Bodyshop

Hey guys. I'm wanting to buy a set of Takata harnesses for my FD and was wondering if anyone knew if I need to buy the long or the short versions. I plan on mounting them to a harness bar that mounts between the rear strut towers.

Thanks a lot!

Mahjik

iTrader: (1)

Any reason you are getting those? They seem quite pricy unless you are building a true race car.

KaiFD3S

iTrader: (37)

yeah 400+ for one is way too much when there are other alternative that will do the job and is way cheaper

Bodyshop

Several Reasons.

1. The functinoality of the the quick release that many other brands don't offer.
2. Added safety since I will no longer have an air bag
3. I love the way they look.
4. I'm getting a deal on them.

sherman2k

iTrader: (1)

If you are getting a deal on them. Do you think you can hook me up for a set?

Bodyshop

I'll see what I can do. Do you want long or short?

DamonB

Even "expensive" camlock harnesses can be had for less than $200.

sherman2k

iTrader: (1)

I will take the short version and harness pads.

Bodyshop

What do you suggest?

DamonB

G-Force

G-Force Outlet

Racer Wholesale

Simpson

Summit Racing

Jeg's

...and a couple dozen others that didn't spring right into mind. If you're paying over $200 for a camlock harness your paying for marketing, not a better product. You can get excellent 6 point camlock harnesses for under $150.

Bodyshop

Thanks for the info.

I still like the exclusiveness, brand, and looks of the Takata, but man they're overpriced!

I'm still trying to find out if I need to buy the long or short versions. Would it help if I got the measurements of the long and short ones.

Thanks again.

Mahjik

iTrader: (1)

Well, if you had the measurements, then you could measure the distances of where you plan to mount them, correct?

DamonB

Everything Takata makes is overpriced bullshit. You're also aware that you have to replace the harness every two years in order to keep with a current SFI?

http://www.sfifoundation.com/seatbelt.html

Here's a list of harness manufacturers from the SFI site:
SFI harness vendors and manufacturers

Bodyshop

Thanks again for the info.

No matter which harness I go with, I want to make sure they are installed correctly. I've heard that the angle the sholder straps are run at is extremely important. Do you have any informatino on the subject.

rynberg

The harness manufacturer and/or racing body should provide maximum angle for the shoulder straps.

I have a question for you though -- are these harnesses for support when tracking the car (used in conjunction with stock belts) or are they going to be the sole safety device? If you are using them without the stock belts, I wouldn't just bolt them to a shock tower bar, no matter how beefy it is. I would only mount it to a dedicated harness bar as part of a rollbar/rollcage or to a chassis point.

Mahjik

iTrader: (1)

He did say he was going to get a harness bar.

Bodyshop,

The harnesses 'should' come with a diagram that shows the optimal angles to be used. My GForce harnesses did.

Keep in mind, that no matter how much they cost, if you are just wanting FIA approved, then all FIA approved went through the same tests. Price differences are for a name, not necessarily a better product.

DamonB

Yep. The install of the harness is every bit as important as the harness itself. Here's what SFI has to say about harness installation:

http://www.sfifoundation.com/seatbelt.html

Bodyshop

Ahh. That's perfect. Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you very much.

muibubbles

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wait.. so regardless what harness you get to be legal to use in racing you need to buy new ones every 2 yearS? or have them inspected every 2 yearS?

Mahjik

iTrader: (1)

IIRC, FIA requires belts they certify to have an expiration on them. It's typically 4 years.

muibubbles

iTrader: (36)

can they be renewed or recertified? or they basically looks after 4 years..?

Mahjik

iTrader: (1)

Most of them can be re-webbed, but in most cases that cost just as much as getting another set. Unless you are doing wheel to wheel racing or time trials, no one will check the expiration on the harness. If you are doing either of those two, these should be the least of your worries.