Atkins Rotary Bad rebuild
03-21-07 | 08:42 PM
#76
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From: San Lorenzo, California
I don't know why this was moved from the Good Guy Bad guy here to the 3rd gen forum, but it isn't staying here. Since the discussion somewhat seems to be about reusing rotors (which I would NOT want that rotor in my engine), I'm MOVING it to General Rotary.
03-22-07 | 01:11 AM
#77
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From: Springfield, MO
I have a question in reguard to the possibility of hot spots and detenation caused by the ridges left by the qouges. It also makes no sense to put those seals in the motor and then cheap out on a rotor! I also agree with Kevin that it would seal but i would still want better rotor if it were mine. The only question i would have for Adkins is what is your policy reguarding used rotors and possible damage? This is a no win thread just alot of opinions. Thanks!
03-22-07 | 02:08 AM
#78
Originally Posted by Jason
From my understanding the company purchased the engine from Atkins for the customer (first owner). I dont think this customer knew where it was coming from. They sent it to us because they couldnt get it running after dropping the motor in. It then sat at there shop for a year because the customer couldnt pay the bill.
I think you could argue forever if the rotor is acceptable when rebuilding. Fact is some shops would use it and others wouldnt.
Jason
I think you could argue forever if the rotor is acceptable when rebuilding. Fact is some shops would use it and others wouldnt.
Jason
A owner of a FD takes his car to shop A for problems. Finds out he needs a rebuild.
Authorizes a new engine. Usually shops at this point will require some sort of deposit from the customer to ensure costs such as the purchase of the engine are covered.
How do I know this? Because of being a Service Manager for a repair shop for 5 years.
Shop A gets the engine and installs it. They can't get it running.
So, How long after the engine was installed to the time you guys.(Jason) got the car running and returned it shop A?
And I'm sure that you guys probably found some things wrong with it?
So then back at shop A at some point the shop owner blows a coolant seal?
Did this happen right after it was returned to shop A and the shop owner was test driving it and it overheated?
Or was the Fd owner not able to pay his bill and the car just sat until shop owner A decided to lien sell it(to himself), then he proceeded to break in the engine and blew a seal?
Why would someone that owned a FD just walk away?
Then the thread starter buys the vehicle years later and now it gets torn down because of bad coolant seals.
I don't know about you but there are way too many holes in this whole story for me to swallow.
03-22-07 | 12:33 PM
#79
My experience with builders is that they do keep an open communication with the owner. The owner ultimately decides what parts he wants to reuse.
In this case, chances are Atkins called up the original owner and told him the state of the rotor and most likely stated that the engine would work just fine... I think the owner made concious decision to reuse that rotor.
M-
In this case, chances are Atkins called up the original owner and told him the state of the rotor and most likely stated that the engine would work just fine... I think the owner made concious decision to reuse that rotor.
M-
03-24-07 | 01:57 PM
#80
rx7doctor.....
there are too many holes BECAUSE you keep making them. ****, its real simple to put an engine together with a coolant seal pinched. but this HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A COOLANT SEAL. to me it looks like, WHY WOULD A COMPANY PUT A BANGED UP ROTOR LIKE THAT IN.
montego.....
i highly doubt that atkins called and asked the owner if they should put that back in.
1. doesn't seem like atkins had contact with the original owner, just the shop that was doing the install.
2. been seen many times shops making mistakes and putting broken oil pumps back in, chipped parts, warped part, etc.. thinking they are ok, but in the long run ruin things unexpected. especially if the shop has a warranty that is VOID if anybody else opens up the engine. so who else will know whats in there unless they don't care about the warranty.
there are too many holes BECAUSE you keep making them. ****, its real simple to put an engine together with a coolant seal pinched. but this HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A COOLANT SEAL. to me it looks like, WHY WOULD A COMPANY PUT A BANGED UP ROTOR LIKE THAT IN.
montego.....
i highly doubt that atkins called and asked the owner if they should put that back in.
1. doesn't seem like atkins had contact with the original owner, just the shop that was doing the install.
2. been seen many times shops making mistakes and putting broken oil pumps back in, chipped parts, warped part, etc.. thinking they are ok, but in the long run ruin things unexpected. especially if the shop has a warranty that is VOID if anybody else opens up the engine. so who else will know whats in there unless they don't care about the warranty.
03-29-07 | 03:02 AM
#81
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Joined: Apr 2003
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From: Idaho
hey look at it this way if they sold you the car with blown motor then you propably bought it cheap. if it is less than 3000 dollars then you got 3mm cramic seals for dirt cheap look at it the good way. and build your own engines so you know what go into them and when they fail then you know why.
eric
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