rybrx7

Im upgrading my rear 6x8's but i dont know which speakers to go for, price range is prob up to the $120-$150 mark, well, im in uk so about £75-£80ish, i did a quick search but dont know what will fit and what are best, could some kind people please point me in the direction of some good sounding speakers that fit in the stock location without modifying??

These are what i was looking at:

http://www.empiredirect.co.uk/produc...affiliateid=98

http://www.mcs-direct.co.uk/cgi-bin/...B=A&PR=-1&GB=A

Thanks in advance

Ryan

SpeedKing

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Infinity KAPPA572.5CF

http://www.mobiletoys.com/partners/i...%2D7&YEAR=1994

The Spyder

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I completly agree with this post.

rybrx7

Cool guys, think i can get them in the UK, just a question though, very noobish, they say they are 2-way speakers, wouldnt therefore 3-way speakers be better??

And on that site, under "note" it says: "BOSE SUB/ENCLOSURE" does that mean the metal holders/brackets for those of us with non bose FD's are insufficient to mount these??

Cheers

Ryan

SpeedKing

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You should be able to get these speakers in the UK. I found this on the eBay UK site:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...093442515&rd=1

3-way speakers are better since the stereo frequencies are split three ways as opposed to two, but that should be reserved for your front stage such as with a 3-way component set since ~80% of what you hear comes from the front. Since these speakers are behind you and will be providing rear fill, it's not that important.

They should mount just fine in a non-BOSE FD.

rybrx7

Just got those infinity kappa speakers, they come with a crossover and reading the manual says i need an amp to power them. Can you now recommend a good amp, such as infinity to power these speakers and whichever front ones i choose to get , or is there a way to hook the crossover up to the built in amp of the headunit?

And if not, would this amp + sub be a good combination with those speakers hooked up and some front ones, or is the amp only adequate enough only to power the sub? Amp + Sub

Thanks

Ryan

tRIcKI^

dont get rear speakers, work on your front stage, get a pair of really good front splits, and just run a sub in the rear for your rear stage. its not exactly as if the rx7 is a large car, so there isnt alot of space to fill, but i generally believe rears are horrible anyhow.

my 2 c's

hmmm, if you must, kappas are fine, dls make a good 6x9

rybrx7

Well i've bought them now

Dont worry i'll get some decent front stage components

The only thing i need now is an amp to power it all.

Seen a deal for an Infinity amp and sub package and it says this:

Now not knowing much about how audio systems works, im confused here, the amp is 240w rms and the sub is 300w rms, so am i missing out on 60w rms of potential audio from the sub?? shouldnt the amp be more powerful than the sub??

Also it says it is a 2/1 channel amplifier?? What does this mean? Does that mean i will not be able to hook the front + back speakers AND the sub up to the amp, and means that only the sub can be hooked up to the amp?? Would this be better for the speakers and sub?? Thanks in advance

Ryan

rybrx7

Ok this is turning into a bit of an essay so i'll keep it brief.

Would the above amp+sub combo "Deal" consisting of boxed 12" sub and 2/1 channel amp be good enough to power my sub, rear and front speakers, or should i cough up the litte extra amount and buy these separate components??

4 Channel Infinity Amp

12" Infinity Sub+Box

The sub is the same as in the "deal" but the amp, at least to my novice eyes, would be far far better?

So would this be a decent audio system, that sub and 4 channel amp, the rear speakers i bought above, and some good front component speakers??

Thanks

Ryan

SpeedKing

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A 2/1 channel amplifier means that you can run either 2 channels (2 speakers), or bridge the 2 channels into 1 (1 speaker, typically a sub).

If you are going to run front and rear speakers and a sub, you'll need either one 5-channel amp (for everything), or two amps, one 2-channel (for the fronts), one 3-channel (for the rears and sub), or three amps, one two channel (for the fronts), another two channel (for the rears), and a one channel (for the sub)! Haha, it gets confusing, not to mention expensive, ya? Well, if it was me, and to keep things simple, I'd run one 4-channel amp, use 2 channels for the fronts, bridge the other 2 channels for the sub, and run the rears off the source unit. Make sense?

As for 240W into a 300W sub, no worries, that's enough power for it to boom.

rybrx7

im torn now looking at the 5/6 channel amp for £40 more

So can crossovers be run from the source unit as in the manual it says the speakers must be connected to the crossover, and the crossover to the amp, and as the source unit has a built in 4x50w amp, would that work??

Cheers again

Ryan

SpeedKing

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Ryan, what are the power specs on that 5/6 channel amp?

I don't quite understand what you are referring to with the manual, but the speaker > crossover > amplifier connection is correct. But seriously though, as I just mentioned, get a high powered 4-channel amp and run 2 channels to the fronts, 2 channels bridged to the sub, and run the rears off the source unit. It's really the simplest most cost-effective way. 80% of what you hear will come from the front, and with the sub booming in the hatch, you won't hear the rears. If you didn't already buy those rear speakers, I would have advised you to forego them.

rybrx7

5/6 channel amp

This is what the manual says (leaflet that came with speakers)

Found here:

http://manuals.harman.com/INF/CAR/Ow...OM%20FINAL.pdf

As amplifiers are built into head/source units (4x50w in my case) can the crossover not be connected to this rather than an external amplifier??

SpeedKing

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Ryan, I forgot that the rear speakers came with crossovers, and yes, they'll need to be connected to an amp. That said, you can run either a 5-channel amp (for everything), or a 4-channel amp (fronts and rears), and one mono amp for the sub. I would go with the latter setup because most manufacturers don't make a 5-channel amp, and they tend to not put out that much power. Here's one I found though that might be of interest:

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-jqnK3g5...&avf=N&search=

On the Infinity RA-6006 (4 x 50 + 2 x 75 Watts RMS @ 4 OHM ) you linked to above, there's no mention if the 2 x 75 Watts can be bridged into one channel for a sub so I can't recommend it.

rybrx7

Right ok makes sense

So my best bet is to get this "deal" and use the amp in the package just to power the sub:

Sub+Amp Package

And then buy a separate 4 channel amplifier to power the front and rear components??

4 Channel Amp

I take it my source head unit will be able to cope with 2 amps connected to it, no probs there??

And my headunit is this:

Source/headunit

Thanks again

Ryan

SpeedKing

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Ryan, your source unit has, "3 RCA high voltage preouts", so you'll be fine. That 4-channel amp is fine. Don't know what component set you'll be going with up front, but if it was me, I'd run something with more power (at least 75W) since component sets generally take a lot of power. The sub+amp link doesn't work. What are the specs?

rybrx7

Whoops my bad on the link here it is again

http://caraudiosecurity.com/

Then under "Featured products on the main page, keep refreshing the main page till you see "Infinity
KAPPA-12 subwoofer + box + RA-7502 amp " for £170, thats the one

(copy and paste it doesnt seem to like the link lol)

As for up front, i was going to go with some of the higher end component speakers from the mobiletoys.com link provided earlier in this thread, maybe not the best ones as they arent cheap, but something like the:

Reference 5000cs

or if i can afford:

50.5cs