How Much is This FD worth?
04-24-07 | 02:15 PM
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How Much is This FD worth?
I'm interested in buying an FD. Why? I'm looking for something semi-light weight, RWD, and good handling. Plus a little power isn't a bad thing either 
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He want's $8500 or a trade plus cash. I am offering him my 97 GSX.
Pics on the next post.
Here is the post he made on our local car forum:
The paint isn't in that good of shape, but it sound mechanically sound, except for the pollution pump? What exactly is the pollution pump? I've been researching FD's for the last few weeks and I can't find any thing about the pump and why it would be removed. Any help is appreciated.
.He want's $8500 or a trade plus cash. I am offering him my 97 GSX.
Pics on the next post.
Here is the post he made on our local car forum:
i'm selling my 94 montego blue touring...the car was originally an automatic but i converted it to 5-speed. the conversion included diff and instrument cluster. The car dynoed at 280rwhp before the polution pump removal at 10psi.
The Good
-clear title
-never been wrecked
-mechanically the car is 95% perfect - could use a retune to run 100%
-Previous owner was a mechanic who was in his mid 40s and took great care of the car
-new mazda reman ~6k miles
-rebuilt 5-speed trans
-~20k rebuilt stock turbos
-apexi performance power fc with console mounted display (full standalone unit)
-h&r springs on r1 shocks
-245/45 toyo t1s on stock wheels
-full 3" exhaust w/hiflo cat & rb 2tip
-k&n drop in
-custom 944 smic
-koyo radiator w/ast illiminated
-battery relocated and minimized
-brakes good all around
-pettit pillar mount boost guage
The Bad
-damaged wing and broken trim piece between tailights. (can find pieces to fix for 50-100)
-in great need of a paint job
-some small dents in size door but nothing major
-ever since i removed the pollution pump, it will stall occasionally but with a retune that problem would be eliminated. (retune costs $300 in Columbus)
-the driver seat has some wear as you can see in the pic below.
These cars are some of the most coveted on the road and they are getting more and more rare every year. I bought this car about a year ago and have only driven it about 1k miles. (none of which were at the track) Why you ask? Well becasue i have 4 cars. With a paint job and retune this car will be one of the most fun and best looking cars you will ever drive. I can honestly say that this car is my favorite of all ive ever owned and ive owned quite a few.
I will be happy to let anyone intersted look at the car but you will have to work with me as my schedule is a little hectic right now. No joyrides and no lowballers please.
Asking - 8500
The Good
-clear title
-never been wrecked
-mechanically the car is 95% perfect - could use a retune to run 100%
-Previous owner was a mechanic who was in his mid 40s and took great care of the car
-new mazda reman ~6k miles
-rebuilt 5-speed trans
-~20k rebuilt stock turbos
-apexi performance power fc with console mounted display (full standalone unit)
-h&r springs on r1 shocks
-245/45 toyo t1s on stock wheels
-full 3" exhaust w/hiflo cat & rb 2tip
-k&n drop in
-custom 944 smic
-koyo radiator w/ast illiminated
-battery relocated and minimized
-brakes good all around
-pettit pillar mount boost guage
The Bad
-damaged wing and broken trim piece between tailights. (can find pieces to fix for 50-100)
-in great need of a paint job
-some small dents in size door but nothing major
-ever since i removed the pollution pump, it will stall occasionally but with a retune that problem would be eliminated. (retune costs $300 in Columbus)
-the driver seat has some wear as you can see in the pic below.
These cars are some of the most coveted on the road and they are getting more and more rare every year. I bought this car about a year ago and have only driven it about 1k miles. (none of which were at the track) Why you ask? Well becasue i have 4 cars. With a paint job and retune this car will be one of the most fun and best looking cars you will ever drive. I can honestly say that this car is my favorite of all ive ever owned and ive owned quite a few.
I will be happy to let anyone intersted look at the car but you will have to work with me as my schedule is a little hectic right now. No joyrides and no lowballers please.
Asking - 8500
04-24-07 | 02:21 PM
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I'm not too worried about the seats, I plan to swap in black cloth or leather seats in eventually. Same goes for any thing that is tan.
I have no idea about the paint - I know it needs to be painted but I have no idea how much it would cost. I plan on getting the entire car painted, not individual parts/panels. Any idea on the total dollar figure?
Pics...
I have no idea about the paint - I know it needs to be painted but I have no idea how much it would cost. I plan on getting the entire car painted, not individual parts/panels. Any idea on the total dollar figure?
Pics...
04-24-07 | 02:26 PM
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If that's "really" all that is wrong with it, IMO, that would be a heck of a deal. I would recommend getting compression test results, and then start checking the suspension components for excess play.
04-24-07 | 03:33 PM
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seems like a hell of a deal to me.
also, damn... it looks like somebody took a katana sword to the spoiler/tail light
any FD with a clear title and a newish engine/turbos is worth 8500 easy, as long as it doesnt need any big body work or have any big issues
also, damn... it looks like somebody took a katana sword to the spoiler/tail light
any FD with a clear title and a newish engine/turbos is worth 8500 easy, as long as it doesnt need any big body work or have any big issues
04-24-07 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Mahjik
If that's "really" all that is wrong with it, IMO, that would be a heck of a deal. I would recommend getting compression test results, and then start checking the suspension components for excess play.
Originally Posted by jacobcartmill
seems like a hell of a deal to me.
also, damn... it looks like somebody took a katana sword to the spoiler/tail light
any FD with a clear title and a newish engine/turbos is worth 8500 easy, as long as it doesnt need any big body work or have any big issues
also, damn... it looks like somebody took a katana sword to the spoiler/tail light
any FD with a clear title and a newish engine/turbos is worth 8500 easy, as long as it doesnt need any big body work or have any big issues
Hahahaha. That's exactly what I said. Never drive your RX-7 through a sword fight!
-ever since i removed the pollution pump, it will stall occasionally but with a retune that problem would be eliminated. (retune costs $300 in Columbus)
04-24-07 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Fitz7099
Can any one explain to me what the pollution pump is? Why would removing it cause a problem?
However, typically with aftermarket ECU's its not a problem and the idle can be tuned properly.
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04-26-07 | 01:50 AM
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Welp, just got off the phone with him! Good news and bad.
The good:
The bad:
I'll be taking it for a test drive this weekend, and hopefully buying it!
Is this a common mod for RX-7s? Could the APEXi Power FC be used to tune it? Or would I need an aftermarket ECU?
This will be my only car, so it has to run
I've been reading as much as I can, but haven't dug into RX-7 tech too much due to it being exam week.
The good:
- He wants $8,000!
- Shifts smooth
- Pulls Strong
- Quiet Exhaust
- IC from a 944
The bad:
- Switch on driver side door for pass window doesn't work - get a new switch+wires - $cheap
- idles terrible/stalls at idle due to pollution pump (see above) - retune = $expensive (unless it can be done with the APEXi FC
- radio/speakers are "on the way out" - i dont know what on the way out means - $0 to $expensive
- needs a new boost controller (set at 6psi, spikes to 10psi) - $15 home depot
- paint - $2-5000
I'll be taking it for a test drive this weekend, and hopefully buying it!
Originally Posted by Mahjik
The airpump injects secondary air to help burn off emissions. The stock ECU has already compensated for the extra air, so removing it causes the car to run a little rich at idle causing the car to idle extremely lumpy and almost die unless the idle rpm is raised a bit.
However, typically with aftermarket ECU's its not a problem and the idle can be tuned properly.
However, typically with aftermarket ECU's its not a problem and the idle can be tuned properly.
This will be my only car, so it has to run
I've been reading as much as I can, but haven't dug into RX-7 tech too much due to it being exam week.
05-02-07 | 11:55 PM
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Test Driving an FD.
I'm taking an FD for a test drive tomorrow. The guy wants $8,000 for it (see my original thread HERE ). I've read over the RX-7s buyer's guide and I've got a pretty good understanding of what I need to look for.
Do you have any tips or things I should look for? This is my first rotary car!
Thanks,
John
Do you have any tips or things I should look for? This is my first rotary car!
Thanks,
John
05-03-07 | 12:11 AM
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Well,it seems like a great deal..However,take my word for this please..Get it compression checked before you buy it..I wish I had known about the rx7 club before I bought mine and had somebody tell me that..It would have saved me a lot of time and money..Make sure that when you are test driving it that it boosts normally as well..Make sure the vacuum and idle are good.Good luck!
05-03-07 | 12:20 AM
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does anybody else see that split in the I/C coupling in the intake(mani) side?
BTW, boost controller set to 6psi? spikes to 10? sounds like he doesnt know much about the FD's boost pattern.... without boost controller it is 10-8-10psi..... so dialing it down with a B/C is useless.
the Power FC is a performance ECU to replace the factory ECU, and it can be tuned to make up for the absence of the air pump. depending on where you live i suggest you find a tuner who can tune the PFC on an FD. you will make more power and in some instances actually get some better fuel economy out of it.
and for it being a DD i'd say keep it as it is and only maintain it and restore it to a better condition, and of course doing the the aforementioned reliability upgrades in the FAQ helps out a lot as well.
this site is really helpful and including the FSM, this site is the bible for your car.
goodluck and if you do end up getting the car i hope you are happy with it
BTW, boost controller set to 6psi? spikes to 10? sounds like he doesnt know much about the FD's boost pattern.... without boost controller it is 10-8-10psi..... so dialing it down with a B/C is useless.
the Power FC is a performance ECU to replace the factory ECU, and it can be tuned to make up for the absence of the air pump. depending on where you live i suggest you find a tuner who can tune the PFC on an FD. you will make more power and in some instances actually get some better fuel economy out of it.
and for it being a DD i'd say keep it as it is and only maintain it and restore it to a better condition, and of course doing the the aforementioned reliability upgrades in the FAQ helps out a lot as well.
this site is really helpful and including the FSM, this site is the bible for your car.
goodluck and if you do end up getting the car i hope you are happy with it
Last edited by cptpain; 05-03-07 at 12:34 AM.
05-03-07 | 12:25 AM
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Other than a compression check, it sounds like you are good to go. Barring a compression check, look for good vacuum on a boost gauge or something. The buyer's guide is pretty good.
Thats a decent price. I bought my first FD for $9k. It was the opposite of yours - great paint and interior but blown motor. Spent about $4-5k on motor and other mechanical stuff.
Good luck.
Thats a decent price. I bought my first FD for $9k. It was the opposite of yours - great paint and interior but blown motor. Spent about $4-5k on motor and other mechanical stuff.
Good luck.
05-03-07 | 12:38 AM
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pretty sure he posted this is salvage title or rebuilt title. Steve is a good guy, he's not lying to do you when hes posted whats wrong/whats not wrong with it. I've known him for a few years, very loose rotary friendship; but a good guy from what I knew from past experiance.
Real question is, how big is your pocket, extra money earned, and what plans do you have? Buying an FD is affordable, but once something majorly goes wrong; you make sad faces when it burns deep.
Real question is, how big is your pocket, extra money earned, and what plans do you have? Buying an FD is affordable, but once something majorly goes wrong; you make sad faces when it burns deep.
05-03-07 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Authentikdit
Well,it seems like a great deal..However,take my word for this please..Get it compression checked before you buy it..I wish I had known about the rx7 club before I bought mine and had somebody tell me that..It would have saved me a lot of time and money..Make sure that when you are test driving it that it boosts normally as well..Make sure the vacuum and idle are good.Good luck!
What is a good idle vacuum?
Originally Posted by cptpain
does anybody else see that split in the I/C coupling in the intake(mani) side?
BTW, boost controller set to 6psi? spikes to 10? sounds like he doesnt know much about the FD's boost pattern.... without boost controller it is 10-8-10psi..... so dialing it down with a B/C is useless.
and for it being a DD i'd say keep it as it is and only maintain it and restore it to a better condition, and of course doing the the aforementioned reliability upgrades in the FAQ helps out a lot as well.
this site is really helpful and including the FSM, this site is the bible for your car.
goodluck and if you do end up getting the car i hope you are happy with it
BTW, boost controller set to 6psi? spikes to 10? sounds like he doesnt know much about the FD's boost pattern.... without boost controller it is 10-8-10psi..... so dialing it down with a B/C is useless.
and for it being a DD i'd say keep it as it is and only maintain it and restore it to a better condition, and of course doing the the aforementioned reliability upgrades in the FAQ helps out a lot as well.
this site is really helpful and including the FSM, this site is the bible for your car.
goodluck and if you do end up getting the car i hope you are happy with it
Originally Posted by CyborgRyu
pretty sure he posted this is salvage title or rebuilt title. Steve is a good guy, he's not lying to do you when hes posted whats wrong/whats not wrong with it. I've known him for a few years, very loose rotary friendship; but a good guy from what I knew from past experiance.
Real question is, how big is your pocket, extra money earned, and what plans do you have? Buying an FD is affordable, but once something majorly goes wrong; you make sad faces when it burns deep.
Real question is, how big is your pocket, extra money earned, and what plans do you have? Buying an FD is affordable, but once something majorly goes wrong; you make sad faces when it burns deep.
Oh, when is your FD going to be on the road? Jason's FC (red, hood scoop) is supposedly pushing 390+hp to the wheels and is running low low 12s and high 11s!
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