lambo door kit released 8/13
#176
<< How about you just PM me your personal problems with me, and save the board. >>
Bill...I got a better idea. How about we just drop it altogether? If you have a problem w/ something I say, just address it directly. No need to attack my experience or knowledge. Just correct me. You'll get much better results (not to mention ppl will think I just got "OWNED" lol) So if you wanna continue it w/ no hard feelings, im more than happy to do the same.
thanx for the clarification on the KAZE-aero cars...cuz I honestly am not familiar w/ them, so I had to ask.
On that note..someone (i forget who) wanted a few shots of how the VLS doors look from the front...that website has a great front shot,and is also a great depiction of what I was talking about (how the doors open too far outward, vs. vertically and swept back) FOR ME. (my opinion).
<< Because you were wrong... it wasnt a problem with the VLS >>
You see...there's in inherent problem in this repsonse. It doesn't matter what you think you know. You HAVE to validate first. It's still irresponsible at best to reply to my point and say I'm wrong w/o validating first. You don't want people to think you answer before being sure...cuz that would lend them doubt in your replies. (and yes the same applies to me as well)
<< I thought I said if it goes out of alignment, that is correctable by aligning it. yes, it could go out of alignment. >>
Hopefully, mine doesn't have the same issue. It's put on so damn solidly, and perfectly from the right time, that all the adjustment issues Decah and VLS see w/ necessary adjustments won't be applicable to me. That's one point Dan was big on...that if you do it right the first time around, the VD kits don't need any further adjustments. And I entirely believe it's possible to make it so that it doesn't need adjustment...the stock hinges don't, now do they? (of course, only time will validate this, but as of now, Dan and I are claiming it wont need readjusting).
Finally...this isn't a challenge...it's a serious in-good-faith request. I dont think you're bound to ever agree w/ me on this, but I hope you at least understood the point I was making about the hinges' vulnerable point. And I personally just wanna know how importprecision addressed that issue, or if it was addressed at all, ie. Basically I want you to try and convince me that it's not a point of vulnerability w/ facts and details. (believe it or not, im an open-minded guy...and like i said before, i have no problem admitting it if you turn out to be right in this case or any other case. cuz it's not about saving face for me here) So just some solid detailed facts are what I'm looking for.
Lastly, I think I can deal much better w/ these shorter and more-to-the-point posts haha. Im sure you and I can both better spend our time
Bill...I got a better idea. How about we just drop it altogether? If you have a problem w/ something I say, just address it directly. No need to attack my experience or knowledge. Just correct me. You'll get much better results (not to mention ppl will think I just got "OWNED" lol) So if you wanna continue it w/ no hard feelings, im more than happy to do the same.
thanx for the clarification on the KAZE-aero cars...cuz I honestly am not familiar w/ them, so I had to ask.
On that note..someone (i forget who) wanted a few shots of how the VLS doors look from the front...that website has a great front shot,and is also a great depiction of what I was talking about (how the doors open too far outward, vs. vertically and swept back) FOR ME. (my opinion).
<< Because you were wrong... it wasnt a problem with the VLS >>
You see...there's in inherent problem in this repsonse. It doesn't matter what you think you know. You HAVE to validate first. It's still irresponsible at best to reply to my point and say I'm wrong w/o validating first. You don't want people to think you answer before being sure...cuz that would lend them doubt in your replies. (and yes the same applies to me as well)
<< I thought I said if it goes out of alignment, that is correctable by aligning it. yes, it could go out of alignment. >>
Hopefully, mine doesn't have the same issue. It's put on so damn solidly, and perfectly from the right time, that all the adjustment issues Decah and VLS see w/ necessary adjustments won't be applicable to me. That's one point Dan was big on...that if you do it right the first time around, the VD kits don't need any further adjustments. And I entirely believe it's possible to make it so that it doesn't need adjustment...the stock hinges don't, now do they? (of course, only time will validate this, but as of now, Dan and I are claiming it wont need readjusting).
Finally...this isn't a challenge...it's a serious in-good-faith request. I dont think you're bound to ever agree w/ me on this, but I hope you at least understood the point I was making about the hinges' vulnerable point. And I personally just wanna know how importprecision addressed that issue, or if it was addressed at all, ie. Basically I want you to try and convince me that it's not a point of vulnerability w/ facts and details. (believe it or not, im an open-minded guy...and like i said before, i have no problem admitting it if you turn out to be right in this case or any other case. cuz it's not about saving face for me here) So just some solid detailed facts are what I'm looking for.
Lastly, I think I can deal much better w/ these shorter and more-to-the-point posts haha. Im sure you and I can both better spend our time
Last edited by FDNewbie; 02-10-04 at 01:30 PM.
#177
Let it rest........let the guy sell his product! I got a solution for you........... don't buy it! I am in the market for one and you have talked me out of the VD because your the one that sounds like a used car salesman with all your argumentitive BS! All the guy has done is defend his product that he feels is a good about.........LET IT GO!
Originally posted by FDNewbie
<< How about you just PM me your personal problems with me, and save the board. >>
Bill...I got a better idea. How about we just drop it altogether? If you have a problem w/ something I say, just address it directly. No need to attack my experience or knowledge. Just correct me. You'll get much better results (not to mention ppl will think I just got "OWNED" lol) So if you wanna continue it w/ no hard feelings, im more than happy to do the same.
thanx for the clarification on the KAZE-aero cars...cuz I honestly am not familiar w/ them, so I had to ask.
On that note..someone (i forget who) wanted a few shots of how the VLS doors look from the front...that website has a great front shot,and is also a great depiction of what I was talking about (how the doors open too far outward, vs. vertically and swept back) FOR ME. (my opinion).
<< Because you were wrong... it wasnt a problem with the VLS >>
You see...there's in inherent problem in this repsonse. It doesn't matter what you think you know. You HAVE to validate first. It's still irresponsible at best to reply to my point and say I'm wrong w/o validating first. You don't want people to think you answer before being sure...cuz that would lend them doubt in your replies. (and yes the same applies to me as well)
<< I thought I said if it goes out of alignment, that is correctable by aligning it. yes, it could go out of alignment. >>
Hopefully, mine doesn't have the same issue. It's put on so damn solidly, and perfectly from the right time, that all the adjustment issues Decah and VLS see w/ necessary adjustments won't be applicable to me. That's one point Dan was big on...that if you do it right the first time around, the VD kits don't need any further adjustments. And I entirely believe it's possible to make it so that it doesn't need adjustment...the stock hinges don't, now do they? (of course, only time will validate this, but as of now, Dan and I are claiming it wont need readjusting).
Finally...this isn't a challenge...it's a serious in-good-faith request. I dont think you're bound to ever agree w/ me on this, but I hope you at least understood the point I was making about the hinges' vulnerable point. And I personally just wanna know how importprecision addressed that issue, or if it was addressed at all, ie. Basically I want you to try and convince me that it's not a point of vulnerability w/ facts and details. (believe it or not, im an open-minded guy...and like i said before, i have no problem admitting it if you turn out to be right in this case or any other case. cuz it's not about saving face for me here) So just some solid detailed facts are what I'm looking for.
Lastly, I think I can deal much better w/ these shorter and more-to-the-point posts haha. Im sure you and I can both better spend our time
<< How about you just PM me your personal problems with me, and save the board. >>
Bill...I got a better idea. How about we just drop it altogether? If you have a problem w/ something I say, just address it directly. No need to attack my experience or knowledge. Just correct me. You'll get much better results (not to mention ppl will think I just got "OWNED" lol) So if you wanna continue it w/ no hard feelings, im more than happy to do the same.
thanx for the clarification on the KAZE-aero cars...cuz I honestly am not familiar w/ them, so I had to ask.
On that note..someone (i forget who) wanted a few shots of how the VLS doors look from the front...that website has a great front shot,and is also a great depiction of what I was talking about (how the doors open too far outward, vs. vertically and swept back) FOR ME. (my opinion).
<< Because you were wrong... it wasnt a problem with the VLS >>
You see...there's in inherent problem in this repsonse. It doesn't matter what you think you know. You HAVE to validate first. It's still irresponsible at best to reply to my point and say I'm wrong w/o validating first. You don't want people to think you answer before being sure...cuz that would lend them doubt in your replies. (and yes the same applies to me as well)
<< I thought I said if it goes out of alignment, that is correctable by aligning it. yes, it could go out of alignment. >>
Hopefully, mine doesn't have the same issue. It's put on so damn solidly, and perfectly from the right time, that all the adjustment issues Decah and VLS see w/ necessary adjustments won't be applicable to me. That's one point Dan was big on...that if you do it right the first time around, the VD kits don't need any further adjustments. And I entirely believe it's possible to make it so that it doesn't need adjustment...the stock hinges don't, now do they? (of course, only time will validate this, but as of now, Dan and I are claiming it wont need readjusting).
Finally...this isn't a challenge...it's a serious in-good-faith request. I dont think you're bound to ever agree w/ me on this, but I hope you at least understood the point I was making about the hinges' vulnerable point. And I personally just wanna know how importprecision addressed that issue, or if it was addressed at all, ie. Basically I want you to try and convince me that it's not a point of vulnerability w/ facts and details. (believe it or not, im an open-minded guy...and like i said before, i have no problem admitting it if you turn out to be right in this case or any other case. cuz it's not about saving face for me here) So just some solid detailed facts are what I'm looking for.
Lastly, I think I can deal much better w/ these shorter and more-to-the-point posts haha. Im sure you and I can both better spend our time
#178
Originally posted by Rx7pimpin
Let it rest........let the guy sell his product! I got a solution for you........... don't buy it! I am in the market for one and you have talked me out of the VD because your the one that sounds like a used car salesman with all your argumentitive BS! All the guy has done is defend his product that he feels is a good about.........LET IT GO!
Let it rest........let the guy sell his product! I got a solution for you........... don't buy it! I am in the market for one and you have talked me out of the VD because your the one that sounds like a used car salesman with all your argumentitive BS! All the guy has done is defend his product that he feels is a good about.........LET IT GO!
I'm not stopping him from selling his product...in fact you just proved that I probably helped him sell his product now since you're convinced the VD one isn't for you. So don't complain
Now if most of you guys feel my posts are useless, then by all means, let me know...cuz in that case I wont waste my or your time. My intention was to help, and if my posts aren't doing that, I might as well give it a rest...
#180
Originally posted by evot23
FDNewbie,
I appreciate the info, the debate just got a little out of hand though (?).
Got any pics of the car?
FDNewbie,
I appreciate the info, the debate just got a little out of hand though (?).
Got any pics of the car?
As for pics...not yet...so close, but not yet =) I was gettin a rack of things done to the car, and its in the works of gettin the final touches as we speak...
It's taken a LONG time...but Dan's a perfectionist and thus takes his time, so I dont wanna rush him...
#181
Originally posted by FDNewbie
Thanks for sharing your feelings RX7pimpin.
I'm not stopping him from selling his product...in fact you just proved that I probably helped him sell his product now since you're convinced the VD one isn't for you. So don't complain
Now if most of you guys feel my posts are useless, then by all means, let me know...cuz in that case I wont waste my or your time. My intention was to help, and if my posts aren't doing that, I might as well give it a rest...
Thanks for sharing your feelings RX7pimpin.
I'm not stopping him from selling his product...in fact you just proved that I probably helped him sell his product now since you're convinced the VD one isn't for you. So don't complain
Now if most of you guys feel my posts are useless, then by all means, let me know...cuz in that case I wont waste my or your time. My intention was to help, and if my posts aren't doing that, I might as well give it a rest...
Lets just wait and see pics, pricing of both kits and let everyone make their own minds up without all the speculation on which is better. As said in the past most of your argument is not based on fact so lets see the products and go from there.
#182
FDnewbie,
I noticed your post in a recent thread in the NE section, and realized you were right next door in DC. What part are you in? There are some meets being discussed, but I'd like to check out your doors in person, and probably chat a bit if you'd like sometime in the future.
I noticed your post in a recent thread in the NE section, and realized you were right next door in DC. What part are you in? There are some meets being discussed, but I'd like to check out your doors in person, and probably chat a bit if you'd like sometime in the future.
#183
Originally posted by Shinobi-X
FDnewbie,
I noticed your post in a recent thread in the NE section, and realized you were right next door in DC. What part are you in? There are some meets being discussed, but I'd like to check out your doors in person, and probably chat a bit if you'd like sometime in the future.
FDnewbie,
I noticed your post in a recent thread in the NE section, and realized you were right next door in DC. What part are you in? There are some meets being discussed, but I'd like to check out your doors in person, and probably chat a bit if you'd like sometime in the future.
Oh wait...i should prob. clarify that's 12 min MY driving on the beltway lol
And yea...hopefully I'll have my car in time for the VA meet @ Chipotle's. You should come out =)
Whether you can make it or not tho, you're more than welcome to check out the doors 1st hand...and im always up for meetin other FD owners. Lemme know
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Here are a couple famous Gull-Wing cars.
The Mercedes 300
The Bricklin
And by the way, any minor misdescription between Lambo/scissors and the VLS systems is nothing compared to calling scissor style Gull Wings. Thats kind of like calling a Merlot a Cab, compared to calling a bottle of Grain Alcohol a bottle of water.
The Mercedes 300
The Bricklin
And by the way, any minor misdescription between Lambo/scissors and the VLS systems is nothing compared to calling scissor style Gull Wings. Thats kind of like calling a Merlot a Cab, compared to calling a bottle of Grain Alcohol a bottle of water.
#188
deft_spyder: what kits on that black FD in your sig? looks like FEED but you have all sorts of crazy GT style splitters on it, i love it, where did you get al that stuff from?
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hewy there,
wish i could tell ya, but off the top of my head i dont know... that kit isnt actually on the car right now... its been replaced, and I never got the name of the old one
wish i could tell ya, but off the top of my head i dont know... that kit isnt actually on the car right now... its been replaced, and I never got the name of the old one
#191
Originally posted by rybrx7
deft_spyder: what kits on that black FD in your sig? looks like FEED but you have all sorts of crazy GT style splitters on it, i love it, where did you get al that stuff from?
deft_spyder: what kits on that black FD in your sig? looks like FEED but you have all sorts of crazy GT style splitters on it, i love it, where did you get al that stuff from?
In any case, here's what I remember (correct me if im wrong ppl):
-the body kit is c-west all around (front bumper, rear bumper, and sideskirts)
-the canards on the front bumper (right in front of the front wheel) are the c-west canards
-the splitter on the bottom of the front bumper isn't an RX7 product...it looks to be a universal splitter that you can get from websites that sell products for the Dodge Viper
-the splitters/lip on the c-west sideskirts was never resolved...ppl say it looked like the feed CF lip, others said it doesnt and was prob a custom CF peice (Redline was painted on)
-the rear splitters are simply the optional attachments for the RE rear diffuser. he just chose to attach them in the same manner the front splitter was (w/ those wire thingies)
-spoiler...i have no idea (someone know?)
-the hood is scoot (origina/replica?)
-the sleek headlights I believe are also c-west...although I cant tell for sure from the angle the pic is taken
-z3 style fenders...dunno. i think they might be made by border???
-rims...you're on your own. dont know, and don't like chrome on FDs
-oh and of course, the VLS lambo doors
hope that helps
Last edited by FDNewbie; 02-13-04 at 07:23 PM.
#193
Originally posted by fastcarfreak
is that a corsica parked next to the mercedes. thats just funny
is that a corsica parked next to the mercedes. thats just funny
if you look at the pic closely, i think it's taken at a shell gas station...not at some exhibition. that prob. explains the corsica sittin next to the benz...
Last edited by FDNewbie; 02-14-04 at 01:00 AM.
#194
PVerdieck, I just had to thank you for posting a picture of true automotive art... man...as many times as I've seen that benz, it never fails to leave me in awe... beautiful. simply beautiful.
What are those Bricklins? Never heard of 'em...but they look awfully a lot like the old school Corvettes...
While we're at it...you wanna see some REAL custom work? I'm talkin OMG I don't even wanna BEGIN to think how much this cost...check this pic out.
What are those Bricklins? Never heard of 'em...but they look awfully a lot like the old school Corvettes...
While we're at it...you wanna see some REAL custom work? I'm talkin OMG I don't even wanna BEGIN to think how much this cost...check this pic out.
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Has anyone seen or heard anything about this kit??
http://www.extremedimensions.com/shopexd.asp?id=4554
It's listed as a carbon creation product.
-Kevin
http://www.extremedimensions.com/shopexd.asp?id=4554
It's listed as a carbon creation product.
-Kevin
#197
Evot23, I checked out that website just a few days ago by accident...and I was like hmm...I wonder who makes those doors! lol
I don't think they're the same kit...you'd be surprised all of a sudden how *every* aftermarket seller wants to come out w/ their own doors...I think even VIS Racing has lambo doors on their website now...
and this is a guess, but id venture to say that they're prob makin their own kits themselves. If it's a distributor, the HAVE to say "importprecision doors" or "verticaldoors.com doors" or even "decah doors"
But you're right in one sense...no kit I've seen so far looks like or can be mistaken for the VLS kit.
Sorry I dont have anything more informative to say... I'd just email/call 'em and ask them who's kit they're using...(and I'd stay away from ones that no one we know has experience w/ obviously...)
I don't think they're the same kit...you'd be surprised all of a sudden how *every* aftermarket seller wants to come out w/ their own doors...I think even VIS Racing has lambo doors on their website now...
and this is a guess, but id venture to say that they're prob makin their own kits themselves. If it's a distributor, the HAVE to say "importprecision doors" or "verticaldoors.com doors" or even "decah doors"
But you're right in one sense...no kit I've seen so far looks like or can be mistaken for the VLS kit.
Sorry I dont have anything more informative to say... I'd just email/call 'em and ask them who's kit they're using...(and I'd stay away from ones that no one we know has experience w/ obviously...)
#199
Yea plz dont remind me. I'm gettin real annoyed...since it looks like soon enough you're gonna pull up to the gas station pump w/ your 7's lambo doors, and the neon next to you has lambo doors to...
Actually, at the last 7 meet in MD, i remember we saw a civic roll up w/ vertical doors...so in that sense it can really get to me real quick
Actually, at the last 7 meet in MD, i remember we saw a civic roll up w/ vertical doors...so in that sense it can really get to me real quick
#200
Originally posted by FDNewbie
Yea plz dont remind me. I'm gettin real annoyed...since it looks like soon enough you're gonna pull up to the gas station pump w/ your 7's lambo doors, and the neon next to you has lambo doors to...
Actually, at the last 7 meet in MD, i remember we saw a civic roll up w/ vertical doors...so in that sense it can really get to me real quick
Yea plz dont remind me. I'm gettin real annoyed...since it looks like soon enough you're gonna pull up to the gas station pump w/ your 7's lambo doors, and the neon next to you has lambo doors to...
Actually, at the last 7 meet in MD, i remember we saw a civic roll up w/ vertical doors...so in that sense it can really get to me real quick