dclin

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Ramy, ask Voodoo if there is any more space that can be machined out in the **** between the top of the shift lever and near the top of the ****. If there is, that could be used to hold the lead/etc. Since Voodoo is a small operation, I'm sure they can work with you if it's possible.

I prefer a heavy **** too (ok, that sounded a bit weird), and I went with the FEED ****. It's cylinder shaped though.

poseurp

Easy, make one...




Umm, howmuch weight are you thinking? the metallic finish you'd be looking for would likely be most easily done with brushed aluminum.

DamonB

When you need extra power does the hatch pop open and a jet engine come out?

FDNewbie

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I'll ask them and we'll see what they say. But from the email I got from them, they seemed to be very clear on the standard products they have, period. To the point that they stopped the Titanium, and wouldn't special order any more.

Would you happen to know anyone I can ship the **** to who can see if it can be machined, and if so, do it and add some lead etc to it? It's only a $30 part, so it's worth a shot, even if it doesn't work lol

Yea...too bad I don't have that machine in my basement Can those machines cut spheres?

I'm thinking about a pound. And prob w/ aluminum is it's really light.

No, when I need extra power, I press a button and yell "Kit...Super Pursuit Mode!"

Mahjik

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Ramy,

Just get the darn Momo one, use thread lock on the screws and call it done. You know I beat my car on the track and my old Sparco (which used screws) never came loose from all that beating.

Heck, my aftermarket e-brake handle on my M3 is the same way; thread lock on the screws and no problems and that's my DD so it does bounce around the road every day.

poseurp

Lathe, you can do prettymuch anything. just a matter of either building the right cutting tool, or careful control. I'm thinking of doing a weighted ball for my next one actually. Hell you could go ghetto, and spraypaint a poolball.

FDNewbie

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Mahjik, the Momo ones aren't weighted. But they're a good size, that's for sure. In fact, the Momo ones are REALLY light. They allow my B&M to rattle. Kirks me out.

poseurp a poolball haha. You're crazy. That's HUGE LOL.

Mahjik

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Then get a Razo **** if you want one weighted:

http://www.imotorgear.com/product.as...=18050000P0021

Their ***** typically use the universal screw on using various size plastic adapters.

FDNewbie

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UPC: 047998765160
Manufacturer Part Number: RA21
Weight: 7 lb.

Are they serious?! (Taken from http://www.cartoys.com/cartoys/showd...oduct_ID/23623)

EDIT: Forget it... http://www.unrealautosports.com/shop...azo+Gear+***** shows the weight to be 140 gm (.3 lbs). The heaviest round ball one they have (black) is 340 gm (.75 lbs). A couple of other websites listed the same weights. So that's the correct one.

The Voodoo I'm getting is heavier (6.5 oz, ie .4 lbs), and isn't universal - it's a direct fit for the FD (and Miata), plus it's not polished; it's brush aluminum. I think it's the best way to go so far - although I REALLY appreciate your help Mahjik. Really.

Still interested in adding weight to the Voodoo **** tho... any ideas anyone?

Mahjik

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You really don't need it too heavy. I have a Razo **** (not the ball kind) and the weight is pretty much perfect. It's heavier than the stock ****, but not enough to add the weight of a small child into the car.

Ramy, your just making a mountain out of ant hill with this deal. After a certain point, more weight to the shifter **** is pointless. If your shifter is noisy, fix the shifter. I've used three different ***** with my RX-7 Store/Pettit shifter and no noise at all. If your shifter is making noise, don't mask the problem, fix it.

Double the weight of the Voodoo:

http://www.machv.com/rahemebakn.html

FDNewbie

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Mahjik,

I gotta admit...I fibbed a little lol. My B&M doesn't rattle lol. But the ring on the Momo **** does haha. Really

I know need vs. want...but I'm just one of those stubborn guys who's really particular about what they want, that's all. I'll give the Voodoo a shot (it's already on it's way to my house anyway). That Razo heavy metal ball one is indeed badass, but it's black. I need a brush aluminum look (This is right about the time at which you wanna lock this thread, isn't it? )

BTW...you said your Razo is heavier than the stock one. Isn't the stock shifter practically a full pound?? I've never seen a shifter that heavy...

dclin

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Hey Ramy, most any machine shop can do the work for you. I'm assuming there is a bit of room for material to be machined out, but you'll have to measure when you get it in.

Having said that, I don't know if the effort would be worth it. What ever aluminum you can carve out will be replaced with the same amount of lead (or whatever you use). The difference may not be a whole lot.

I say get the **** in and try it out. If you still need something heavier, take the **** to a local machine shop and have it duplicated in SS. It's a pretty straight forward design, and any machine shop should be able to duplicate it w/o any problem.

Mahjik

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A super heavy ball doesn't fix that problem. A "light" ball will also fix the problem if it's all one piece. Your problem is that the **** is multiple pieces, not that it's "light".

IMO, you are trying to go after something that is not going to make a difference verses what you can just order today. Momo or Voodoo, if you are just trying to get rid of the rattle, there are always ways to do that *IF* you like the **** you currently have.

The stock shifter is not that heavy. I have the 400 gram Razo **** and it's much heavier than the stock shifter.

FDNewbie

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Mahjik,

I'm not looking for a heavier **** to fix a rattle. I was commenting that my mention of a shifter rattling wasn't specific to my case. Hence the "fibbing" part. And the bottom of the **** rattling, I know can be fixed w/ some lock tite etc.

What I AM saying tho is, I want a spherical brushed aluminum ****. Why would I bother w/ a Momo that will require fastening the ring, plus locktite to hold the set screws, when I can order a **** - that's cheaper, mind you - that'll screw right on, no additional effort necessary? I'm not trying to fix anything; just don't see the point into putting money into something universal that will require additional effort when I can buy something exactly like I want that's good to go out of the box.

Plus, again, Momo ***** are SUPER light. I didn't like the feel of it from the moment I put it on. At least the Voodoo one is already weighted - just not as heavy as I'd like it to be.

I think you're perceiving what I want to be as a solution to something, which isn't my aim. My aim is simple: I don't like light *****, so Momo is out from the get-go. Then, I'd like it to have the brushed aluminum look. That leaves Voodoo and Razo *****. Razo's universal, w/ the different washers to fit it properly etc, and the one I wanted is in black, not silver. Plus the silver one that's closest to it is discontinued. That leaves the Voodoo one. It's that simple. That's my mindset/thought process. NOT let me fix this or that prob. Want heavy, then the look in a screw on ready to go format.

~Ramy

Mahjik

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No, what I'm saying is just get one that is already made and use it. You were making comments on how to get a **** and then add to it to make it heavier (for what purpose I have no idea since you have switch reasons 10 times in this thread).

Obviously once you get past a certain point, more weight is pointless or else people would be selling 5lb shift *****. Just buy the **** and use it as is. Adding more weight to is going to do nothing performance wise... Maybe give you some more unsprung weight to slow down your 1/4 mile.

FDNewbie

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You asked diff. questions, some that were general like why I'd want a heavier one, etc. But my original post clearly indicated what I was looking for, and I didn't veer from that. Here it is:

Like I said, weighted eliminates Momo's, as does the screw-on. Not saying it won't work...but it's my preference. That's all that it comes down to. That leaves you w/ round, and silver (which as per dclin's suggesstion, evolved into a brushed aluminum look). No flip-flopping here. If anything, I'm kinda surprised you're taking such great interest in this But hey, Mahjik's comments are ALWAYS welcomed

Of course...and I'll try it out as is and see what it's like. I just really liked the feel (weight-wise) of the stocker, so I was hoping the **** I get would be the same weight. But I'll admit, I haven't weighed it w/ a very accurate scale. The scale I used only shows lbs (nothing in between), and it showed it at a full pound. But you said otherwise, and i'll take you at your word.

Oh and good point about the whole unsprung weight. But a), I'm starting to subscribe to the domestic mentality...more weight? Just add power I'll try and slim down on stuff here and there, but again, them door hinges ain't exactly helpin b) I don't like drag racing. I respect it, but if I wanted to drag, I'd buy a Mustang, and w/ only $3K, I can be seeing high 10's, without breaking every driveline componenet along the way. The FD is a purpose-built car, and that's for the track (roadcourse). The twisties. So I'm not too concerned w/ straight like 1/4 mile purpose. From a roll however, definitely And those usually reach speeds at which weight doesn't become the greatest concern; aerodynamics do (or so I've learned from the huge thread w/ Jimlab).

Mahjik

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What I was referring to was just buying something that's already out there. Nothing is ever "perfect". You might find one the right color but not the right mounting type. You might find the right mounting type but not the right color or you might one one that has the right weight but not the right color or the right mounting type. Pick was more important to you (color or mounting type or weight) and get that one. You aren't always going to get "exactly" what you want. And when it comes to a shift ****? It's just not that serious.

Ramy,

If pretty much all the weighted shift ***** out there are less than 1lb, why try to weigh the stocker with something that only measures in lbs?

I think you missed the boat on this one. That was sarcasm on the unsprung weight comment (noted by the "smilie"). I think it's already obvious that making a lightweight car is not a priority of yours which is why it should have been seen as sarcasm pretty easily.

RE Suzuki

Why not get a RAZO shift ****. Straight screw on for rx7 and miata. I had'em for my miata for awhile.

Mahjik

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Not the right color.

FDNewbie

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Dude...I'm losing sleep over this... LOL (that's sarcasm for ya )

Don't have a scale at home that measures in smaller increments. I'll try and remember to take the **** w/ me to the post office the next time I go, and weigh it on those automated postage machines.

Mahjik, I def. picked up on the sarcasm. But I just chose to put my $0.02 in there anyway. Just cuz you don't respond in kind doesn't mean you didn't recognize it. They're two separate steps

Mahjik

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What exactly are you trying to see by weighing the stock one?

I guess my question is, if you find a shift **** with the right color and mounting type, but its lighter than the stock unit; will that make it bad? IMO, forget about the weight, find the color and/or the mounting type you want to get it. If they have different versions (like the Razo *****) with different weights of the same **** you want, then get the heaviest one.

FDNewbie

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Oh I'm just curious what the stocker weighs, that's all. It won't affect my impression of the new ****. The fact that it is weighted means it'll be an improvement over my current Momo.

DamonB

"Unsprung weight" only includes components that move when the suspension moves. You could use a boat anchor as a shift **** and not increase your unsprung weight.

Mahjik

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I'll see if I can find something around to compare it to my Razo. When I first had the Razo, I held them both and the Razo "felt" heavier, but not by much (and it's the 400g so about .8 of a pound).

The stock **** is heavy, but there are some aftermarket ones a little heavier.

Tanjo

The STi has anoption for a Titanium shift **** thatll fit an FB, so I think itll fit anything. Anyways, Its awesome, fels really nice and is round and everything. Its the cheapest if you wanna go to a Suby dealer and "aquire" one.