AEM coil upgrade package preview/interest
#226
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so is anyone doing 30min - 1hr track sessions with these coils? let's hear some feedback!
street or dynos don't really stress the coils but high rpm for prolonged periods is another story.
I got a set since everybody praises them (hype train) but I did some more reading and found out we're getting the leading coils to about 90% duty cycle (60% in direct fire) at 8000 rpm and the trailings to 60% at the most recommended settings.
I worry about burning leading coils during a track session in high rpm boost and maybe losing the engine! Comments?
street or dynos don't really stress the coils but high rpm for prolonged periods is another story.
I got a set since everybody praises them (hype train) but I did some more reading and found out we're getting the leading coils to about 90% duty cycle (60% in direct fire) at 8000 rpm and the trailings to 60% at the most recommended settings.
I worry about burning leading coils during a track session in high rpm boost and maybe losing the engine! Comments?
-Heath
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#229
I have been reading threads regarding the dwell settings with the PowerFC.
You noted earlier that
"Stock configuration - Dwell increases with RPM"
"AEM Recommendation - Dwell Decreases with RPM"
I think there is a difference in units between the two. The stock configuration from what i've read relates to degrees of crankshaft rotation, so a dwell duration in one rpm box would have a different setting than the same dwell duration at a different RPM. I think AEM intends for your dwell duration to decrease with RPM, but in the powerFC that may still show higher numbers as the RPMs increase.
I too have noticed this horrible breakup on the sakebomb recommended settings in wastespark. I'm trying to get clarification from many different avenues, but I think the key will be to reverse their settings, which will more closely mimick the stock dwell curve.
Its probably only an issue for the PowerFC users in wastespark as the PowerFC uses different logic than other ECU's, which you are able to just enter a target dwell duration rather than calculating it based off of something else like crankshaft rotation at RPM.
You noted earlier that
"Stock configuration - Dwell increases with RPM"
"AEM Recommendation - Dwell Decreases with RPM"
I think there is a difference in units between the two. The stock configuration from what i've read relates to degrees of crankshaft rotation, so a dwell duration in one rpm box would have a different setting than the same dwell duration at a different RPM. I think AEM intends for your dwell duration to decrease with RPM, but in the powerFC that may still show higher numbers as the RPMs increase.
I too have noticed this horrible breakup on the sakebomb recommended settings in wastespark. I'm trying to get clarification from many different avenues, but I think the key will be to reverse their settings, which will more closely mimick the stock dwell curve.
Its probably only an issue for the PowerFC users in wastespark as the PowerFC uses different logic than other ECU's, which you are able to just enter a target dwell duration rather than calculating it based off of something else like crankshaft rotation at RPM.
#230
My post was in reference to:
#231
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I have been reading threads regarding the dwell settings with the PowerFC.
You noted earlier that
"Stock configuration - Dwell increases with RPM"
"AEM Recommendation - Dwell Decreases with RPM"
I think there is a difference in units between the two. The stock configuration from what i've read relates to degrees of crankshaft rotation, so a dwell duration in one rpm box would have a different setting than the same dwell duration at a different RPM. I think AEM intends for your dwell duration to decrease with RPM, but in the powerFC that may still show higher numbers as the RPMs increase.
I too have noticed this horrible breakup on the sakebomb recommended settings in wastespark. I'm trying to get clarification from many different avenues, but I think the key will be to reverse their settings, which will more closely mimick the stock dwell curve.
Its probably only an issue for the PowerFC users in wastespark as the PowerFC uses different logic than other ECU's, which you are able to just enter a target dwell duration rather than calculating it based off of something else like crankshaft rotation at RPM.
You noted earlier that
"Stock configuration - Dwell increases with RPM"
"AEM Recommendation - Dwell Decreases with RPM"
I think there is a difference in units between the two. The stock configuration from what i've read relates to degrees of crankshaft rotation, so a dwell duration in one rpm box would have a different setting than the same dwell duration at a different RPM. I think AEM intends for your dwell duration to decrease with RPM, but in the powerFC that may still show higher numbers as the RPMs increase.
I too have noticed this horrible breakup on the sakebomb recommended settings in wastespark. I'm trying to get clarification from many different avenues, but I think the key will be to reverse their settings, which will more closely mimick the stock dwell curve.
Its probably only an issue for the PowerFC users in wastespark as the PowerFC uses different logic than other ECU's, which you are able to just enter a target dwell duration rather than calculating it based off of something else like crankshaft rotation at RPM.
We realized the dwell settings issue early on and updated the screenshot in the instructions to show the correct dwell settings, however it seems a few of the old instruction booklets survived. SBG recently moved from our old shop to a new location and unfortunately it looks like a handful of old instruction booklets got thrown into a box which contained all of the newest instruction manuals. We are contacting everyone who purchased a coil kit in the past two months and sending them the newest version of instructions just to make sure everyone has the most recent version.
We apologize for the mistake and encourage anyone who has purchased our coil kit to contact us with any questions you may have regarding installation or settings.
Socks, you will be hearing from us shortly via e-mail.
Thank you everyone.
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#233
FYI they do fit and rather nicely might I add. Granted the rats nest is gone so I have plenty of breathing room, but even if it were still there, they can definitely fit well and not get too hot. This allows me to keep my AC/PS/CC all in tact and still run these coils with great results.
#234
FYI they do fit and rather nicely might I add. Granted the rats nest is gone so I have plenty of breathing room, but even if it were still there, they can definitely fit well and not get too hot. This allows me to keep my AC/PS/CC all in tact and still run these coils with great results.
#236
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cut the purple wire!!
(and butt crimp the blue wire to the diagnostics box for the 4th signal )
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#239
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We also make custom spark plug wires to fit Custom Length Spark Plug Wires for IGN-1A Smart Coils or Custom Applications - SakeBomb Garage LLC, and the wiring harness will fit a wide range of coil locations without modification. FD3S: IGN-1A Smart Coil Plug & Play Mil-Spec Harness Adapter - SakeBomb Garage LLC
We can put together a custom kit for you for the same cost as the LHD setup... just shoot us an email info@sakebombgarage.com
Thanks,
Heath
P.S. A battery relocation isn't an issue, the harness is designed to attach either to the battery +/- or to the large gauge starter lead +, and a clean ground to the chassis for -
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#240
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Product page is up for the universal "kit"
FD3S: Complete Package - IGN-1A Ignition Upgrade Kit + UNIVERSAL Mount - SakeBomb Garage LLC
Anyone interested in the non-cruise location please take a look. We have two harnesses left in stock, once these are gone there will be a 3-4 week wait time as we build more.
Thanks,
Heath
(any immediate questions shoot us an email... info@sakebombgarage.com as we're in the middle of a renovation here at the shop and will catch and email before a thread post).
FD3S: Complete Package - IGN-1A Ignition Upgrade Kit + UNIVERSAL Mount - SakeBomb Garage LLC
Anyone interested in the non-cruise location please take a look. We have two harnesses left in stock, once these are gone there will be a 3-4 week wait time as we build more.
Thanks,
Heath
(any immediate questions shoot us an email... info@sakebombgarage.com as we're in the middle of a renovation here at the shop and will catch and email before a thread post).
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#241
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We're down to a couple harnesses left... fist come first serve. We'll have a bit of a wait time for building more harnesses for the kits as we're working on a few other projects at the moment. Thanks everyone!
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#243
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#245
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Let me know if I can help with anything else
-Heath
FD3S: Complete Package - IGN-1A Ignition Upgrade Kit + LHD Mount - SakeBomb Garage LLC
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#246
We sold out of harnesses last week once again but are building more currently. I'd estimate about a week before they are ready to ship but it it first come first serve and we've got a few backed up orders currently so I would suggest placing your order ASAP if you're trying to get these sooner than later.
Let me know if I can help with anything else
-Heath
FD3S: Complete Package - IGN-1A Ignition Upgrade Kit + LHD Mount - SakeBomb Garage LLC
Let me know if I can help with anything else
-Heath
FD3S: Complete Package - IGN-1A Ignition Upgrade Kit + LHD Mount - SakeBomb Garage LLC
#247
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We're back in stock on full kits! If anyone is interested in doing another GB on these we can get another group going in the next month or two if there's enough interest.
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#248
Socks, your assumption about the dwell settings in the instructions you received is correct. Unfortunately in the earliest version of our "AEM Coil Harness Guide" installation instructions, we used a screenshot from a PowerFC Datalogit that was displaying incorrect dwell settings and I think you may have received a copy of this by mistake.
We realized the dwell settings issue early on and updated the screenshot in the instructions to show the correct dwell settings, however it seems a few of the old instruction booklets survived. SBG recently moved from our old shop to a new location and unfortunately it looks like a handful of old instruction booklets got thrown into a box which contained all of the newest instruction manuals. We are contacting everyone who purchased a coil kit in the past two months and sending them the newest version of instructions just to make sure everyone has the most recent version.
We apologize for the mistake and encourage anyone who has purchased our coil kit to contact us with any questions you may have regarding installation or settings.
Socks, you will be hearing from us shortly via e-mail.
Thank you everyone.
We realized the dwell settings issue early on and updated the screenshot in the instructions to show the correct dwell settings, however it seems a few of the old instruction booklets survived. SBG recently moved from our old shop to a new location and unfortunately it looks like a handful of old instruction booklets got thrown into a box which contained all of the newest instruction manuals. We are contacting everyone who purchased a coil kit in the past two months and sending them the newest version of instructions just to make sure everyone has the most recent version.
We apologize for the mistake and encourage anyone who has purchased our coil kit to contact us with any questions you may have regarding installation or settings.
Socks, you will be hearing from us shortly via e-mail.
Thank you everyone.
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