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Old 04-29-04 | 08:08 PM
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Power FC, Fcon, Haltech and Microtech

I have a few questions about the Power FC, HKS F-Con V (pro), Haltech, and Microtech.

Will the Power FC or F-con V (or Vpro) run a PP 13B? The reason I ask is the Scoot 4 rotor is running off of 2 Power FC, so I assume it is possible and not sure if any one here has done it.

I know the Haltech and Mircotech, will both run a PPort so my question them is can you run a fly-by-wire throttle with either of them? And what is the benefit of using the E11 or LTX12 over the E6X and LTX8? I saw a few differences but I am not sure if they are really worth the extra cash. Also I know the Microtechs come preprogramed and need to be sent back to be reflash for another vehicle, but does the Haltechs need the same?
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Re: Power FC, Fcon, Haltech and Microtech

Originally posted by eyecandy
I know the Haltech and Mircotech, will both run a PPort so my question them is can you run a fly-by-wire throttle with either of them?
Haltech cannot do fly-by-wire throttle control.
Only EMS I know of that can do that is MoTeC.

And what is the benefit of using the E11 or LTX12 over the E6X and LTX8? I saw a few differences but I am not sure if they are really worth the extra cash.
Haltech E11V2 blows away everything else, and it's worth the money if you can afford it.


Also I know the Microtechs come preprogramed and need to be sent back to be reflash for another vehicle, but does the Haltechs need the same?
Haltech doesn't need all that bullshit, and the newer E11V2 can do firmware upgrades by itself.

This means you can run the Haltech on a one-cylinder piston, one rotor, two rotor, three rotor...up to 4 rotor, 12-cylinder piston just by changing the setting via the comm proggie.  No need to send it back to Haltech AUS...


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Old 04-30-04 | 03:09 PM
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Are you can pay for your P-port FD with the sale of your $13K FC?
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Originally posted by Hamza734
Are you can pay for your P-port FD with the sale of your $13K FC?
No its just I do not need 3 cars, ecspecially when I am only 20 years old

Thanks Reted!

Do you have any experience with the Haltech E11, or even Motecs?

Yeah I read Motec can do it, I have though about if I go with the Haltech E11, then I may also think about getting the M4, I believe that will while do it. I think it is also about $3-400 more for the M4 pro kit over the E11 kit.

Do any of the haltechs need to be sent back to Haltech AUS?
Old 04-30-04 | 06:29 PM
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Originally posted by eyecandy
Do you have any experience with the Haltech E11, or even Motecs?
I probably have some of the most extensive experience with the Haltech E11V1 in the US. This is not saying much, as the E11V2 superceded the E11V1 a few months ago.  I do have two E11V2 installs waiting in the wing and should be completed by the end of the year.

I have limited experience with the MoTeC stuff.  If I had the money, I'd go MoTeC, but it's very expensive!  Updates and purchases need to be done through an authorized (country - US?) dealer - else, MoTeC won't support you.


Do any of the haltechs need to be sent back to Haltech AUS?
Occasionally, the E6K's will blow their comm chips, but we have had ZERO problems with the E11's in terms of hardware.  Any problems we're encountered are fixed through firmware upgrades which can be done by the end-user - the E11 can do firmware upgrading through it's comm proggie.

E6K's used to require firmware upgrades through an authorized dealer (via an additional firmware upgrade proggie), but I do have access to that, so those firmware upgrades are no problem for me.


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Old 04-30-04 | 08:55 PM
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Actually, a high-end engine management system is unnecesarry on P-port motors. If you check the Mazda Racing or RB Manual, they recommend more or less static ignition timing. Remember, for the longest time P-ports were run with VERY basic (Weber IDA) carburreators.
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Does the E11 control ignition and fuel?
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Originally posted by Dysfnctnl85
Does the E11 control ignition and fuel?
Yes.


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Old 05-05-04 | 01:43 PM
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Ted,

How's the E11V2 running on a 2 rotor? For some reason we cannot zero the timing right with the newest firmware from Haltech Aus and software version 1.34. The E11v1 was working better. Everything has been tripled check or more.
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Originally posted by Bucrx7
How's the E11V2 running on a 2 rotor? For some reason we cannot zero the timing right with the newest firmware from Haltech Aus and software version 1.34. The E11v1 was working better. Everything has been tripled check or more.
To be honest, I can't comment on that.

I do have two E11V1's I support regularly, and zero E11V2 experience.

I do have one E11V2 FD install coming up, but I do see hitting that project anytime soon.

Maybe you guys can contact Haltech AUS on some help?
They have been really helpful with any problems we've run into so far.


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Old 05-05-04 | 07:00 PM
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Haltech Aus was no help. The owner made 2 calls, the first time he instructed him to do something, then the second time he told him to do something completely different to try to zero in the timing. Still no luck. E6k works, E11v1 works, but E11v2 doesn't work. He's abandoning the haltech and going with the AEM. I'm still a fan of the E6k though.
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i have a few old option videos from japan that show some guys in 1st gens using p-port engines and stand alone ecu's instead of carburation. pretty nice stuff . gonna look for those tapes in the old closet . wife doesnt want them in the vcr/dvd stand . when i find them ill let you know.
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