DaleClark

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Hey Guys -

Well, after reading up and thinking, I finally bit the bullet and bought a Greddy E-manage and the software. I'm VERY happy I did so - this is one slick unit!

Unfortunately, there is little to no information about this computer on the web. Greddy, being Greddy, is not forthcoming with ANY tech support or information - "see your authorized Greddy dealer". Yeah, whatever.

I'm VERY excited by the power, flexibility, and effectiveness this product has. So, with that in mind, I've started a Yahoo! Groups discussion list on the E-manage - go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emanage/ to sign up. I've scanned in and uploaded the manual for the software and the extra configuration pages that were in the Japanese manual and not in the US manual. There's also quite a few pictures, links, and other fun stuff.

Here's some basic information and question answering for the unit -

- I've got an '88 Turbo, so most of what I've been doing/looking at has been from that perspective. It does look like it will work, and rather well, on the 3rd gen as well. It can compensate for fuel cut on a stock FD ECU, and it can also use other MAP sensors that have a higher range than the stock FD MAP sensor. For the 2nd gen, you can easily change to different flap type airflow meters, such as using the '89-91 AFM on an '86-88 car. There are also Toyota flap type airflow meters that can be used, but I don't know if any of them are worth a flip .

- You *CAN* get the software/cable. I bought it from my local performance shop - got the E-manage for $299, and the software/cable for $109. They have said they will extend this offer to anyone - call and place an order. The shop is V&T Performance in Pensacola, Florida, and the number is 850-484-8511. Talk to James about it. If there is enough demand, they will try to get units to keep in stock. They get shipments every Friday, and I got mine in no time. They're good guys.

- I will have the manual up soon for the unit itself - I just gotta scan it in again, my first try came out too hard to read. Hopefully tonight I'll get a chance.

If you have any specific questions on the E-manage, I've learned a LOT about the unit and can answer many questions. I'm trying to build up a support base - I think it's a great product, and we're gonna need a support base since Greddy won't give us the time of day . The unit itself is first-rate in quality and construction, and the software is INCREDIBLE - VERY easy to use and learn.

I'll try to check this thread often for questions, but I don't get around to the various forums that much. If you have one, or are thinking of getting one, I'd recommend joining the Yahoo Groups list.

Thanks!
Dale

IAN

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I'm probably going to buy from this place that you mentioned. I will follow your installation very carefully.

Know all I need is a laptop

Thanks for the help

Ian Skacel
88 10th AE

DaleClark

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You can control quite a bit with the E-manage - main features are -

- Airflow meter signal adjustment by RPM and throttle position
- Ignition timing adjustment by RPM and airflow
- Add pulsewidth to the stock injectors by RPM and airflow
- Control 2 additional injectors by RPM and airflow

You can change to the '89-91 style airflow meter quite easily, too - you just tell the E-manage what your stock airflow meter is, and what airflow meter you will be using, and it does the calculation.

Unfortunately, it will only let you use other flap-type airflow meters - I'd LOVE to use a hotwire airflow meter, but it only lets you change to other meters of the same type.

It's also super easy to add larger injectors - you just tell it what size your stock injectors are and what size the upgraded injectors are. It automatically scales the fuel map for proper driveability.

The only real downside to the low cost is you do have to have a laptop to tune it, but used laptops are getting pretty cheap, so that's not too bad.

Jason

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If you guys are interested in the E-manage, let me know. I can get it at a great price.

Jason
www.rx7store.net

DaleClark

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Can you get the software as well, Jason? That's the real trick .

Thanks!

matt_ledbetter

dcfc3s,

Do you have yours installed?

-Matt

Wade

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We're excited about another piggyback computer? Hasn't everyone learned their lessons about the drawback of this method already?

Wade

j9fd3s

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yes but we are also aware of the drawbacks of a stand alone, and we are cheap. actually the e manage looks like it would work well with the 85 gsl-se/t2 swap im thinking about. i think i could do it without a bunch of wiring.

mike
20b fc

DaleClark

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I've done 2 Haltech installs, and I'm not yet ready to commit my car to that level of butchery . Don't get me wrong - standalones are great. But, I would like to see how far you can go with the stock ECU.

Really, every EFI solution is a compromise - it depends on your budget, level of expertise, level of commitment, and what you intend the car to do when it's all said and done.

Anyhow, at this time, my car is down in the midst of a HUGE buildup - I've got parts piled all over the house! But, one of the other guys here is planning on getting one for his '89 TII to replace his Super-AFC in the not too distant future - that will probably be the first local project/install. I'll probably post some data once that's done - he's got a wideband installed full-time in the car (which tuned the Super-AFC and 4 720cc injectors in GREAT) so we should be able to really wring it out.

Dale

TonyTurboII

No piggybacks for me, I like fresh wires and no hesitations.

j9fd3s

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i like it cause to do an engine swap i won't have to rewire the whole car

mike

DaleClark

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That is true with the FD - you still have hestitation problems and the like. The FC's ECU is a lot simpler input and output wise, and is probably a bit better suited for the E-manage.

Really, if I could, I'd buy a PowerFC for my FC. Unfortunately, they only have 'em for the '89-91 cars, and swapping to the later FI system is a LOT of work.

Anyhow, I think the E-manage is shaping up to be a powerful and inexpensive option for fuel management. Wasn't too many years ago that there were VERY few options for fuel management - the PowerFC didn't exist, the SuperAFC didn't exist, the Haltech was out of the reach of the do-it-yourselfer....this really beats rising rate FPR's and finger crossing .

Wade

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Yeah, there are uses even for piggybacks. They especially don't work well for FD's, though. Even devices like FCDs have applications, I'm sure the e-manage will fit in somewhere.

Wade

Ryde _Or_Die

So this thing can't control boost right?

DaleClark

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Correct, no boost control, which IMHO isn't a bad thing. It's like using a screwdriver as a hammer - yeah, you can do it, but it's meant to drive screws, not hammer nails.

Find the fuel computer that best suits your needs/goals/car/budget, then find the boost controller that does the same. Not to mention a large percentage of those looking to buy some form of engine management probably already have a boost controller.

Greg

Greddy is not like some other companies that HYPE the product up with false claims before releasing it. E manage should be good

Maxthe7man

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFT....

Yeah right.. Lets not forget they advertised it as available for a year before it actually got on the market, they had it on the back of Turbo magazine for as long as I could remember, but when you phoned Greddy, they knew nothing about it, and didn't know when it was coming, then when it finally came out, they tried to play hard to get with the software, only allowing their 'authorized' dealers to tune your car and install it, which in my case happened to be 1500 miles away, and was a Honda specialty shop, yeah sure they can tune a 13b on boost..Not...

I finally threw in the towel and bought an E6k...which I got in under 3 days with a manual in English...Max

phinsn98

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Dale Clark on the forum oh my god, I never thought I'd see the day. Hey well welcome...I'll be watching this post with interest with most of your ideas they are good. Not sure how this works yet because I have not gotten a complete answer on this. K2RD makes a plug & play harness for the Haltech. They say it takes 5 minutes to make the swap...I don't know. The one thing I am not sure of is they say you can't use some features. I have an 88 TII. I would like to know what features I can't use or have to adjust for. I am right there with you though. Not sure, I want to do a bunch of hacking to install a Haltech. I wish they made a S-AFC for the 87-88 crowd.

Late,
Dave

phinsn98

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One more thing to add. You can install the 89-91 MAF in an 88 with this????? HOW???

13BAce

This may be of some interest to you:

Ryde _Or_Die

Um, they do. Its the same one.

phinsn98

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Um, meant the Apexi Power FC...they don't make that for both generations of the FC. I wonder what it is about the Apexi Power FC that would stop it from working. Other then the MAF I wonder what the major differences there are in the wiring that would affect it. Probably to many to figure out.

Late

j9fd3s

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a couple of things:
1) the 89+ maf plugs are available new. k2rd has the part#
2) the 84-88 and the 89+ wiring is totally backwards from each other, you could a power fc in an 88 but it would be just as easy to wire in a haltech.
3) k2rd has 2 options for the haltech in 88, one is a plug n' play, the other is an adaptor for the dash harness and a new engine harness.
4) the k2rd plug in harness, does take 5 minutes to install.

for my car 85 gsl-se, im swapping a t2 motor into, i want it to pass smog in california, so i have to keep the distributor (the smog machine knows), so i'm going to use the e manage. the haltech offers me no more benifit than the emanage plus the tuning time will be shorter

mike