Never actually completed a deal with either of these guys, due to (what I consider as) shady selling practices. Not saying either of these are bad guys, but you may wish to use extra caution when making a deal with either.

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GregW:

Had a set of housings posted up that I inquired about and made an offer to buy, and he accepted via PM. We then got to talking about other parts he was offering me, and what sorts of bulk purchase prices we could work out. In the meantime I made it a point to say, "please dont sell them out from under me in the meantime. If you want the money now then let me know and you will have it".

To which he replied "Dont worry, Your fist in line on them and Im not gonna sell them untill you say yay or nay".

Another day passes and we decide which parts I will buy and for how much. I had to straighten out the funding of my paypal account as I had some pending transactions that I had to ship before sending him the money. I told him about this via PM and he did not reply saying it would be a problem, or that he wanted the money immediately. If he had said so, I could have gotten it to him immediately.

Just before I am about to send payment, he PM's me and says that someone local came and offered him more money so he sold the housings out from under me.

I have all PM's to back this up, but I won't post them unless asked or it becomes necessary.

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eriksseven:

He was parting out a car and posted a BIG list of parts with his own prices preset. I PM him and tell him which parts I want to buy and ask for his paypal. He pm's me back and agrees that the parts are mine for the agreed price and would not be sold to anyone else, but asks that I wait to send payment until he can pull the parts off the car and has them ready to ship. HE is the one that made this request to wait, not me.

Then a few hours later he PM's me back saying that in the meantime other people have been wanting the same parts that we made the deal on. HE tells me that if I still want to buy them I will have to "bid" for them at higher prices against these other potential buyers, regardless of the fact that we had an agreement for these parts at preset prices.

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...8&page=2&pp=40

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I understand about more money and all, since that is the goal of selling parts to begin with. And if the things that were said above had not been said, I'd have absolutely no problem with the sellers doing this. But since they came out and said what they did above, the fact that they turned around and did something else makes them, well, liars. That is what the dictionary says about a person that says one thing and does another, isn't it?

There's been many a time I've made an agreement with someone and then a day or 2 later had someone make me a better offer if I'd break that agreement, but I had to tell them no even though I could have made more money, because that's just the way good business is conducted, and perhaps why I have so many return buyers on parts and engines.

 

I know it's a slightly different subject, but I've dealt with eriksseven before on more than one occasion (buying and selling), and haven't had any problems. Of course, transactions were actually completed though.

 

Yeah, I know people's opinion will differ a lot on this subject and I expect to take some slack for posting it at all. BUt hell, with all the bullshit *** stuff that some people try and post about me, when it isn't even a legitimate problem, I think I'm entitled to some leeway in posting

The deal with eriksseven happened over a month ago, and I was just going to let it go even though it pissed me off to no end. But then yesterday when gregw pulled the same stunt, it made me angry all over again and I just couldn't let it go.

My main point is that in both instances it wasn't like I was leading the seller on, making THEM wait, asking them questions and requiring them to take pics before I'd send payment. IF that were the case, I couldn't blame them a bit for saying "hey, screw that guy, I'll sell it to someone else who is less trouble". They were making ME wait, and in the meantime THEY changed their minds to sell to someone else.

 

I'm sorry to hear about your experience - I haven't had that particular problem with anyone before but it really annoys me when people post something for a price and then tell you you have to bid higher than someone else to buy it. This isn't ebay - if you post something for some price, you should sell it at that price.

 

I had some jerk-off named gen3RxProj pull the same thing on me with a wideband. I was even local and it was a cash in hand deal. If sombody makes a deal they should man up to it.

 

Yep wasn't saying you were wrong in any way. Just stating my experience based on finalized transactions with him.

 

Get over yourself. Your SLOW, it takes you a full day to respond to ANYTHING.

I cant call you on the phone and you jerked me arround on payment.

Grow the hell up.

 

Happends all the time. No big deal. I see where your coming from though

 

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...53#post6716153

 

I personally think that is shady business. I have things that I put on sale and whent he time comes I get guys who say they want them but wont be able to pay for "X" amount of days etc.. if the sale price gets removed and goes back to the regular price I normally tell them I will give them "X" amount of days or they have to pay by a certian day or the deal is off the table..

I personally hate it when somone sells **** from under u .

if u have a problem with somone taking their time tell them u need payment ASAP.

I will be the first to say that I sell things on here VERY CHEEP next to no pofit and on used items for little to no money but if somone wants something and give me a "date/time" they will pay it by it is on hold for them untill the said time...

if somone says hey give me a few days I need to get my money in order I would say ok I will hold it untill ..... a day

if u dont say anything then this can lead to lenghty deals but it is still not right to sell something out from under someone or to then change your mind on a deal that is MADE and tell them they need to pay more if they want it

 

Oh yeah.......You done did it now....can't wait to hear RR response.

 

lol....I'm getting this feeling we're about to see some PM's from RR...He was replying to the shady GregW and it bears repeating....GregW, YOU GOT GREEDY and broke a deal...you are the jerk here. I've been on the side bashing RR and also on the side "hoo-raying" RR. In both situations, he's weathered it well and PM'd me directly on the bad times wondering wuzzup with my intervention. The facts as stated on both threads clearly show YOU GOT GREEDY.

If a Man ain't good fer his Word, he ain't good fer nothin'...

If it wasn't for the Oct 2001 join date and the MN addy, I'd thought GregS had snuck back in...

 

Slow? I responded within 24 hours to each pm. Usually more like 6.

No, unlike some people, I cannot spend every waking minute on the computer. I am expected to actually accomplish work at some point in time.

You called me AT 9 ******* OCLOCK ON A SUNDAY NIGHT and you wonder why I did not take the call. HOW RUDE. Nobody wants to do business on a personal or business level on a sunday night.

PM's for those who care to look (some irrelevant and personal info left off):

me: I'll take them right now if you'd do $300 shipped. Pm me your paypal info and I'll get the payment to you immediately.

him: Ok, Ive got my paypal stuff all setup,

Just wanted to verify that your looking at the RE housings right?

me:Yeah, the cosmo housings. What kind of kickass deal will you make me on the s4's you have for sale if I buy all at once?

him:$190 shiped on the S4 housings. If you buy the RE housings for $300

him: <asks for my phone number so he can call me>

me: Alright I'll take 'em all. IF you want to call me tonight the number is 423-748-7977, I'll be available until around midnight EST. I'm usually not available to talk during the day. What do we need to discuss again?

If you want me to wait until we talk to pay, that is fine, but please dont sell them out from under me in the meantime. If you want the money now then let me know and you will have it.

him: Dont worry, Your fist in line on them and Im not gonna sell them untill you say yay or nay

him:
I have everything packaged up. Just nee $490 in the paypal and a shiping address and I can send them out tommrow..... Planning on UPS with tracking.

me:I'll have to send the paypal tomorrow night. I have most of the funds in my account, and the rest in the attatched credit card. However, if I pay you now, it will use up all of my funds in the account before billing any of it to the CC. This is a problem because I have 2 or 3 items to ship via paypal/ups shipping, which requires a balance in the account. So I have to create my labels before I send your money, and I have to pack and weigh the stuff before I can make the labels.

him:I just sold the RE housings for $400 to a local guy. I told him they were sold but waiting on payment but he wanted them bad enough to give me 400. He also bought all my rotors and RE end plates.

Sorry, just could not resist since I dont hafta pay shipping/paypal.

Let me know if you still want the S4 housings.

me: Hmmm, well, I dont really know what to say. I saw this last night right when you sent it, as I was on the computer preparing my shipping stuff and getting ready to send paypal in about 30 more minutes. I guess it kinda annoyed me so I didn't respond at the time, not wanting to say something I shouldn't while in a bad mood, not having thought about what I was going to say.

This is exactly the scenario that I thought of when I said to you earlier "please dont sell them out from under me in the meantime. If you want the money now then let me know and you will have it" to which you replied "Dont worry, Your fist in line on them and Im not gonna sell them untill you say yay or nay".

To me, that sounds like a man's word, a promise, and probably even a written contract, though I'm no legal expert.

I understand about more money and not having to ship. And if the things that were said above had not been said, I'd have absolutely no problem with you doing this. But since you came out and said what you did above, the fact that you turned around and did something else makes you, well, a liar. Before you start saying that I'm calling you names, that is what the dictionary says about a person that says one thing and does another, isn't it?

Feel free to correct me if something is wrong with my observations.

No, I dont want the housings or any of the other parts. I choose not to do business with those of lower ethical standards whenever I know about it.

him: A reply post calling me names and telling me how slow and stupid I am.

 

his last reply:

Ok, Im sorry you feel that way.

I assumed your slow responses and excuse on the credit card/paypal thing was getting close enough to a nay. Extra money and the prospect of missing out on ANY sale moved my view to a nay.

Dont start spouting that sothern man of his word bullshit. If you want something, act like it. I gave you my paypal hours after our initial contact. I assumed you would pay me shortly there after and I even wanted to talk to you on the phone to seal the deal but aparently your to bussy to even pick up a phone.

Its not about extra money, its not about having to ship, its about me missing out on selling these things to anyone let alone you. I honestly did not think you were gonna come through on payin me. Especially after your last excuse. If you want to call me a liar I feel I should be able to call you a slow *** southerner and we can call it even.

Wow, your cool, holy **** ive got repeat people as well. I stick to my word too, but I expect others to move their *** becuse the world does not revolve around them. I wanted to call you and find out what is taking so long but as you stated your too cool to answer any kind of phone during the day.

It dosent sound shady its sounds like the way the free market works.

A deal is complete when you have purchased the goods. Purchace price can be agreed uppon but can change over time the more time the more chance of it changing, especially with slow *** buyers that string things along like the world revolvs arround them. Thats why you move your *** and pay people right away, and if they ask to talk to you on the phone to make sure your for real you do it!

Your welcome to feel however you want. My obsservation is that your not very on top of things.

If your implying that I have low ethacal standars then I have no problem saying **** you.

Honestly, I thought you were jerkin my chain on this deal. Thats why I moved to the next person that was obviously more motivated.

You taught me one thing here. From now on Im telling folks they have 24 hrs to complete payment and after that Im moving on the the next person and negotiation starts over.

Dont bother responding to this as Im gonna delete anything comming from you without reading it.

I choose not to do business with people that confuse their slow actions with others having poor ethics.

Hint hint,... this is how people politely say move your *** or your gonna loose out.... You told me you had money then suddenly your broke. What the hell am I supposed to think.

 

To set a few things straight regarding his replies:

1) I never went more than a few business hours between replies to his PM's. The pm's started friday at 4pm and he sold the housings Monday afternoon. I don't conduct business saturday night or sunday. How is this slow or not communicating?

2) he never gave me his phone number to call. The only message I have from where he called me was 9pm on a sunday night.

3) I never told him I didnt have the money. I told him I needed to create a couple of shipping labels from my account balance before sending the remainder to him, because of the way paypal shipping vs account balance works in paypal. He never said there was a problem with this.

 

Kevin,

Stop wasting your time with these kids.... It's not worth it.
This is one of the main reasons why I stopped selling parts here, and if I do, some discretion is used regarding the buyer.

 

Sorry u got poked Kevin.. I still look forward to doing business with u in the future you have NEVER done anything but followed through with our transactions 100% and I am VERY greatfull for that sir..

have a great day!

 

This is why I list about 99.9% of the parts I have on E-bay or my online store as it is too hard to sell here on the forums to some people...


AnyWay Kevin is a 100% stand up guy and he will all ways come throu...

Dan

 

since a mod decided to lock the other thread, I'll put this one back on top.

 

Greg wins "dumbass of the month" for that link! Any other links to stupid **** you've done?