Matty's first 1st Gen

Hey guys i'm gonna be buying a HVLP spray gun mainly for touchups, and possiable paint jobs on the 7. I'm trying to figure out which one to buy, I have 2 in mind here, one is a porter cable PSH1 and the other is a sharpe finex 1.4-1.8mm. I found these 2 guns in different sections on amazon, the first in the air tools section, and the second in the automotive tools section, so i'm wondering the difference if any between an automotive gun, and the other kinds. thanks guys.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...&s=hi&n=552712

and the second choice
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...?v=glance&s=hi

seems to me that one is adjustable and the other isn't, correct me if i'm wrong

LT1-7

All paint guns are adjustable.

Get this one

http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/p...ProductID=1876

You might spend alittle more but you'll know where the money went to. It's still on the cheap side, but it's a pretty good gun. Those other guns you listed are just about as good as the junk they sell on ebay for $40

Also, if you're just doing small projects, use smaller tips like 1.4mm or 1.5mm.

1revn3rdgen

iTrader: (27)

I wouldn't get a sharpe for paint jobs.

Black Magic

iTrader: (2)

i use a sharpe cobalt for base coats and my baby the Sata jet digital for the clear. and a $49 **** gun for primer. :-D

Matty's first 1st Gen

that looks like a good gun but my problem is that i ahve a 100 gift certificate to amazon.com so i'd really rather pick something from that site. So what is the big difference between these guns, and what is a feature that i should be looking for? Is it even possiable to get fair results from that porter cable gun? or not. there are 14 feedback replies, and they all said it was a good gun. I'm a bit over my head on this one.

t-von

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So how does that $49 **** gun do for primers? Also does the cobalt do a good job for the base coat so that color sanding isn't need before you apply the clear?

1revn3rdgen

iTrader: (27)

It's possilbe to get fair results from any gun it just has to do with how much experience you have.If you want to do a paint job the nozzle of the gun should be from 1.3-1.5

keynote22

It's all in the set up and technique. What makes the difference between a good gun and a crap gun is how long it lasts and how easy is it to repair. Better guns tend to have more stainless = easier to clean and last long time. Cheaper guns tend to have carbon steel and brass = rust and fall apart. Air cap design and atomization also makes a big difference. Sata and Kremlin are big into their air cap technology for better atomization. Some paints dont like those guns because they actually dry the paint in the air causing orange peal. . Some guns are designed to spray certain kinds of materials...i.e. urethane or lacquer

Automotive guns are designed for class A finish...meaning they atomize finer and require less color sanding. Industrial grade guns are designed for heavier flow rates..i.e. rust proofing metal fence posts. An industrial gun can be automotive grade with the right needle nozzle set up.

Those guns are hobby guns designed to be thrown away after they wear out. They will work resonably well until they wear out..then replacement parts will be difficult to get or not worth the effort. Camble Hosfield sells a lot of guns like this--Lowes, Home depot, Grainger

FWIW you want the best coat to be the prime coat as the base and clear will magnify the flaws. People often use cheap guns for primer as the primers tend to destroy guns the fastest.

Between your 2 guns..the first is an Iwata w71 knock of...the second is a Sata spray jet knock off. Go with the Porter Cable because it give you more controls on the gun. The bottom **** is to adjust air flow into the gun and the top ones adjust air and fans shape. The second Gun does not give you the inbound air control so you will have to have another air reg on your compressor.

Let the material supplier tell you what size tip to use with their paint and how to set it up/thin it out. Clear uses a smaller tip than base usually. Honestly, go with the gun from your paint supplier so he can tell you how to set it up. You will save yourself a lot fo heart ache in the end.

FWIW the gun they use at most automotive plants is the Graco Delta at about $199. The Iwata w71 is also popular at $220. They are both extremely easy to set up and use. Satas are most often used in local repair shops because they are given away by paint suppliers and because they have more finite controls than other guns..i.e. fans size and material flow controls right on the gun. They are also more like $400.

The Iwata is probably better for the beginner. I sell this stuff for a living

Matty's first 1st Gen

Thank you so much, thats exactly what i wanted to know. thats great information. you have helped me out so much. You are a champ of spray guns.