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New tires
I got these new Toyo tires finally today (Proxes T1-R) I can surely recommand them ![Smilie](https://www.rx7club.com/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Price is not that high like Pirelli Pzero's and i like the performance in wet better of Toyo's in general.
here are som pics :
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What the experience of other Rx-7 drivers with tires? I'm a fully Toyo addict , because of their performance in the rain.
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Price is not that high like Pirelli Pzero's and i like the performance in wet better of Toyo's in general.
here are som pics :
![](http://rxseven.demon.nl/PICT0389sml.jpg)
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What the experience of other Rx-7 drivers with tires? I'm a fully Toyo addict , because of their performance in the rain.
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I have Bridgestone Potenza's, but don't have that much experience in the rain. I tend to avoid rain, and drive carefully when I get surprised. Other than that, I mainly ended up with those tires because they were easier to get. I actually wanted Michelin in 255/45/15 (Michelin is the only firm still making that size) for the rear, but at 250€ each and 8 weeks delivery time, I wisely got 225's and went for Potenza's
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I've got fulda extremos 225/40/18 in front and 235/40/18 on the rears. No complaints about them, not to expensive and great grip in wet conditions, I drive mine daily, so I see lot's of rain... ('-')
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Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 here, 225/45/17 and 245/40/17. They were not cheap, but i have not complainst. Even the wear doesn`t seems to be bad (one set should last season - fronts used on about 10 trackdays, rears pretty much only on street). At sosnova rears last only like 15 minutes
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Maxxis MA-Z1 Tire Test
Maxxis MA-Z1 Tire Test - Australia's Wheels Magazine
As you probably know, there is a tire test report in the May issue of
the Australia's Wheels Magazine, in which our MA-Z1 ranked 3rd.
235/45/17
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1 : 496.0pts : Goodyear Eagle Revspec RS-02
2 : 494.7pts : Michelin Pilot Preceda
3 : 493.5pts : Maxxis Victra MA-Z1
4 : 492.8pts : Bridgestone Potenza S-03
5 : 487.8pts : Toyo Proxes T1R
6 : 484.4pts : Yokohama AVS Sport V-102A
7 : 479.5pts : BF Goodrich G-Force Sport
8 : 474.3pts : Dunlop Direzza DZ101
9 : 471.5pts : Kumho Ecsta KU19
The five tests counting towards the final score were:
1 : Wet braking (70-0km/h)
2 : Dry braking (80-0km/h)
3 : Wet cornering
4 : Dry cornering
5 : Slalom
Test 1 : Wet braking (70-0km/h)
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1 : 26.05m : Maxxis Victra MA-Z1
2 : 26.37m : Michelin Pilot Preceda
3 : 26.44m : Goodyear Eagle Revspec RS-02
4 : 26.48m : Toyo Proxes T1R
5 : 27.19m : Kumho Ecsta KU19
6 : 27.34m : Bridgestone Potenza S-03
7 : 27.50m : Dunlop Direzza DZ101
8 : 27.66m : Yokohama AVS Sport V-102A
9 : 27.88m : BF Goodrich G-Force Sport
Test 2 : Dry braking (80-0km/h)
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1 : 29.76m : Goodyear Eagle Revspec RS-02
2 : 29.84m : Michelin Pilot Preceda
3 : 29.87m : Toyo Proxes T1R
4 : 29.95m : Maxxis Victra MA-Z1
5 : 30.16m : Bridgestone Potenza S-03
6 : 30.24m : BF Goodrich G-Force Sport
7 : 30.87m : Yokohama AVS Sport V-102A
8 : 32.42m : Kumho Ecsta KU19
9 : 32.60m : Dunlop Direzza DZ101
Test 3 : Wet cornering (time between 2 points)
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1 : 5.74sec : Goodyear Eagle Revspec RS-02
2 : 5.75sec : Toyo Proxes T1R
3 : 5.76sec : Maxxis Victra MA-Z1
4 : 5.79sec : Bridgestone Potenza S-03
5 : 5.82sec : Kumho Ecsta KU19
6 : 5.86sec : Michelin Pilot Preceda
7 : 5.88sec : Yokohama AVS Sport V-102A
8 : 5.93sec : Dunlop Direzza DZ101
9 : 6.01sec : BF Goodrich G-Force Sport
Test 4 : Dry cornering (time between 2 points)
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1 : 5.98sec : Bridgestone Potenza S-03
2 : 6.03sec : Goodyear Eagle Revspec RS-02
3 : 6.04sec : Michelin Pilot Preceda
4 : 6.06sec : Maxxis Victra MA-Z1
5 : 6.11sec : Yokohama AVS Sport V-102A
6 : 6.16sec : Dunlop Direzza DZ101
7 : 6.18sec : BF Goodrich G-Force Sport
8 : 6.24sec : Toyo Proxes T1R
9 : 6.43sec : Kumho Ecsta KU19
Test 5 : Slalom
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1 : 9.23sec : Bridgestone Potenza S-03
2 : 9.30sec : Michelin Pilot Preceda
3 : 9.34sec : Yokohama AVS Sport V-102A
4 : 9.40sec : Goodyear Eagle Revspec RS-02
5 : 9.59sec : BF Goodrich G-Force Sport
6 : 9.62sec : Maxxis Victra MA-Z1
7 : 9.63sec : Dunlop Direzza DZ101
8 : 9.75sec : Toyo Proxes T1R
9 : 9.81sec : Kumho Ecsta KU19
Test 6 : Noise @ 80km/h (not included in result)
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1 : 57.1dB : Maxxis Victra MA-Z1
2 : 58.1dB : Michelin Pilot Preceda
3 : 58.6dB : BF Goodrich G-Force Sport
4 : 59.7dB : Yokohama AVS Sport V-102A
5 : 59.8dB : Goodyear Eagle Revspec RS-02
6 : 60.2dB : Bridgestone Potenza S-03
7 : 60.4dB : Dunlop Direzza DZ101
8 : 60.6dB : Toyo Proxes T1R
9 : 61.9dB : Kumho Ecsta KU19
For more info go to www.maxxis.com
I work for the greek importer, so this is how I know.
-Fanis
As you probably know, there is a tire test report in the May issue of
the Australia's Wheels Magazine, in which our MA-Z1 ranked 3rd.
235/45/17
------------------------------------------------------
1 : 496.0pts : Goodyear Eagle Revspec RS-02
2 : 494.7pts : Michelin Pilot Preceda
3 : 493.5pts : Maxxis Victra MA-Z1
4 : 492.8pts : Bridgestone Potenza S-03
5 : 487.8pts : Toyo Proxes T1R
6 : 484.4pts : Yokohama AVS Sport V-102A
7 : 479.5pts : BF Goodrich G-Force Sport
8 : 474.3pts : Dunlop Direzza DZ101
9 : 471.5pts : Kumho Ecsta KU19
The five tests counting towards the final score were:
1 : Wet braking (70-0km/h)
2 : Dry braking (80-0km/h)
3 : Wet cornering
4 : Dry cornering
5 : Slalom
Test 1 : Wet braking (70-0km/h)
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1 : 26.05m : Maxxis Victra MA-Z1
2 : 26.37m : Michelin Pilot Preceda
3 : 26.44m : Goodyear Eagle Revspec RS-02
4 : 26.48m : Toyo Proxes T1R
5 : 27.19m : Kumho Ecsta KU19
6 : 27.34m : Bridgestone Potenza S-03
7 : 27.50m : Dunlop Direzza DZ101
8 : 27.66m : Yokohama AVS Sport V-102A
9 : 27.88m : BF Goodrich G-Force Sport
Test 2 : Dry braking (80-0km/h)
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1 : 29.76m : Goodyear Eagle Revspec RS-02
2 : 29.84m : Michelin Pilot Preceda
3 : 29.87m : Toyo Proxes T1R
4 : 29.95m : Maxxis Victra MA-Z1
5 : 30.16m : Bridgestone Potenza S-03
6 : 30.24m : BF Goodrich G-Force Sport
7 : 30.87m : Yokohama AVS Sport V-102A
8 : 32.42m : Kumho Ecsta KU19
9 : 32.60m : Dunlop Direzza DZ101
Test 3 : Wet cornering (time between 2 points)
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1 : 5.74sec : Goodyear Eagle Revspec RS-02
2 : 5.75sec : Toyo Proxes T1R
3 : 5.76sec : Maxxis Victra MA-Z1
4 : 5.79sec : Bridgestone Potenza S-03
5 : 5.82sec : Kumho Ecsta KU19
6 : 5.86sec : Michelin Pilot Preceda
7 : 5.88sec : Yokohama AVS Sport V-102A
8 : 5.93sec : Dunlop Direzza DZ101
9 : 6.01sec : BF Goodrich G-Force Sport
Test 4 : Dry cornering (time between 2 points)
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1 : 5.98sec : Bridgestone Potenza S-03
2 : 6.03sec : Goodyear Eagle Revspec RS-02
3 : 6.04sec : Michelin Pilot Preceda
4 : 6.06sec : Maxxis Victra MA-Z1
5 : 6.11sec : Yokohama AVS Sport V-102A
6 : 6.16sec : Dunlop Direzza DZ101
7 : 6.18sec : BF Goodrich G-Force Sport
8 : 6.24sec : Toyo Proxes T1R
9 : 6.43sec : Kumho Ecsta KU19
Test 5 : Slalom
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1 : 9.23sec : Bridgestone Potenza S-03
2 : 9.30sec : Michelin Pilot Preceda
3 : 9.34sec : Yokohama AVS Sport V-102A
4 : 9.40sec : Goodyear Eagle Revspec RS-02
5 : 9.59sec : BF Goodrich G-Force Sport
6 : 9.62sec : Maxxis Victra MA-Z1
7 : 9.63sec : Dunlop Direzza DZ101
8 : 9.75sec : Toyo Proxes T1R
9 : 9.81sec : Kumho Ecsta KU19
Test 6 : Noise @ 80km/h (not included in result)
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1 : 57.1dB : Maxxis Victra MA-Z1
2 : 58.1dB : Michelin Pilot Preceda
3 : 58.6dB : BF Goodrich G-Force Sport
4 : 59.7dB : Yokohama AVS Sport V-102A
5 : 59.8dB : Goodyear Eagle Revspec RS-02
6 : 60.2dB : Bridgestone Potenza S-03
7 : 60.4dB : Dunlop Direzza DZ101
8 : 60.6dB : Toyo Proxes T1R
9 : 61.9dB : Kumho Ecsta KU19
For more info go to www.maxxis.com
I work for the greek importer, so this is how I know.
-Fanis
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Come on people!!!
No one will comment???
From the test it seems that the T-1R is not as good as we all thought it would be.
How much did you buy them for Mireck?
-Fanis
No one will comment???
From the test it seems that the T-1R is not as good as we all thought it would be.
How much did you buy them for Mireck?
-Fanis
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Fanis,
I have run my Bridgestone S-03 on the track once and I was very happy with the performance.
Unfortunately, I have not had a chance to test other tires brands on your list to compare. I would think any of the top 5 or 6 tire brands are good enough for our needs for street and a few track days. Tire prices here (Denmark) can really swing, so it also has a big decision which tire someone may purchase.
I have run my Bridgestone S-03 on the track once and I was very happy with the performance.
Unfortunately, I have not had a chance to test other tires brands on your list to compare. I would think any of the top 5 or 6 tire brands are good enough for our needs for street and a few track days. Tire prices here (Denmark) can really swing, so it also has a big decision which tire someone may purchase.
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S-03 alllll the way for me
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...ay.jsp?type=MP
too bad they don't make the S-02 anymore, really liked the thread on those:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...ay.jsp?type=MP
too bad they don't make the S-02 anymore, really liked the thread on those:
![](https://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/bridgestone/bs_potenza_s_02.jpg)
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Originally Posted by OC94Rx7
Fanis,
I have run my Bridgestone S-03 on the track once and I was very happy with the performance.
Unfortunately, I have not had a chance to test other tires brands on your list to compare. I would think any of the top 5 or 6 tire brands are good enough for our needs for street and a few track days. Tire prices here (Denmark) can really swing, so it also has a big decision which tire someone may purchase.
I have run my Bridgestone S-03 on the track once and I was very happy with the performance.
Unfortunately, I have not had a chance to test other tires brands on your list to compare. I would think any of the top 5 or 6 tire brands are good enough for our needs for street and a few track days. Tire prices here (Denmark) can really swing, so it also has a big decision which tire someone may purchase.
-Fanis
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Originally Posted by Andreas
S-03 alllll the way for me
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...ay.jsp?type=MP
too bad they don't make the S-02 anymore, really liked the thread on those:
![](https://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/bridgestone/bs_potenza_s_02.jpg)
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...ay.jsp?type=MP
too bad they don't make the S-02 anymore, really liked the thread on those:
![](https://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/bridgestone/bs_potenza_s_02.jpg)
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Kindda scary but they managed
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Originally Posted by FxF
Come on people!!!
No one will comment???
From the test it seems that the T-1R is not as good as we all thought it would be.
How much did you buy them for Mireck?
-Fanis
No one will comment???
From the test it seems that the T-1R is not as good as we all thought it would be.
How much did you buy them for Mireck?
-Fanis
I do not care for dry performance of a tire, i only look for rain performance in combination with the price/quality.
I'm not doing extreme crazy things with the car (according to my standards
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But i heard great stories about the Bridgestones indeed. but the bridgestones would have cost me +- 200 euro's more
On my trackcar i only want semi-slicks, like the Advan A032r or Advan A048
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Originally Posted by Mireck 12A
I got 4 of them for 400 euro's total, complete with balancing ect.
I do not care for dry performance of a tire, i only look for rain performance in combination with the price/quality.
I'm not doing extreme crazy things with the car (according to my standards
), and i 've always have had very positive experience with Toyo and wet conditions and their price/life is good.
But i heard great stories about the Bridgestones indeed. but the bridgestones would have cost me +- 200 euro's more
On my trackcar i only want semi-slicks, like the Advan A032r or Advan A048
I do not care for dry performance of a tire, i only look for rain performance in combination with the price/quality.
I'm not doing extreme crazy things with the car (according to my standards
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But i heard great stories about the Bridgestones indeed. but the bridgestones would have cost me +- 200 euro's more
On my trackcar i only want semi-slicks, like the Advan A032r or Advan A048
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1 : 26.05m : Maxxis Victra MA-Z1
2 : 26.37m : Michelin Pilot Preceda
3 : 26.44m : Goodyear Eagle Revspec RS-02
4 : 26.48m : Toyo Proxes T1R
You can see here the better wet results of the MA-Z1.
If you were a customer in Greece you would have got the tires complete for 380 euros. Which is pretty good since the Toyos are more expensive here than what you got them for.
For your track car you can get either the Advan Neova AD07 (more streetable) or the Advan A048.
Please share your comments with us.
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Maxxis has (had) a factory here in the Netherland (Oss) , it was producing Cheng-sjin tires (or something like that, don't recall the exact name atm)
I don't have any experience with Maxxis tires, but i do know the Toyo's will last for at least 30.000 km or so. (at least my last set of Toyo's did)
So the Toyo is for me the best compromise, speaking of wet performance/costs/long-life
"never change a winning team"
I don't have any experience with Maxxis tires, but i do know the Toyo's will last for at least 30.000 km or so. (at least my last set of Toyo's did)
So the Toyo is for me the best compromise, speaking of wet performance/costs/long-life
"never change a winning team"
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Actually, nothing says that a tire on one particular car will perform the same on another. Plus a lot depends on the "feeling" of the driver. If you're happy with those tires, you better stick to them, as at least you know what they are doing on your car.
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Originally Posted by Mireck 12A
Maxxis has (had) a factory here in the Netherland (Oss) , it was producing Cheng-sjin tires (or something like that, don't recall the exact name atm)
I don't have any experience with Maxxis tires, but i do know the Toyo's will last for at least 30.000 km or so. (at least my last set of Toyo's did)
So the Toyo is for me the best compromise, speaking of wet performance/costs/long-life
"never change a winning team"![Wink](https://www.rx7club.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
I don't have any experience with Maxxis tires, but i do know the Toyo's will last for at least 30.000 km or so. (at least my last set of Toyo's did)
So the Toyo is for me the best compromise, speaking of wet performance/costs/long-life
"never change a winning team"
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@ Fanis, thanks, could not recall the name exactly anymore
@Bart, yes that's the reason i stick with Toyo, there will always be better products, but this brand has not let me down ever in anyway (not even a flat tire, fingers crossed
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@Bart, yes that's the reason i stick with Toyo, there will always be better products, but this brand has not let me down ever in anyway (not even a flat tire, fingers crossed
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We all have diffrent priorities I guess. While Mireck wants his tyres to perform good at wet, I, from the other side, I dont care less. I never drive at wet conditions... ![Smilie](https://www.rx7club.com/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Fanis, at the test I dont see Pirelli tyres, especially P-Zero Nero or Rosso. I am thinking of buying a set of Pirelli's for the front wheels...
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Overall, Maxxis performed well, expect bracking at dry- witch is important here at Greece...
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Fanis, at the test I dont see Pirelli tyres, especially P-Zero Nero or Rosso. I am thinking of buying a set of Pirelli's for the front wheels...
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Overall, Maxxis performed well, expect bracking at dry- witch is important here at Greece...
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