t get is that you do me honor making those kind of statements. Thank you.
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I haven’t been able to serve him. Attached is all the times my server has shown up to his shop

 

This is such a bummer since it's a closish shop for me. I was interested in his manual rack too.

 

wow!!!

 

I hope he gets whats coming to him for all the folks that have been scammed

 

I placed an order a few days back. Is there another number to contact him?

from Canada

any where else to get a complete 12a motor a 1979 restoration??????

 

A few days back?? Did you not read this thread???