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Old 09-05-07 | 02:23 PM
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Hydrogen? Alcohol?

Well from my research it looks like yes i can do it but it would require more money that expected and time but what about if i used Alcohol?? i know a guy who has windshield washer fluid injection on his RX7 witch is 70% or so alcohol what if running it straight off of moonshine? .


https://www.rx7club.com/general-rotary-tech-support-11/hydrogen-rotary-685565/ that is the link to the preverus thread that i started about a Hydrogen rotary.



crazy idea what about putting a turbine jet on the back and rebuilding the hatch with some crazy mounts and making it a drag car
Old 09-05-07 | 04:52 PM
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Good luck on the jet engine RX7. That sounds like it'd be a fun DD!
Old 09-05-07 | 08:19 PM
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The fuel system is sensitive to alcohol, so you'll have to replace a bit. It'll also corrode the engine; I dunno how you'll get around that. You'll also need to learn what to mix with the alcohol to make it a decent fuel (there are a million additives with different purposes). But besides that and tuning issues, I'll bet it could be done.

Oh, and you can run absolutely insane levels of boost on alcohol, without an intercooler. Alcohol will cool the intake and it's very high octane. So consider a turbo if you don't mind the extra effort & risk.

If you're doing this for environmental reasons, keep in mind that both hydrogen and alcohol consume far more petroleum than just burning petroleum directly. And guess what they do with that extra CO2 when they convert peteroleum into alcohol/hydrogen? Yeup, dumped right into the air. So unless you want to buy a million dollars worth of solar panels (hydrogen) or several acres of farmland & equipment (alcohol), you're really just hurting the environment. And even if 100% of the corn in the U.S. went to alcohol, it would hardly supply 1% of the country's fuel requirements.

The alcohol injection kits inject alcohol only when needed. Those cars run mainly off gasoline. They still face engine corossion issues, though.
Old 09-05-07 | 09:17 PM
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Do you know of a way to make it not corrode? and no not for environmental reasons just for fun and high gas
Old 09-05-07 | 09:45 PM
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go look in the AI forum, people have been running meth injection for quite a while with few to no issues

Also when you say alcohol are you talking running on meth or ethanol. There are qute a few 500+hp pump gas +meth cars. Setting your fuel system to run on ethanol is a bit more difficult than the pump gas+meth because you need to make sure everything is alcohol compatible.
Old 09-05-07 | 10:05 PM
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To answer your question on "how not to make alcohol non corrosive", the answer would be not to run it, or little as possible. Alcohol will pit and scar aluminum like no other, but as it will to steel also. Of course over time... If you plan on just having the motor as a ( Idontgiveafuck) trial and error type of thing, gor for it. But, if you plan on getting a couple 10 thousand miles on it. Good luck.
Old 09-06-07 | 10:59 PM
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well thanks for the input. in ur guyss opinion will it be better to rebiuld to stock or look for a TII? im kinda in a jam cause i need a car by next week and for the winter if you guys know where i can get a good car for under 10K in the chicago land area that would help me out soo much i am planning to rebiuld during the winter
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