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Old 02-17-13, 10:03 PM
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OH Haltech E6K No Injector Pulse or Spark after Sitting Dead Battery (Cincinnati, Help?)

Help! I have been storing my RX for about 3years. It was getting started and driven about once a year in there. Every time the battery was completely dead, but after a jump start it had no probs. I took it out of storage - for the last time, I hoped, to sell it - and no spark or fuel? My poor uncle (I live out of state now) was trying to get the laptop to connect - I wanted to see if the maps were okay, and if the data page was registering any engine rotation - but the lappy too has some some issues from being dead for so long....

Any ideas?

I did a search, one person had a prob with an E6K map unloading itself. Does anyone know if this happens to E6Ks?

Anything else I could ask my uncle to diagnose/check to narrow down the issue?

Fuel pump is cycling fine. All fuses are okay. Plugs are dry and not sparking though.

Anyone live on the East side on Cincinnati (New Richmond / Amelia / Bethel area) that is familiar with reloading the Haltech program in my crusty laptop (my uncle is a car guy, but not a stand alone/computer guy)? I could toss a couple totes full of rotors, housings, internal engine parts, maybe starter, other stuff, etc your way - and a BIG thank you!

Thanks,
-J

Low voltage, no pulse, sparking, not, sit, volts, no start,
Old 02-18-13, 08:36 PM
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is the battery charged? a low voltage on the battery will make the haltech cranky.
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is the battery charged? a low voltage on the battery will make the haltech cranky.
yeah, we brought the battery back up.
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did you try to jump the car? the settings should be on there for good unless you overwrite them.

HOWEVER, i heard of the ecu loosing settings after sitting.

Maybe a fuse or a relay? CHECK EVERYTHING!!
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Originally Posted by SirCygnus
did you try to jump the car? the settings should be on there for good unless you overwrite them.

HOWEVER, i heard of the ecu loosing settings after sitting.

Maybe a fuse or a relay? CHECK EVERYTHING!!
I think my uncle just put a charger on it, but it should be fully charged. That's what threw me, I thought the settings should be there for good too! They were definitely not overwritten.

I'm hoping it's the odd case were the ECU DOES lose it's setttings...now if I could just get my laptop back from the dead - that were the latest map is stored.

Fuses look to be okay. I know there was another Haltech relay other than fuel pump...what was that for? All this is from 3-5yr old memories for me...

Thanks,
-J
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Originally Posted by pistonsuk
I think my uncle just put a charger on it, but it should be fully charged. That's what threw me, I thought the settings should be there for good too! They were definitely not overwritten.

I'm hoping it's the odd case were the ECU DOES lose it's setttings...now if I could just get my laptop back from the dead - that were the latest map is stored.

Fuses look to be okay. I know there was another Haltech relay other than fuel pump...what was that for? All this is from 3-5yr old memories for me...

Thanks,
-J
The other relay is the Main power relay, I have the exact opposite of yours but, I never got mine running still -20's im waiting till my fingers got feeling.
I get Spark, but bad timing and lack of fuel pressure due to poor signal from the trigger which is from a stock connector, not a switch.

Too check the the main bases I asume you could check the fuel pressure, as well as try cranking the engine with the injectors off, to check for spark by doing the hitmans guide test section. I asume that will eliminate the fuel/spark issue.
Now that I think of it, Their might be something metioned in the FAQ? and troubleshoots

Well if you can get online with the haltech, that clears up voltage.
After that im skunked, hope that helps any.
If you can get online thats gets a good 50/50.

The only thing that worries, is the fact that you said it's been stored for 3 years, and from the majority of the negative repleys might say the seals are sticking? IDK GL
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its been stored for a total of three years, and driven every year to keep it great.

also, when was fresh gasoline put into it?

the battery in it is toasted. unless its an optima, the battery is thrashed. try it all out with a new battery.
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The other relay is the Main power relay, I have the exact opposite of yours but, I never got mine running still -20's im waiting till my fingers got feeling.
I get Spark, but bad timing and lack of fuel pressure due to poor signal from the trigger which is from a stock connector, not a switch.

Too check the the main bases I asume you could check the fuel pressure, as well as try cranking the engine with the injectors off, to check for spark by doing the hitmans guide test section. I asume that will eliminate the fuel/spark issue.
Now that I think of it, Their might be something metioned in the FAQ? and troubleshoots

Well if you can get online with the haltech, that clears up voltage.
After that im skunked, hope that helps any.
If you can get online thats gets a good 50/50.

The only thing that worries, is the fact that you said it's been stored for 3 years, and from the majority of the negative repleys might say the seals are sticking? IDK GL
Hey thanks for the input. I'm going to have my uncle check that main relay.

When I store cars/bikes etc I run some two stroke gas in them befoe letting them sit. That puts a light coat of oil on all the irons seals, etc. Keeps them nice. I also put in fuel stable when I parked it and some fresh gas this week.
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Originally Posted by SirCygnus
its been stored for a total of three years, and driven every year to keep it great.

also, when was fresh gasoline put into it?

the battery in it is toasted. unless its an optima, the battery is thrashed. try it all out with a new battery.
agreed, letting a battery sit really kills them. the battery is only a couple months old, it hold charge decently.

thanks for input.

I'm going to have my uncle mail out the laptop so I can bring it back to life and get familiar enough to step him through reloading the lastest map after sending it back to him. I'm banking on the weird issue with the maps being wiped out.

-J
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Well, I got the laptop to work and the engine data page has confirmed the ECU is not seeing a tach/crank signal. They hooked up a spare CAS and spun it by hand - nothing. I'm going to have them check the continuity from the CAS to the ECU.

-J
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