Bose speakers with aftermarket deck
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I have the 93 FD touring, it has the BOSE system. I went to car toys to get a new deck because the one in the car wont read CD's and it just shuts off. So at car toys I tell them the car I have and they tell me they cant just replace the deck because of the speakers. The guy who installs teh stuff was telling me the bose speakers run at 1 Ohm and they would blow the deck. Now on this i was fishy about, so they then proceed to tell me how I need the deck and all new speakers, but then the tell me how they cant use the stock wiring, so in all they would need to install the deck which was $260 and then install the speakers, which had the crossovers and the tweeters because thats all that would work for my car, for $140 a pair, and then $140 for the custom rear speakers. And then to rip everything out and re-wire the whole care they wanted $250. After hearing all this I was abuot to walk out, but for ***** I asked about subs in the back, they said they couldnt put a normal box in, and they would have to custom make it for $500 so after this I just kind of laughed and left because all i wanted was a $260 deck, and i walked out with a $2800 dollar estimate. Is any of this true, mainly the deck and stock speakers
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https://www.rx7club.com/interior-exterior-audio-26/bose-schosche-adapter-42023/
All is answered there... I went through this reacently and even added a few Q's of my own to it which were quickly answered in that thread.
To sum it up, they are retards and are trying to rip you off. With the $50 Schoche adapter you can use any deck you want with the stock Bose system. It will probably sound better than the stock deck due to advanced EQ's that some aftermarket decks offer. I got the Pioneer M6800MP and it has a 13band digital EQ and it has worked out great for me.
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All is answered there... I went through this reacently and even added a few Q's of my own to it which were quickly answered in that thread.
To sum it up, they are retards and are trying to rip you off. With the $50 Schoche adapter you can use any deck you want with the stock Bose system. It will probably sound better than the stock deck due to advanced EQ's that some aftermarket decks offer. I got the Pioneer M6800MP and it has a 13band digital EQ and it has worked out great for me.
~Kris
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I bought my schosche adapter from www.crutchfield.com to use with my Clarion deck. Installation was super easy and the sound system sounds better than ever. Go to crutchfield's website, put in your cars make, model & year and it will find you the schosche adapter you need.
NOTE!: You need a male to male antenna adapter to use your stock antenna. After removing your stock Bose radio, you'll see that the antenna wiring in your car has a female end. Your new aftermarket head unit will also have a female plug in the back of it. I didnt know about this until I was getting ready to put my headunit back in and realized you cant plug the antenna in. After about 3 hours of running around looking for this adapter, I finally found it.
Things you need:
- Aftermarket stereo
- Schosche harness
- Male to male antenna adapter. $10-20 bux.
NOTE!: You need a male to male antenna adapter to use your stock antenna. After removing your stock Bose radio, you'll see that the antenna wiring in your car has a female end. Your new aftermarket head unit will also have a female plug in the back of it. I didnt know about this until I was getting ready to put my headunit back in and realized you cant plug the antenna in. After about 3 hours of running around looking for this adapter, I finally found it.
Things you need:
- Aftermarket stereo
- Schosche harness
- Male to male antenna adapter. $10-20 bux.
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**** $2800 bucks you should report them to BBB for *shady* practices.
Actually,
The bose speakers are 1 ohm. The bose deck is passive meaning that it really does not put out any (much) power and that is why each speaker has it's own individual amp.
I have the Bose snake connected to an alpine stereo and I am also runing aftermarket speakers. All I had to do is buy an attenuator to bring down the power from the stereo (not passive) to the snake. It's been working great for 3 years.
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The bose speakers are 1 ohm. The bose deck is passive meaning that it really does not put out any (much) power and that is why each speaker has it's own individual amp.
I have the Bose snake connected to an alpine stereo and I am also runing aftermarket speakers. All I had to do is buy an attenuator to bring down the power from the stereo (not passive) to the snake. It's been working great for 3 years.
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Originally Posted by Mazdabation
Why does no one else mention this "attenuator"? Is this something that every deck will need also, along with the items WAN mentions? Or is this beacause you have the aftermarket speakers.....
Not for your application. Just get the adapter and you will be fine.
Yes I needed the attenuator because I had an aftermarket deck and speakers. Like I said earlier each bose speaker has it's on amp so it's expecting a low level signal from the stereo so it can add power to it. With an aftermarket stereo the signal is high (power). So now the speaker is seeing a high level signal then on top of that it amplifies it even more, and the little speaker cannot handle it. So I stuck an attenuator on it to bring down the power (only on that line) and it works perfectly.
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Originally Posted by wan
NOTE!: You need a male to male antenna adapter to use your stock antenna. After removing your stock Bose radio, you'll see that the antenna wiring in your car has a female end. Your new aftermarket head unit will also have a female plug in the back of it. I didnt know about this until I was getting ready to put my headunit back in and realized you cant plug the antenna in. After about 3 hours of running around looking for this adapter, I finally found it.
- Male to male antenna adapter. $10-20 bux.
- Male to male antenna adapter. $10-20 bux.
Also something that isnt mentioned, with the amp-PWR on cable spliced into the Schoche adapter, the mast always goes up when in Tuner or CD not just Tuner.. was I suppose to leave one side disc.? I just used a butt-connector and slid two lines in one side and one in the other side and crimped. I can get a pic if needed. I want to add that information as well for future referance incase someone is dumb like me :/
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Originally Posted by JaNusSolSumnus
This isnt mentioned in the stickied 'BOSE' thread, so I'll make a post adding it with a pic as soon as I get mine in.
Also something that isnt mentioned, with the amp-PWR on cable spliced into the Schoche adapter, the mast always goes up when in Tuner or CD not just Tuner.. was I suppose to leave one side disc.? I just used a butt-connector and slid two lines in one side and one in the other side and crimped. I can get a pic if needed. I want to add that information as well for future referance incase someone is dumb like me :/
~Kris
Also something that isnt mentioned, with the amp-PWR on cable spliced into the Schoche adapter, the mast always goes up when in Tuner or CD not just Tuner.. was I suppose to leave one side disc.? I just used a butt-connector and slid two lines in one side and one in the other side and crimped. I can get a pic if needed. I want to add that information as well for future referance incase someone is dumb like me :/
~Kris
Hmm... what wiring diagram did you use? I'm not sure if Im understanding you correctly, but does the mast go up in either function because the wiring directions said to wire it like that or because you did it like that on your own?
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I have a lot of experience with aftermarket auto audio installation and I would say that most likely it is the CD head unit itself that is making your antenae stay up even with the CD on. I have had that issue on several vehicles I have installed in. Some CD players send the aux signal to the antennae based on input mode and others send constant power. Try reading your manual on the head unit you put in and it should say somewhere in small print if that is the case. From my experience I think Sony and Pioneer only put the antena up in tuner mode and Jensen, aiwa, and some others put out constant signal (up whenever unit is on). I'm sure it just depends on the brand and the particular unit itself as to how it is programmed. Hope that helps.
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The radio is for sure keeping the antenna up. only few car audio companies produce radios that have a seperate antenna turn on. alpine is one some clarions do. pioneer does not will not and never will. the circuit for the antenna turn on is very simple they should all use it. most cars have power antennas now get a clue.
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Originally Posted by wan
Hmm... what wiring diagram did you use? I'm not sure if Im understanding you correctly, but does the mast go up in either function because the wiring directions said to wire it like that or because you did it like that on your own?
Originally Posted by hanknmorgan
I have a lot of experience with aftermarket auto audio installation and I would say that most likely it is the CD head unit itself that is making your antenae stay up even with the CD on. I have had that issue on several vehicles I have installed in. Some CD players send the aux signal to the antennae based on input mode and others send constant power. Try reading your manual on the head unit you put in and it should say somewhere in small print if that is the case. From my experience I think Sony and Pioneer only put the antena up in tuner mode and Jensen, aiwa, and some others put out constant signal (up whenever unit is on). I'm sure it just depends on the brand and the particular unit itself as to how it is programmed. Hope that helps.
Originally Posted by Benrex
The radio is for sure keeping the antenna up. only few car audio companies produce radios that have a seperate antenna turn on. alpine is one some clarions do. pioneer does not will not and never will. the circuit for the antenna turn on is very simple they should all use it. most cars have power antennas now get a clue.
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Haven't read any of the posts except for the first, but I am running my bose system with an aftermarket deck and it works perfect. I think all you really need is something called an amp intergrator. I got mine installed by Best Buy, and like I said it dosen't have any problems.