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Old 03-31-05 | 04:41 AM
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does e6k map work with the e6x?

I saw this e6x on sale in ebay and the seller claim that you can use e6k map with the e6x. Is this true because I remember reading somewhere that they are not interchageable.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW
Old 03-31-05 | 08:43 AM
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yes, you can import the maps.

The setup will need to be done again but the maps will be there.
Old 04-01-05 | 04:10 AM
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Is anyone actually using e6k map in their e6x with no problems?
Old 04-01-05 | 07:38 AM
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Download the E6X manual.
You can "import" the E6K map into the E6X.
It is NOT perfect, but it beats trying to make a map from scratch or copying every parameter value by value.

Don't expect an E6K to import into your E6X and miraculously your car will run like a bat out of hell!
ALL CARS NEED TO BE TUNED FOR THEIR UNIQUE SET-UP!
Even between cars with identical set-up's and specs, the Haltechs SHOULD be retuned for each car.
I can't stress this enough.

Think of any map as a "base" map - it still needs to be tuned for YOUR car.


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Old 04-01-05 | 05:41 PM
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Just today i was installing an E6X on an FC S4 with S5 engine. I noticed some issues when importing, i think even though you tell it to bing all the parameters in, it doesnt. And it looks like the main configuration settings dont import, you have to set it manualy.
Old 04-02-05 | 04:19 AM
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Reason I´m asking this is I´ve been trying to buy an e6k but they are almost impossible to get but if I can import e6k map into the e6x it makes it a lot easier to me to get the freaking Haltech. There´s a lot of pretuned e6k maps but haven´t seen e6x maps yet.

And YES I know ALL CARS NEED TO BE TUNED FOR THEIR UNIQUE SET-UP.
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again...... the maps will convert.

what RETed said is a good idea to check the maps after it's converted.

I have done it but you have to spend a few minutes configuring it as they are different. Claudio RX7 mentioned this also.
Old 04-02-05 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Faster Is Faster
Reason I´m asking this is I´ve been trying to buy an e6k but they are almost impossible to get but if I can import e6k map into the e6x it makes it a lot easier to me to get the freaking Haltech. There´s a lot of pretuned e6k maps but haven´t seen e6x maps yet.
Man, you need to read all the E6X posts in here.
The problem is not with the maps on the E6X - it's the ECU itself.


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Also, it should be noted that Haltech has always built into their newer model ECUs the Map Import feature for this purpose.
Old 04-03-05 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by RETed
Man, you need to read all the E6X posts in here.
The problem is not with the maps on the E6X - it's the ECU itself.


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I know alot of people have problems with the E6X but it´s impossible to me to say is the problem in the ECU or the installation itself. And I originally asked about the map import to the E6X...not the ecu problem.

Just wondering are there anyone using e6x without problems? Is it more like a rule than exception that you´ll have problems with the X? Is it worth to buy?
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Originally Posted by Faster Is Faster
I know alot of people have problems with the E6X but it´s impossible to me to say is the problem in the ECU or the installation itself. And I originally asked about the map import to the E6X...not the ecu problem.

Just wondering are there anyone using e6x without problems? Is it more like a rule than exception that you´ll have problems with the X? Is it worth to buy?
The E6X we installed in nik's TII works flawlessly. We made sure to run the CAS harness separate from the rest, after reading all the issues...
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Originally Posted by Faster Is Faster
I saw this e6x on sale in ebay and the seller claim that you can use e6k map with the e6x. Is this true because I remember reading somewhere that they are not interchageable.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW

You cannot import the entire map, you can import the fuel and ignition values only. For example, if you import the map you will still need to go to the main ignition setup page and make sure all items are set correctly for your application or the car will never start.

Just an FYI.

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Old 04-04-05 | 02:33 AM
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I ran into a problem with a customer's E6X and importing K maps. Specifically the trailing split map for the high rpm band goes to 0 split for positive manifold pressure. Everything else came across perfectly except for that one part of a single parameter. Weird. So bottom line is go over your maps with a fine tooth comb to make sure you have what you think you have before pressing the envelope.

FWIW, his E6X has functioned flawlessly as far as driving performance. It was an early model with the fuel pump bug that was sent back to Haltech for warranty repair before it was put into service. It has the latest firmware. No CAS issues to speak of. There are several bugs in the software. For instance the trailing map isn't accessible until you reconfigure the ignition settings, cycle the power, reconfigure again, cycle the power. Same for some of the aux in features like using the UEGO on the aux in/out. Those things are PITAs but now that the car is tuned it's a moot point.
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Im just finishing up that install, hopefully tomorrow i double check everything and start the car. But so far only a few configuration/wiring glitches have occured. I will document this isntall as best i can so i can share the experience with everyone and confirm or deny what ever comes up.

So far the rpm bounce and ignition trigger noise arent apparent in my install, i attribute it to the fact that i only used the haltechs trigger wires and not the original FC harness. I dont know if that makes it any different, but at least that problem wasnt apparent here and im glad.

I hope to clear the E6X from its "public enemy #1" rep.
Old 04-04-05 | 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Claudio RX-7
Im just finishing up that install, hopefully tomorrow i double check everything and start the car. But so far only a few configuration/wiring glitches have occured. I will document this isntall as best i can so i can share the experience with everyone and confirm or deny what ever comes up.

So far the rpm bounce and ignition trigger noise arent apparent in my install, i attribute it to the fact that i only used the haltechs trigger wires and not the original FC harness. I dont know if that makes it any different, but at least that problem wasnt apparent here and im glad.

I hope to clear the E6X from its "public enemy #1" rep.
To the contrary I used as much of the stock CAS wire as I could. I exerienced great trigger signal with no bounce or false reading issues whatsoever. With the exception of the few software glitches this X install is very sound.
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Guitarjunkie mentioned to use as much of the stock CAS harness as well. I think I will go that route with my install. The Haltech wires don't seem that well shielded.
Old 04-04-05 | 02:42 PM
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I think moving the pick up in the CAS and turning down the gains will help too.

Obviously route ALT wire away from CAS as much as possible.

Now that we are aware of the problem I doubt we will see as many ignition "spike" problems.
Old 04-04-05 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by eViLRotor
Guitarjunkie mentioned to use as much of the stock CAS harness as well. I think I will go that route with my install. The Haltech wires don't seem that well shielded.

From the "looks" of things to me the stock CAS wiring is shielded much better than the X loom. The stock loom has the metal mesh braid where the X has a very thin piece of foil. The only other X I've installed was on a Miata. The ECU was mounted next to the factory ECU and the X trigger leads ran all of 6" to the factory harness at the stock ECU well clear of any noise so there was obviously no issues. I've installed a number of Ks and was surprised when I saw the X trigger loom and saw the lack of shielding even compared to the K.
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