Haltech Attention Haltech Shoppers!! - Help with Maps Here!
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Originally Posted by Claudio RX-7
Actually i only have stock S4/S5 maps, but its basically the same, mS times vary of course, since the stock S6 has better flow, and of course the ignition configuration is different, you use direct fire and not the toggle option, and finally, the timing and split maps, since everybody's school of experience is different, but the general rule of thumb is, where ever you make the best torque with the gas you have, on the engine you're tuning, will be your own ignition map.
I think starting off with a 2.5bar would be easier and faster than converting a 3bar then adjusting all the values.
Alot of adjustments would need to be made but still i think it's faster than starting from scratch-
freak'n 2.5bar sensor.........
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Originally Posted by burn4005
is that a 0-9000 RPM map?? or a 16000 RPM map??
Originally Posted by Sesshoumaru
Can I get a s5 with 2.5bar?
I think starting off with a 2.5bar would be easier and faster than converting a 3bar then adjusting all the values.
Alot of adjustments would need to be made but still i think it's faster than starting from scratch- freak'n 2.5bar sensor.........
I think starting off with a 2.5bar would be easier and faster than converting a 3bar then adjusting all the values.
Alot of adjustments would need to be made but still i think it's faster than starting from scratch- freak'n 2.5bar sensor.........
E6X - Stock S4/S5 (with toggle feature), Stock Injectors, Stock Motor, Stock turbo, internal 2.5bar map sensor.
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Originally Posted by racerjason
Where is the N/A love? Any help is appreciated.
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Originally Posted by Claudio RX-7
If you load it in v1.62 you will see its a 15500 rpm map. Im sure you can change it back to 9000 but prolly need a lot of fine tuning.
Try this one, but i think it might be a little lean, so watch the wideband closely
E6X - Stock S4/S5 (with toggle feature), Stock Injectors, Stock Motor, Stock turbo, internal 2.5bar map sensor.
Try this one, but i think it might be a little lean, so watch the wideband closely
E6X - Stock S4/S5 (with toggle feature), Stock Injectors, Stock Motor, Stock turbo, internal 2.5bar map sensor.
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Originally Posted by racerjason
S5 NA Half Bridge 6-port, Staged 550's x 4, & RB Road Race header, Cold air intake, E6X Please & Thanks!
Now, is the engine using the stock CAS for triggering, or old ignition? I also need to know this so i configure the settings right. Also, you want to run this stagging or multipoint?
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Originally Posted by ronbros3
I talked to a person in Orlando Fl. says he runs 50* of ignition timing on a N/A engine , by the way he wins most all the time. HOW is that possible. thanks RON
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Hey guys, i need a little help with this one, and feedback posted here on it afterwards. Here is a base map for 2nd gen engines running E8, ive updated the fuel and ignition maps, and this one is for the 550/1600 combo, so i recommend running low boost and using at least 93 octane or better. Also, ive messed with the trailing split so i need extra care with that, can you guys tell me what you think about what ive done, its prolly crude, but lets see if we can make it good. Also, im guessing better driveability can result from throttle pump tweaking, so any feedback on this will be appreciated. I roughly set the split to 15 degrees, and have it drop off constantly from 4500 RPMs and up.
E8 - 13BT S4/S5 engine, toggle feature enabled, 550/1600cc injectors.
I dont expect the map to be dead on, specially for ported motors, but i hope its in the ball park.
E8 - 13BT S4/S5 engine, toggle feature enabled, 550/1600cc injectors.
I dont expect the map to be dead on, specially for ported motors, but i hope its in the ball park.
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Originally Posted by Bigretardhead
sweet. I'll give that one a try tomorrow and let you know how it works.
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I don't have a wideband or EGT... just a a/f gauge. (I'm taking it to the dyno once I get it driveable).
anyway, it started up good, but super rich. everything is really rich still for me. I leaned it out a bit in the lower load range, but still need to do so in the higher load area (above like 0psi). flooding itself out when I held the throttle far enough to rev it up even to even 3500rpm. but I didn't adjust that area at all, so I'll try that a little more tomorrow. but the idle and very light load range seems to be pretty good right now.
of course, I am at almost 6k feet... so that makes sense I guess that its so rich. right? lol. everything else seems to be doing okay.
anyway, it started up good, but super rich. everything is really rich still for me. I leaned it out a bit in the lower load range, but still need to do so in the higher load area (above like 0psi). flooding itself out when I held the throttle far enough to rev it up even to even 3500rpm. but I didn't adjust that area at all, so I'll try that a little more tomorrow. but the idle and very light load range seems to be pretty good right now.
of course, I am at almost 6k feet... so that makes sense I guess that its so rich. right? lol. everything else seems to be doing okay.
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Ah! Definately! you should've mentioned that. It will be running super rich because of it. Oh, and i highly recommend you get the EGT and the WideBand, like the Haltech controller.
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yeah, I totally forgot about the whole altitude thing. lol. I plan to get some sort of wideband... I think my friend has one I might be able to use for now... but I don't quite have the money now, so the plan right now is just to get it to the dyno, and let them do the rest!
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anyone have a map matching this setup?
13B-RE Streetport
Matchported intake
Pulsesplit manifold
3" exhaust
550cc / 1680cc injectors
Holset Hx 50
FMIC
ECU Haltech E6M
95-98 Octane Fuel
13B-RE Streetport
Matchported intake
Pulsesplit manifold
3" exhaust
550cc / 1680cc injectors
Holset Hx 50
FMIC
ECU Haltech E6M
95-98 Octane Fuel
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Originally Posted by damez
anyone have a map matching this setup?
13B-RE Streetport
Matchported intake
Pulsesplit manifold
3" exhaust
550cc / 1680cc injectors
Holset Hx 50
FMIC
ECU Haltech E6M
95-98 Octane Fuel
13B-RE Streetport
Matchported intake
Pulsesplit manifold
3" exhaust
550cc / 1680cc injectors
Holset Hx 50
FMIC
ECU Haltech E6M
95-98 Octane Fuel
If the answers to these questions is YES, then, by all means feel free to try it.
E6M - 550/1600 injectors, some mods.
DONT FORGET TO ZERO YOUR TIMING. This map was setup using the Factory way of inserting the CAS, so offset is set at 11. Also, here is a tip, the E6M can import E6S maps, so if you have a friend with the same setup and an E6S you can, shall we say, borrow his map. Good luck and keep me posted on if it worked for you.
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Need a map for this setup... Engine is installed in a SA
SP S4 TII eng
FD UIM
FMIC
E6K
Divided manifold
GT35R T04 1.0A/R
720/1600
3" exhaust
FC coils
FC Cas
LM1 Wideband and EGT gauge will be installed
ECU Haltech E6K
91 octane for breakin- 100 octane after
SP S4 TII eng
FD UIM
FMIC
E6K
Divided manifold
GT35R T04 1.0A/R
720/1600
3" exhaust
FC coils
FC Cas
LM1 Wideband and EGT gauge will be installed
ECU Haltech E6K
91 octane for breakin- 100 octane after
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Its becoming apparent that people might be starting to abuse this post a little bit and not want to do a little homework to try and tune their cars.
I suggest to who ever needs a map for their car to start with one of the maps already found here, if the map isnt for their precise injector size (the main deciding factor in mS value) get the one with the nearest size, and just either raise or lower fuel as needed. Usually, if you have a 550/1600 map, and you have 720/1600, all you need to do is lower all the bars before the stagging point a little bit at a time to get it right, since you will be richer with that map.
In the case of odd ECUs, like that E6M request previously answered, i would try to help you out since its a very uncommon system. But again, guys, im not trying to be stingy, i was once at the same spot you are, not knowing what to do, so i can appreciate your positions, but with a little help, guidance and practice, i got to where i am today.
"One is delighted to be of service"
I suggest to who ever needs a map for their car to start with one of the maps already found here, if the map isnt for their precise injector size (the main deciding factor in mS value) get the one with the nearest size, and just either raise or lower fuel as needed. Usually, if you have a 550/1600 map, and you have 720/1600, all you need to do is lower all the bars before the stagging point a little bit at a time to get it right, since you will be richer with that map.
In the case of odd ECUs, like that E6M request previously answered, i would try to help you out since its a very uncommon system. But again, guys, im not trying to be stingy, i was once at the same spot you are, not knowing what to do, so i can appreciate your positions, but with a little help, guidance and practice, i got to where i am today.
"One is delighted to be of service"
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Originally Posted by Claudio [url="#"
RX-7[/url]]Its becoming apparent that people might be starting to abuse this post a little bit and not want to do a little homework to try and tune their cars.
I suggest to who ever needs a map for their car to start with one of the maps already found here, if the map isnt for their precise injector size (the main deciding factor in mS value) get the one with the nearest size, and just either raise or lower fuel as needed. Usually, if you have a 550/1600 map, and you have 720/1600, all you need to do is lower all the bars before the stagging point a little bit at a time to get it right, since you will be richer with that map.
In the case of odd ECUs, like that E6M request previously answered, i would try to help you out since its a very uncommon system. But again, guys, im not trying to be stingy, i was once at the same spot you are, not knowing what to do, so i can appreciate your positions, but with a little help, guidance and practice, i got to where i am today.
"One is delighted to be of service"
I suggest to who ever needs a map for their car to start with one of the maps already found here, if the map isnt for their precise injector size (the main deciding factor in mS value) get the one with the nearest size, and just either raise or lower fuel as needed. Usually, if you have a 550/1600 map, and you have 720/1600, all you need to do is lower all the bars before the stagging point a little bit at a time to get it right, since you will be richer with that map.
In the case of odd ECUs, like that E6M request previously answered, i would try to help you out since its a very uncommon system. But again, guys, im not trying to be stingy, i was once at the same spot you are, not knowing what to do, so i can appreciate your positions, but with a little help, guidance and practice, i got to where i am today.
"One is delighted to be of service"
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Originally Posted by gonzz
That's cool.. I'll get one from my tuner... I was just seeing you give maps and thought you might have something close to mine..
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Originally Posted by Claudio [url="#"
RX-7[/url]]If you look through this entire post, you will find plenty of maps for all to use, i just havent gotten arround to your particular request, thats why i suggested to try another similar map and retune for your setup.
Hopefully in a few years I can be pretty good at it..
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Originally Posted by gonzz
Thanks.. I'm new to the Haltech thing and wanted to look at a few.. trying to learn..
Hopefully in a few years I can be pretty good at it..
Hopefully in a few years I can be pretty good at it..
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