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Our FD RX7 ABS Delete Kit is something we spent months of trial and error piecing together. So many versions of this kit manifest and were sacrificed before ending up here. We took into consideration fit, form, ease of install, serviceability and of course other kits on the market. We strongly believe our kit to be among the best in all categories. We offer it in both LHD and RHD configurations. Built around a wilwood prop valve, our kit has the goal to free up quite a bit of real estate in your engine bay to allow space for other items or to simply tidy up the bay for a better presentation. @zli944 did us the courtesy of running our kit at Buttonwillow and Thunderhill and had some outstanding feedback for us. We are confident in our kit.
FIT: The initial approach was to find a way to have this kit be as invisible and unobtrusive as possible. The one things that is unavoidable is the long line from the master to the opposite side brake. It simply HAS to run across the car somehow. Routing through the wiper cowl was considered but passed on, running along the top section where the factory abs lines went defeats the purpose, routing it over the motor was an obvious no go as well. We also didn’t want anyone to have to modify the chassis with drilling holes or anything. We ended up meeting in the middle with this and have only 2 short sections visible by using the small shelf already built into the firewall for it to live under. It also utilizes mount points and holes that are already existing.
FORM: Using stainless braid was the obvious choice for this along with crimp fittings and the wilwood prop valve looks good on its own. The aluminum prop mount, we feel is very presentable in its raw form. You are of course welcome to dress it up however you wish. The kit comes with new stainless hardware for anything that requires hardware and the adel clamps were specifically chosen for their very professional look. Hardlines going from the master to the prop was the most obvious choice since we believe if it has to be seen to make it something worth looking at. Visually, we believe this kit to be very classy for something stockish or a full blown race car.
INSTALL: Custom and aftermarket parts don’t always have to be task to install. We feel ease of install is very important of any part or kit. Time is valuable, spend more of it driving. There is an instructional video that comes with the purchase of the kit and our multiple platform inboxes are ALWAYS open just in case you need extra help. The feedback from everyone who has purchased a kit so far says its very easy to install. Most stating it took about an hour from start to finish.
SERVICEABILITY: Although we don’t anticipate this kit requiring any sort of upkeep, should it require it, its not installed in such a way that there is any dread that comes with it. Serviceability is a factor that we take into account with all our products.
The kits are currently available and ready to ship on our website here
Can you explain the benefits of this and how does it improve braking? For a street car ABS can be beneficial so by deleting the Abs will that result in locking up the wheels in a panic stop?
Thanks
The short answer..... have you engaged your abs on the street before? Not just in the FD but any car?
The long answer..... its purpose isn't to improve braking. It allows the ability to tune the brakes. It also allows for a more predictable car on the track giving you full control to drive as you see fit. You don't have to worry about the abs making the car do something YOU weren't intending to do. In addition to that it frees up a considerable amount of real estate in the engine bay. Of course it varies by car but some run out of space to put things as builds progress.
It really just comes down to how you use your car, your driving style and how you have or intend to have your engine bay set up. after 12 years of FD ownership I can say I've never engaged my abs prior to deleting it nor have I been in a situation where abs would have been engaged post delete.
We can't plan or anticipate every situation so just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean it won't happen. I attribute this to my driving style and the confidence I have in my equipment and ability to handle my car.
Its a personal choice to keep or delete it. You know how you drive, you know your typical driving conditions, you know your car and its equipment, you know you best. If you feel your car would be unsafe without abs then keep it in there. If you feel you can do without and would like to explore the benefits of removing it then go for it.
we advise people remove their windsheild washer bottle and then ask when was the last time they used it. Months will go by and when we check in, the answer is always "I havent". They also can't remember the last time they used it. As mentioned, it's a personal choice.
Some people feel better carrying around a system that has never been used in the duration of their ownership for the simple fact that one day they MIGHT use it. If you feel like your driving environment coupled with your driving style benefits from having abs present then keep it.
Try going out one day and see if you can get it to engage if you've never actually seen it work.
TLDR: keep abs if you feel you need it to survive, delete it if you feel you don't. The kit isn't designed to IMPROVE braking. It's meant to give the ability to TUNE your braking.
The short answer..... have you engaged your abs on the street before? Not just in the FD but any car?
The long answer..... its purpose isn't to improve braking. It allows the ability to tune the brakes. It also allows for a more predictable car on the track giving you full control to drive as you see fit. You don't have to worry about the abs making the car do something YOU weren't intending to do. In addition to that it frees up a considerable amount of real estate in the engine bay. Of course it varies by car but some run out of space to put things as builds progress.
It really just comes down to how you use your car, your driving style and how you have or intend to have your engine bay set up. after 12 years of FD ownership I can say I've never engaged my abs prior to deleting it nor have I been in a situation where abs would have been engaged post delete.
We can't plan or anticipate every situation so just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean it won't happen. I attribute this to my driving style and the confidence I have in my equipment and ability to handle my car.
Its a personal choice to keep or delete it. You know how you drive, you know your typical driving conditions, you know your car and its equipment, you know you best. If you feel your car would be unsafe without abs then keep it in there. If you feel you can do without and would like to explore the benefits of removing it then go for it.
we advise people remove their windsheild washer bottle and then ask when was the last time they used it. Months will go by and when we check in, the answer is always "I havent". They also can't remember the last time they used it. As mentioned, it's a personal choice.
Some people feel better carrying around a system that has never been used in the duration of their ownership for the simple fact that one day they MIGHT use it. If you feel like your driving environment coupled with your driving style benefits from having abs present then keep it.
Try going out one day and see if you can get it to engage if you've never actually seen it work.
TLDR: keep abs if you feel you need it to survive, delete it if you feel you don't. The kit isn't designed to IMPROVE braking. It's meant to give the ability to TUNE your braking.
Thank you the explanation. I don't really track the car it's only Street driven. Was just curious...
TLDR: keep abs if you feel you need it to survive, delete it if you feel you don't. The kit isn't designed to IMPROVE braking. It's meant to give the ability to TUNE your braking.
This is a pretty crap explanation for reasoning to delete ABS. Especially since there is a proportioning valve on the ABS unit that a lot of people don't know about.
Here is a better reason: The Mazda OE ABS unit is designed in the early 90's and intended for use with the 225 tires (and the stickiest street tire at the time was not very good). When you start overpowering the car, putting wider tires on, and actually going/stopping fast - the factory unit cannot keep up. The pulsation is not going to help you stop any better in a scenario where it is needed. At best it will prevent you from flat spotting some tires though!
All of this ASSUMES the factory unit is functioning properly - and I guarantee that over half of them are NOT. There are really delicate valves and solenoids that wear out and you would never know it wasn't working.
If you want a decent ABS system in an FD then you need to migrate the e46 or the s2k unit in, which has been done and works well.
As far as your kit goes, I really like the proportioning valve placement. But I would beware of putting soft brake lines in the engine compartment. That is generally a big no no in the auto industry, and an even bigger concern in our already hot running fd's. Hard lines are needed when going over the engine/ exhaust of the engine bay.
While we appreciate the input, quoting a small section of our explanation and then calling it crap is rude. The paragraphs before the TLDR give much reasoning and detail on what can be considered when deciding to keep or delete it.
Your explanation is not THEE explanation and neither is ours. There are many reasons someone would delete it or keep it and performance isn't necessarily a consideration at all.
Second, we've done enough testing and observations to be comfortable with using soft lines in the bay. Theres no performance advantage or disadvantage to one over the other in this scenario. It will act all the same regardless of line material used.
Some prototype versions of this kit started out as 70% hardline actually. As it evolved to what it is, we ended just using them at the prop as this was the most visually pleasing and the only place we saw necessary. This version on sale is actually version 5. We didn't just throw a bunch of stuff together and call it a kit. There was quite a bit of work and consideration that went into it.
Second, we've done enough testing and observations to be comfortable with using soft lines in the bay.
Can you elaborate on the testing?
I too have had a lot of experience of soft lines in the bay. The biggest concern is when the soft line gets too hot, it internally melts and partially closes. This will create a unwanted bias between the left front and right front wheel due to where your soft line is. I've melted a line that was more than 8 inches above the exhaust. It visually looked fine, but internally had collapsed.
I'm not trying to argue, I'm just stating that this is a bigger safety thing than people realize. So if you have done a lot of testing maybe you can describe what you have done to ease the risks.
A customer has graciously sent us his 929 master cylinder so we can make him the appropriate lines. We are looking to have a 929 master option availble for our kit within the next couple weeks. We will have the LHD version available and will work on the RHD after. We don't currently have a RHD car in the shop with its booster removed for testing
The 929 mod to the kit has been completed. We will have our line person spit out a bunch of these and they will be available on the website shortly after. Don't be deceived by its shape... this line was really complex
Production lines are complete and will be available on the website soon. The hardline will work on a RHD set up but we cannot confirm the long soft line that runs across the firewall will reach to the other side of the master. Not at this time anyway. It looks like there is enough slack for it to reach but we don't have a car to test it on to confirm. So for now we will only confirm and say this works on LHD cars with the 929 master and our kit.
There will be no additional charge for this selection when ordering as we are simply replacing one of the included hardlines with a different version.
My ABS pump recently went out on me, so I decided to just go with a delete kit.
I came across the Full Detail kit and it was the only one available that accommodates for the 929 master cylinder.
All of this kind of fell into place as my BBK arrived a few days after the ABS pump went out.
SO, on to the experience of installation.
The kit was pretty straight forward, everything you need is included excluding the brake fluid.
After removing the ABS system, everything else was pretty clear of what to do.
at first, the only part I ran into trouble was the hard lines for the rear proportioning valve.
I emailed Mike at FD and he replied within minutes. He sent me some pics of how the lines needed to go and I got everything in order right after.
(extremely happy with his customer service).
OVERALL, I am really happy with the kit and the new setup.
FD sent out the kit the same day I purchased it and received it the same week.
Difficulty wise; it was pretty easy to get it done. just make sure you got enough brake fluid and the proper tools.
here's some pics of the kit after install. I didn't to document while I was installing.
We ship globally but since shipping costs are built into the pricing for domestic, we have to quote it all separately. The auto calculators are basically a scam so we don't even offer it as an option. Message us your shipping information, which version of the kit and any extras you may want and we can get a quote for you.
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