Greddy E-manage - FINALLY!
08-30-02, 03:18 PM
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here it is, I have a 1990 Rx-7 Turbo II, I will be installing a new engine (street Ported) and i have a T04 turbo to be installed and i have some nice injectors 1660 cc to install i am told those are too big so i will try and find smaller ones. And i am looking to get 300-350 rwhp. And with the high levels of boost and the timming which will be needing adjusting. how well will this work? for my application?
09-18-02, 08:00 PM
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Is it true that you can only use max 820cc injectors inplace of stock. Also I read that if you have a limit switch type throttle position switch as in the 88 rx7 you will not able to alter airflow adjustment map?
Ian Skacel
88 10th AE
If that's the case is it really worth it. I'm getting close to purchase some fuel management.
Ian Skacel
88 10th AE
If that's the case is it really worth it. I'm getting close to purchase some fuel management.
09-21-02, 10:17 PM
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Can you use the E-Manage to oserve the stock ignition and fuel maps? Or do you have to download a custom map or something? I'm trying to decide between this, or the S-AFC. I'd much rather have the adjustability of the E-Manage, but it seems pretty difficult to tune.
09-21-02, 10:23 PM
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well it seems to me from what i am told and what i have read that as long as you have the pc cable and the software it is fairly simply to use and change things! and well i think that this is what i am going with because of the timming control and all the other little gadgets that it gives where the S-AFC is great but not for the kind of HP i am looking to get!
09-23-02, 03:37 PM
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I don't know if you can actually see/log ignition timing, but it will show injector pulsewidth with the injection harness.
The software is REALLY easy to use - people who have tuned one in have said it was really easy to tune in and use.
Dale
The software is REALLY easy to use - people who have tuned one in have said it was really easy to tune in and use.
Dale
09-25-02, 12:36 PM
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Yo,
Would the Emanage be a good choice for an NA Series 5 RX-7? I've read about the S-AFC doing good things, the Emanage must do better...I hope. *grin*
Any thoughts on using it for this application?
KS
1989 GTUs "The S-AFC has pretty moving lights!"
Would the Emanage be a good choice for an NA Series 5 RX-7? I've read about the S-AFC doing good things, the Emanage must do better...I hope. *grin*
Any thoughts on using it for this application?
KS
1989 GTUs "The S-AFC has pretty moving lights!"
09-25-02, 03:07 PM
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It would probably be overkill for an NA - the Super-AFC is really all you need for an NA. It definitely would work, but I don't know if you'd really get the extra benefit from it.
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09-26-02, 01:23 AM
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I'm all about it, because that's 1 less CLEARLY non-stock thing in my car. My car (Other than the paintjob) will look 100% stock, just looking at the outside, and in the windows.
That is until I can afford some panasport wheels.... and start throwing CF stuff on it! LoL
That is until I can afford some panasport wheels.... and start throwing CF stuff on it! LoL
09-29-02, 12:06 PM
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the afc is out dated the e manage is deffinetly better. and the emanage has built in FCD for us turbo guys. With the emanage you can do timing, it makes injector swaps easyer it allows you to switch to different mass air sensor. So with all these features, why would anyone get a afc???
09-30-02, 12:49 AM
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With a vote between HKS F-CON and GReddy E-Manage, which would you choose? because i really want the e-manage and i won't be doing anything much to my 87 turboII YET, i'm just trying to do simple things, i have intake and downpipe - no cats, and i'm overboosting, i know i'm leanning out and other stuff, i'm going to get a new fuel pump and some injectors most likly 720cc or 8xxcc (if there is any). I'm asking a vote because i can get F-CON for a cheap price, and yes i know GReddy can control igintion that's why i want e-manage. Later on i'm going bigger turbo but that's about a year from now, so help me out. im new to computers and everything -
-mike only 16 years of age..just like my 87T2 (build date 4/86)
-mike only 16 years of age..just like my 87T2 (build date 4/86)
09-30-02, 01:46 PM
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I used to have an FCON - they're really great computers, plug and play. The E-manage does require a good bit of tuning.
BTW, the E-manage's FCD won't work on an FC. It only works if your primary airflow input to the ECU is also how the ECU determines fuel cut. The FCD feature would work on a 3rd gen, though.
Dale
BTW, the E-manage's FCD won't work on an FC. It only works if your primary airflow input to the ECU is also how the ECU determines fuel cut. The FCD feature would work on a 3rd gen, though.
Dale
09-30-02, 03:34 PM
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that is the verry oposite to what i was told! i was told that the FCD feature would work on an FC but NOT on an FD because it was guaged but pressure and not boost! was i told wrong? and the fcon how high of boost will it control? does anybody know? and what size of aftermarket injectors?
10-01-02, 04:34 AM
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well that is the best quetion I have heard in my intire life. Because everyone I have ever talk to can't tell my if the FD has a Fuel cut. lightning in a world of thunder say they fuel cut according to RPM and boost and altutude and at my altutude it will fuel cut at 6000rpm and 12 psi. well I have taken it to 16 psi and had no problem so WHAT THE ****!!!!! and if this is true why does greddy not state in the book not to use the FCD in the FD are they ******* STUPID????????????? this would be a for sure blown motor for any one who does it. WE NEED to find out if this is true for us FD guys. and if so greddy sucks.
10-01-02, 09:55 AM
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The FD does have a fuel cut, but it's not a hard number like on the TII. It's based on many factors, like throttle position, MAP, intake air temp, etc.
The FD is a true MAP based system, and uses many factors to arrive at the volume of air coming into the motor. If the air volume that it computes exceeds a certain amount, that's when fuel cut happens. Again, it's a computation, so there's a whole world of factors that can influence the computation.
The FC sees fuel cut from the boost sensor - if the boost sensor's output exceeds a certain voltage, you get fuel cut. It's that simple. The FC uses the airflow meter to determine the quantity of intake air, BTW.
Anyhow, the E-manage modifies the MAP sensor on the FD, and the airflow meter on the FC. Since the MAP sensor is one of the primary inputs for the fuel cut on the FD, you can clamp the voltage the ECU sees from the E-manage to stop fuel cut. However, the E-manage modifies the airflow meter signal on the FC and doesn't touch the boost sensor, so you can't clamp voltage, so you still need a fuel cut defender.
You won't blow a motor hitting fuel cut, but you will if you're a dumbass and continually drive around banging on fuel cut. Fuel cut is typically VERY violent for a purpose - you're supposed to go, "whoa, my car is broken, I'm taking it to a mechanic" - that's Mazda's intention. If you hit fuel cut, just do something to fix it and you're golden.
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The FD is a true MAP based system, and uses many factors to arrive at the volume of air coming into the motor. If the air volume that it computes exceeds a certain amount, that's when fuel cut happens. Again, it's a computation, so there's a whole world of factors that can influence the computation.
The FC sees fuel cut from the boost sensor - if the boost sensor's output exceeds a certain voltage, you get fuel cut. It's that simple. The FC uses the airflow meter to determine the quantity of intake air, BTW.
Anyhow, the E-manage modifies the MAP sensor on the FD, and the airflow meter on the FC. Since the MAP sensor is one of the primary inputs for the fuel cut on the FD, you can clamp the voltage the ECU sees from the E-manage to stop fuel cut. However, the E-manage modifies the airflow meter signal on the FC and doesn't touch the boost sensor, so you can't clamp voltage, so you still need a fuel cut defender.
You won't blow a motor hitting fuel cut, but you will if you're a dumbass and continually drive around banging on fuel cut. Fuel cut is typically VERY violent for a purpose - you're supposed to go, "whoa, my car is broken, I'm taking it to a mechanic" - that's Mazda's intention. If you hit fuel cut, just do something to fix it and you're golden.
Dale
10-01-02, 09:09 PM
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ok, from playing around with the software it seems really cool, my question is, does the unit fill in all those zeros in the fuel and ign maps so that all i have to do is fine tune the data or do i have to fill in all those zero manually?
10-01-02, 10:01 PM
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Originally posted by amemiya
uuummm pressure is boost so what do you mean????
uuummm pressure is boost so what do you mean????
By boost i mean Boost pressure!
sorry for the confusion!
And what you are trying to tell me is that i still need a FCD to use the greddy e-manage on my TII because it won't help... but i thaught it entirely changed the feul map so that it would not do that?
10-02-02, 09:55 AM
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ok here is a problem I have found when importing maps I keep getting a "imput error" I don't know where it is coming from or why I have it?
Also the interaction light is always flashing even when the USB cable is not connected???
Also the interaction light is always flashing even when the USB cable is not connected???
10-02-02, 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by Ridge Tech
ok, from playing around with the software it seems really cool, my question is, does the unit fill in all those zeros in the fuel and ign maps so that all i have to do is fine tune the data or do i have to fill in all those zero manually?
ok, from playing around with the software it seems really cool, my question is, does the unit fill in all those zeros in the fuel and ign maps so that all i have to do is fine tune the data or do i have to fill in all those zero manually?
.The software does have interpolation features and map trace to help you out, too.
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10-02-02, 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by jreynish
And what you are trying to tell me is that i still need a FCD to use the greddy e-manage on my TII because it won't help... but i thaught it entirely changed the feul map so that it would not do that?
And what you are trying to tell me is that i still need a FCD to use the greddy e-manage on my TII because it won't help... but i thaught it entirely changed the feul map so that it would not do that?
You need an FCD to keep the stock ECU happy. The E-manage primarily modifies the airflow meter signal. If you outflow the stock airflow meter, you can add a boost sensor just for the E-manage so it knows how much boost you're running and you can tune your maps for that.
Dale